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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:58 am

Andrew wrote:
Jeffx wrote:Pringles has just resigned, according to a report on WFAN's Mike Francesca show.


I expected more jubilation. ;)


Believe me, I'm ecstatic Pringles is finally gone. Hiring him was one of the black marks on Donnie Walsh.

Now we'll see how these cats respond. I don't want to hear any more excuses.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:25 am

Jeffx wrote:Doc Rivers(if Boston lets him out of his contract).

Not happening.
Rivers is used to coaching losing (rebuilding) teams. He was with the Celtics when they were sucking and he'll still be with the Celtics when they will be sucking until his contract runs out.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:27 pm

Jeffx wrote:Now we'll see how these cats respond.


A 42 point win, though the biggest numbers came off the bench. Still, not a bad start for a new era. Do you think Woodson has a shot of being kept on at the end of the year?

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:25 pm

Before D'Antoni quit

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/sport ... nicks.html
The Knicks are not a unified team. On one side is Anthony. On the other is everyone else.

Anthony is breaking plays and demanding the ball in isolation, then snapping at teammates when they fail to get it to him. It happened late Monday, when Anthony called for the ball in the post, then smacked his hands in anger after Landry Fields went elsewhere. More often, Anthony saves the criticism for more private moments, on the bench or in the locker room.

The fact is, Anthony is not performing at a level that warrants more shots or self-indulgent play. He is shooting a career-low 40 percent from the field. The Knicks are 2-11 this season when he has 20 or more attempts.

For the past 10 games, the Knicks have been demonstrably worse when Anthony plays. With Anthony on the court, the Knicks are scoring at a rate of 97.7 points per 100 possessions. When he is on the bench, that rating soars to 109.8.

The contrast is just as sharp on defense: the Knicks give up 107.1 points per 100 possessions with Anthony on the court, 95.1 with Anthony on the bench. His personal differential, a minus-9.4 rating, is the worst on the team in that 10-game stretch.

Nor is Anthony fulfilling his presumed role as a clutch performer. He misfired repeatedly down the stretch in Chicago, adding to a string of fourth-quarter failures this season. He intentionally fouled Kyle Korver and sent him to the line on a key possession in the final minute, with the Knicks down by 4, after the players had been instructed to simply play defense.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:36 pm

Notice how even Stoudemire is even blaming Anthony. He's been just as awful as Anthony this season. But I guess a lot of it could be due to playing with Anthony. Let's not forget before the Melo trade, he was a MVP candidate.

I guess the advanced stats were right all this time, in that Anthony never really deserved a superstar tag. His production per minute were by far the worst among his other superstar peers and never reallyd produced too many wins. Makes me wonder how the Nuggets were so successful in a few seasons with him dominating the possession.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:55 pm

According to Stephen A. the Knicks days are numbered, if they don't get it together. This guy takes his job so seriously.

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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:53 am

Andrew wrote:A 42 point win, though the biggest numbers came off the bench. Still, not a bad start for a new era. Do you think Woodson has a shot of being kept on at the end of the year?


If he wins a playoff game(and Phil Jackson turns down Dolan's millions), Woodson has a great chance of being the coach next season. Remember, with Brain-Dead Dolan, it's not about winning championships. All he cares about is barely making the playoffs so he can jack up ticket prices and keep fleecing the fans for mediocrity. He's the biggest reason the Knicks have been a soap opera and a laughingstock the past ten years.

Carmelo wanted this - he wanted NYC, now he has to make it work. Both he & Amar'e better play on BOTH ends of the court, like Wade, Lebron, Rose & Kobe. No more excuses.

I wish the 'Linmaniacs' would STFU. They're not even real Knick fans, but bandwagoners. Pringles should never have been hired to begin with. He's a stubborn, overrated, gimmick 'coach'. I'm SO glad he's done - let him take his 'sissyball' back to the west coast.

It's not the first time a star player and his coach didn't see eye-to-eye. Magic, Bird, Jordan, Ewing - they pulled the same thing. Did they get the same hate Anthony's getting now?

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:56 am

atlwarrior wrote:According to Stephen A. the Knicks days are numbered, if they don't get it together. This guy takes his job so seriously.


Stephen A. is as annoying as his partner Shit Bayless. Sometimes Smith nails it, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:42 am

Well the Nets won't take over anything anytime soon. Especially since Deron Williams will opt out of his contract at the end of this season.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:19 pm

Jeffx wrote:
atlwarrior wrote:According to Stephen A. the Knicks days are numbered, if they don't get it together. This guy takes his job so seriously.


Stephen A. is as annoying as his partner Shit Bayless. Sometimes Smith nails it, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Couldn't agree more. Watching them going at it against each other is just laughable. How Skip and Stephen survived in that industry for so long just amazes me.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:24 pm

You think too highly of sports 'journalists'.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:40 pm

Maybe I do. But even fools gotta admit that Skip and Stephen often go over beyond imagination with their so called absurd analysis.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:21 am

Stephen A. Smith is the best. Great entertainment value & good for a laugh.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:32 pm

As far as talking about basketball is concerned, Stephen A. is a bit better in print than on TV in my opinion. When he's writing he makes some pretty good points, which he also does on TV at times but to me it seems he's trying a bit too hard with his on-screen persona which can become distracting and annoying. There is certainly entertainment value there but compared to someone like Charles Barkley, it still feels a bit forced.

Meanwhile, make it two respectable wins over Indiana in back to back nights, including the road victory today. 3-0 under Woodson so far.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:19 pm

The X wrote:Stephen A. Smith is the best. Great entertainment value & good for a laugh.

This.
That's what STEPHEN A. SMITH is good for and not as a source of basketball analysis. If you listen/watch (except read, I agree with Andrew that he seems normal when in print) STEPHEN A. SMITH for the basketball analysis then quite frankly I think you're a fool.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:23 pm

It's nice to finally see a Knick coach hold players accountable when they slip up on defense.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:12 pm

shadowgrin wrote:
The X wrote:Stephen A. Smith is the best. Great entertainment value & good for a laugh.

This.
That's what STEPHEN A. SMITH is good for and not as a source of basketball analysis. If you listen/watch (except read, I agree with Andrew that he seems normal when in print) STEPHEN A. SMITH for the basketball analysis then quite frankly I think you're a fool.

I don't think anybody watches/reads his stuff for meaningful basketball analysis, more just for entertainment value. I obviously prefer Chuck like everybody else, but at times I like Stephen A's brute honesty (e.g. the Kwame Brown rant is an all-time favourite).

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:14 am

Most of times I find them more annoying than entertaining. One of them would have sufficed for entertainment purpose but watching him and Skip together is a pure joke. Bad... real bad.

Grats to the Knicks for pulling a win on the road against a quality team in Pacers. Maybe there's a hope to be found after all these mess. Melo looked selfless. (Y)

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:52 am

You know there's something terribly wrong when Stephen A. Smith is the one that makes sense compared to Skip Bayless when they are together. It's that bad.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:05 pm

Nice win against the Raptors. Good games by STAT, Chandler and Lin.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:24 am

I know Jeffx would appreciate this news...

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... lay_Harder

It's been a while since I've seen a Knick coach hold players accountable for their poor play. It's amazing how this team is playing under Woodson, and how well they are playing against Philadelphia right now. If the Knicks can't get Phil Jackson, which as of right now is just a dream, I don't mind Woodson coaching this team.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:55 am

Lol. The Knicks can play defense. Watching the game too and the Knicks are pretty good.

EDIT: Pretty fun game. The rumor that Amare lost hop or explosiveness sorta sounds true. What used to be a dunk now seems to be a lay up now. But he's playing at high level today.

EDIT: Lin needs to teach Lebawn how to clutch. Awful shooting night for him but the Knicks were simply better with him on the court. And he's an underrated defender. Not that he can outpower or do much to abuse but he never loses his man and reads the other team's offense pretty well. But true hero of tonight's game was Amare. He was just amazing hitting all kinds of shots. Too bad for Elton Brand though. He was superb as well in a losing effort.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:27 pm

NovU wrote:Lin...he never loses his man and reads the other team's offense pretty well.

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Re: The Knicks Thread....

Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:45 pm

I meant his level of alertness on his man. He might not be able to stay with quicker guards but he knows where to be in most cases when his man is off the ball, and rarely lets his man out of the sight. At least from today's observation.

Did any Knicks fans notice how hard Melo tried despite his poor numbers? Despite the criticism and being center of blame ordeal that's been going on, he looked really selfless most of times. Of course, he had his I-Just-Shoot moments but the way he was moving and playing really was surprising actually. He was clearly trying to fit in and do things he's never done. For instance, he was really being physical to position himself for possible rebounds off the free throws. Those little things of him trying hard add up to team morale. And that's the type of plays that earn people's respect and make people root for him.

Re: The Knicks Thread....

Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:38 pm

As Clyde would say, Knicks played with grit. A tough, grind-it-out win. Raptors, Pistons & a crucial game against the Bucks Monday night.
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