Chicago Bulls Thread

[Andrew]

I was about to suggest Knight or Price from the Jazz, but it appears they're free agents anyway. Not that they're players I'd normally want to see Hinrich traded for but they would've been somewhere between Rose and Pargo to replace Hinrich on the bench and Hinrich would be bringing in Boozer in return.

In any event I agree with you, if Hinrich does get traded for Boozer the Bulls will need to bring in a point guard who can give them some decent minutes off the bench. Now that we've broached the reality of a Rose/Pargo tandem at point guard in the event Hinrich is traded, I'm not particularly thrilled about the latter half of that duo, the deal would certainly have to be underscored by the acquisition or signing of a solid veteran point.

[Calamaro]

asking Pargo to become anything more then a 4th guard is a recipe for disaster

Hey, last time he played in the NBA (with the hornets) he did a nice job coming off the bench and hitting some shots, he was an Eddie House type of player. I know, he is one year older now, but, still, I would give him a chance
I'm sure he can score.

[Andrew]

That's the thing. When the shots are falling, he's the spark plug that can help a team cut into a lead. When he cools off, he's a black hole and a liability.

[Lamrock]

Great bench player. Almost shot the Hornets back into that elimination game in 2008 versus the Spurs. He's not Gordon, but he's an upgrade over Anthony Roberson and Lindsey Hunter

[Andrew]

I remember that, he also had a pretty wild sequence for the Bulls in the 2005 Playoffs that was upstaged by a Gilbert Arenas buzzer beater. I must admit I couldn't say that I'd prefer Roberson or Hunter.

[air gordon]

Hey, last time he played in the NBA (with the hornets) he did a nice job coming off the bench and hitting some shots, he was an Eddie House type of player. I know, he is one year older now, but, still, I would give him a chance
I'm sure he can score.

Great bench player. Almost shot the Hornets back into that elimination game in 2008 versus the Spurs. He's not Gordon, but he's an upgrade over Anthony Roberson and Lindsey Hunter

from the sounds of it, seems like Pax pulled off a steal by signing Pargo

i'll be honest and say the bulls do need 3pt shooting. they may end up being last in 3pters next year. only Hinrich & Salmons are their legit threats. Brad miller somewhat and maybe Rose one day.

everyone remembers Pargo vs the Wiz, Pargo vs the Spurs.

how about his career fg% is 39! career 3pt% is 36.5%
his ts% and efg% are easily bested by Eddie House
better then Roberson/hunter? big deeeeeeeaaaaaalllll

so when the bulls signed Lindsey Hunter/Pargo, they went in the lux tax. as a result the bulls have waived/bought out Tim Thomas
http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/thomas_090714.html

1 less expiring contract to add in a Boozer trade

[Stress Fracture]

Pargo can definetley be a firepower for the Bulls. You really want to get Boozer,right?

[SHAQ33]

The Bulls have the best logo in the NBA

[Valor]

Pargo can definetley be a firepower for the Bulls. You really want to get Boozer,right?

we need low post scoring and Boozer certainly provides that
i am still pissed at them letting go Gordon, and signs Pargo to replace him but on a bright side, there may be a chance that they are freeing up cap + the starting 2 guard position for Wade to come home in 2010 (i know, unlikely, but hey, it's better then thinking the negatives of BG leaving....)

[Stress Fracture]

Boozer expects himself to be traded. So Paxson should waste no time to acquire him.

[Andrew]

i am still pissed at them letting go Gordon, and signs Pargo to replace him but on a bright side, there may be a chance that they are freeing up cap + the starting 2 guard position for Wade to come home in 2010 (i know, unlikely, but hey, it's better then thinking the negatives of BG leaving....)

The thought crossed my mind too, but to call it wishful thinking would be an understatement.

[SHAQ33]

Wade would look awesome in a Bulls jersey, he would flash across the screen and dunk frequently like that other guy. I'm not a Bulls fan but it would be great for the NBA to have Wade in Chicago, frankly any superstar in Chicago

[Andrew]

I certainly wouldn't be against it.

[SHAQ33]

Wade has won the Championship in Miami so I get the impression he will leave them for a more interesting venture. New York or Chicago, make it happen. Notice how long both those franchises have gone without a superstar, unless you count Marbury as a superstar. I thought big markets were supposed to get big players. If I was an NBA superstar I'd jump at the chance to play for both them markets, even if it meant leaving a stable situation. Although I must admit, if I were LeBron I'd stay in Cleveland until they won a Championship and then probably stay and build a 3-peat (or leave if things don't continue to flourish after the first Championship). But in Wade's situation, there is nothing to stay in Miami for (unless they upgrade the supporting cast freakishly and become elite, which they won't). Madison Square Garden and The United Center are the best 2 courts in the world

[Andrew]

He's in a promising situation in Miami, too. From his recent remarks it seems he wants to be competing for more championships and soon, which might indicate that he's strongly considering leaving the Heat but also rules out the Bulls and Knicks.

[SHAQ33]

I guess thats why these big markets don't lure the superstars, because superstars are all about winning first

[Andrew]

Can't fault them for that.

[Valor]

Madison Square Garden and The United Center are the best 2 courts in the world

Correction!

THE UNITED CENTER IS THE BEST STADIUM IN THE WORLD!

[SHAQ33]

It is a tough call. At first I think I'd rather play at Madison Square Garden. But then I think "Michael Jordan played in The United Center an awful lot" so that would be a big honor to play where he called his home. I guess for me personally (as an NBA player) I'd say The United Center, but as a spectator I like seeing Madison Square Garden more and would like to see a superstar in that arena the most

[air gordon]

IMO the old chicago stadium trumps the united center... easily. the "mad house on madison" had that old highschool/"pit" feel where the seats were right on top of court/very steep. the place felt it was literally rocking back in the day.

the united center's acoustics seem off and seems just way too open. nowadays with the marketing department trying to make it a family experience- the game experience has changed. the speaker's are on full blast so we can here tired/played out songs from the 90's. normally the loudest cheers come for the dunkin donuts race or when the team is trying hit 100pts (free big macs if that happens)

signs Pargo to replace him

pargo isn't Gordon's replacement. it's John Salmons. if Pargo is getting Gordon-type minutes, Hinrich & Salmons must be out with injury

[Andrew]

If Pargo is getting Gordon-type minutes, Vinny Del Negro will soon be out of a job.

[George7]

Wade might be interested ,because chicago can provide him the team (if Bulls will be built with Wade as a base) to do sth good in the playoffs\
(and why not win a championship!)

[Andrew]

I don't think they'll be any closer to winning a championship - even with Wade - within the next twelve months. Certainly no closer than the Heat and if they can't be more appealing than Miami, they're not getting him. Again, I'd love to see it happen but I just can't be that optimistic, not when Wade is talking about wanting to compete for championships right now.

[The X]

Thought you Bulls fans would be interested in a bit of a Q&A with Jerry Reinsdorf

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketba ... 21.article

A few excerpts from the article:

Question: What do you think of Ben Gordon's signing as a free agent with the Detroit Pistons?

Answer: Actually, we made a decision a year ago not to commit long term to Ben. We tried, and he turned it down. Then, near the end, [now GM] Gar Forman and John [Paxson] decided it probably wasn't a good idea to make a long-term decision. We wanted to see what other options might develop. So we withdrew the offer [six years, $54 million] we had on the table. Ben ultimately said he would take it, but it was too late.

Now, fast forward to the end of the year, we have [John] Salmons and we have a hell of a three-guard rotation with [Kirk] Hinrich and Derrick [Rose]. Ben wasn't going to get a whole lot of playing time. [It] was going to be diminished. So Ben really no longer fit. Ben's a terrific player. But Ben needs minutes. He would not have been happy with the minutes he was going to get.

From what he is saying, sounds like they're planning on keeping Hinrich. Andrew, you'll be happy to see that there is no mention of Jannero Pargo

Q: What about letting Gordon go and getting nothing in return given he was the third overall pick in the 2004 draft?

A: You can't just look at a player by himself. You've got to look at what his departure enables you to do in other ways. You do have to have [salary] cap flexibility in this league. It's not like baseball where, if you have the money, you can do whatever you want. The cap really constrains you. So you're constantly looking at your roster to see maybe two or three years out.

I wonder whom the benefactor of the cap space will be and if the Bulls get desperate again like they did when they threw money at Ron Mercer.

Q: The Bulls will have some $25 million in salary-cap room projected to spend on the star-studded 2010 free-agent class. After spending $60 million on free agent Ben Wallace with little to show for it, are you leery of courting another big-money player?

A: Yes. But the only way you can avoid making a mistake is not to make a decision. Even Jerry West has made mistakes, and he's probably the best in the business. Even [Red] Auerbach made mistakes. Was Ben Wallace a mistake? Probably. Because what we didn't think about is Ben needs to play alongside somebody who can score a lot of points. But I don't think it's about Ben Wallace that makes us be careful. It's the thought that when you make a mistake, you own that mistake. So we've got to be careful.

So they didn't think the Ben Wallace was a one-dimensional player?!?

Q: There's a perception the Bulls move slowly when it comes to big-name trades. The perception is you missed on Pau Gasol, on Kevin Garnett. What's your response?

A: I don't think we move too slowly. Gasol, we didn't move slowly, we said, 'No.' We were prepared to give [Memphis] players. What they wanted to do was to basically dump stuff on us and we'd be immobilized; we wouldn't have been able to improve our team. Gasol made sense for the Lakers because he is their third-best player, probably. He would have been, at that time, our best player. It would have been a wrong role for him. John and Gar decided they didn't want Gasol under those circumstances, where he would have been the last piece and we would have been immobilized because of the [salary] cap.

Strangely enough he didn't mention Kevin Garnett, only Pau Gasol. Probably a little harsh to call him the Laker's third-best player.


Am keen to hear a few Bulls' fans impressions or is it just dribble?

[Valor]

eh..no mention of their mistake of giving Luol Deng that fat contract, and the fact that if it wasn't for that, BG would have been a perfect fit
Ben Wallace doesn't deserve 60 million ANYWHERE, so he should just admit that they weren't using their brains and made a damn mistake.
He didn't mention KG cause he had no excuses for that missed opportunity

What they wanted to do was to basically dump stuff on us and we'd be immobilized

they immobilized themselves with that Deng contract

A healthy Luol is going to become an All-Star

doubt it, maybe in his contract year he might be close

We will be better because Luol [Deng] will be back.

Just trade deng away for Boozer, PLEASE

damn, i wish they can just face it like a man and admit their damn mistakes that is costing the franchise's chances to become good again