2016 NBA Champions:Cleveland Cavaliers

[Sauru]

i like how everyone keeps talking about love poor shooting when no one really shot well. love played big for them in the role he was given. he was not meant to go out and drop 30. it was clear he had issues scoring on golden state so he did what he should have been doing the entire series. now i am not saying he won them the game or anything crazy like that but he played a good game and everyone seems to be glossing over it because he shot 3-9.

[atlwarrior]

Nah you just act like a salty ass ex that throws shade every time she hears about her ex-bf and you're faking like you weren't deep throating LeBron in Miami. Your bitchy ways irritate me. Stop acting like a girl plz! First off, you're over exaggerating their performances Tristan had a sub par performance compared to his other games in the series, Love had a better performance than his previous 2 games IN THE FINALS but he still didn't do what he was supposed to be out there for which is knock down open shots and score, he still allowed Draymond Green to have his way and couldn't even post up Harrison Barnes. I just don't understand how a player that was once considered an elite PF can get a pass for averaging single digits in the finals. I've heard of averaging 2 pts less than your regular season average BUT GOOD LORD 8 POINTS! THAT IS SOME BS AND I KNOW FOR A FACT OTHER PLAYERS WOULD GET ALOT OF SHIT FOR HAVING SHITTY PERFORMANCES LIKE THAT. I mean Bosh got a lot of shit for averaging 14 ppg when LeBron was in Miami but people continue to give Love the benefit of the doubt.

It was an ugly shooting night for LBJ but he still scored 27 pts and got a triple double with 3 blks and 2 stls. Irving was really the only player that was great outside of LeBron. Everybody else was subpar & JR was average.

[NovU]

I actually dont care what you think about me. But thx for sharing. Sharing is caring, you care so much about me, it's neat.

But on actual topic, you are simply dead wrong. For instance, when a player scores 30 ppg on below league average efficiency, that player is not really helping the team win. In game 7, LBJ ortg was disastrous. Whether or not by design, that put pressure on his teammates to step up, in which they did. Like I said, he was great overall for the Finals but saying he was great for game 7 is saying you are a homo for LBJ. I hope you come to your senses kid.

[mp3]

Regarding JR I always said he could have a legit career if he just played in a city with no real nightlife, he could be next year's mvp if he moved to Indiana lol

[skoadam]

Regarding JR I always said he could have a legit career if he just played in a city with no real nightlife, he could be next year's mvp if he moved to Indiana lol

imo he is nobrainer and i hope your post was sarcastic
edit: haha now i see it was lol

[air gordon]

it was clear he had issues scoring on golden state so he did what he should have been doing the entire series. now i am not saying he won them the game or anything crazy like that but he played a good game and everyone seems to be glossing over it because he shot 3-9.

I agree. He did enough to the point you couldn't blame him if they lost. He hit that jump hook early and GSW started to double him in the post. And it was him guarding curry on GSW's key possession

[atlwarrior]

I actually dont care what you think about me. But thx for sharing. Sharing is caring, you care so much about me, it's neat.

But on actual topic, you are simply dead wrong. For instance, when a player scores 30 ppg on below league average efficiency, that player is not really helping the team win. In game 7, LBJ ortg was disastrous. Whether or not by design, that put pressure on his teammates to step up, in which they did. Like I said, he was great overall for the Finals but saying he was great for game 7 is saying you are a homo for LBJ. I hope you come to your senses kid.

His ortg actually wasn't that bad you're just on his dick AGAIN. Guess you like riding them explains why you throw shade like a petty female. His performance was not up to LeBron's standards but he still made clutch defensive plays which cancels out his struggles on offense. He had a triple double in a crucial game 7 when only 2 of his teammates scored in double digits. For most other players, this would be considered a great game. He basically led his team in every category besides rebounds because Kevin Love did decide to at least do that but he still had to grab 11 of those. You still haven't explained how Thompson and Love had great games when they did not fulfill their roles at all. Thompson didn't get rebounds and Love didn't at least score in double digits AGAIN. They barely did enough to get the win. GREAT GAMES? HELL NO.

Edit: Am i going to credit Love for doing what he should be doing if he's not contributing offensively? NO. WHY? Because the PF on the other team had 32/15/9... If Green had the same game Love had, we'll be blaming the GS loss on him instead of Curry. Maybe if he put up at least 14-16 pts I'll say Love had a great game. And thats not even asking much from an "Elite Pf"

[NovU]

You are a garbage, arent you. You are being pretentious and ignorant here. I gave u a way out and u r still being silly here. LBJ ortg was garbage for game 7, at least know wut it is b4 u say stupid things to look bad. Other forum members said enuf about Love, I dont need to add more. Lastly, dont pretend I owe u anything, I dont. I think I gave u enuf of my attention here. Dick and riding, who are you again and why this stupid blatant attack on fellow long term forum member? At least those that I associate in name callings have history with me but you r being odd and personal.

Actually I dont care. Pretend I exist not. Carry on.

[atlwarrior]

I've been here longer than you. Probably have contributed more to this site than you as well. I pop up once in a blue moon if I'm thinking about releasing a patch or roster for older basketball games & been here long enough to know you used to act like LeBron's little minion because you were happy he was bringing championships to Miami. You just sit here & bitch about him now every opportunity you get like you're obsessed. Don't try to act like your're brand new all of a sudden. You're like cancer to this site. You're annoying but over time people just learned to live with you because you're not going anywhere. Don't get it twisted. Don't worry I will carry on like you do not exist. I'm sure people would not be losing sleep if you disappeared all of a sudden.

[ThePointForward]

Boy, that escalated quickly.

[mp3]

Knock it off guys or Corymach7 gets your place.

[[Q]]

So where does lebrons legacy stand now? He's been able to win on two completely different teams and he pretty much did all the work himself. Game 6 he willed them to victory with 18 straight points down the stretch when kyrie looked lost. He got that chase down block on a sure 2 on 1 layup at the end of game 7. His numbers were just unreal. I think it would be cool if he went to another team and won with them

[atlwarrior]

LeBron needs to sit his ass down and stay with one team. They have something good in Cleveland. They just need to work with Love this summer and figure out a way to get him back to top form like in Minnesota or Trade him. Also get a better, younger, affordable 2 way player to replace Richard Jefferson who's retiring.

[Andrew]

Mike & Mike discuss LeBron: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=16389305&ex_cid=espnfb

Like I said before, he has to be considered one of the all-time greats. He already was (or should've been) considered that heading into this season, but leading a team back from 3-1 down in the NBA Finals while posting the numbers he did is a huge boost to his legacy. It changed a lot of people's tune on a dime, and for good reason.

I think some of his past disappearances in big games will be held against him, and that's only fair. As far as what he adds to his legacy moving forward, there's two ways of looking at it. He could do what some of the others in the upper pantheon of all-time greats have done, and lead a team to multiple titles. I know he's technically already done that by winning back-to-back in Miami, but I mean a few more with the one team; players like MJ, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Russell, and Duncan all have at least three rings with one team. Their teams were also at least NBA Finalists or at least relevant/legitimate contenders for years on top of that. To walk the same path to greatness in his legacy, LeBron can't move around too much from this point on, and certainly not this offseason.

On the other hand, the ability to go anywhere and make them an instant contender, and indeed a champion in short order, would also speak volumes about LeBron as a player, and carve out a different legacy that's impressive in its own right. It's different to the greats who spent all or at least most of their careers with one team, but then LeBron's journey in the NBA has already been somewhat unorthodox in comparison to them. I've seen people suggest that he can leave now that he's delivered on his promise, and I kind of see that. Cavs fans would no doubt be upset, but it might not sting as much as The Decision because he came home, and delivered a championship within two seasons. There'd still be some resentment that he's stripping the team of its chance to compete for years though, and unless he can immediately win a title elsewhere, his legacy would probably take a bit of a hit.

I'd personally like him to stay in Cleveland. There's more that he can achieve and prove there, yet at the same time, some of the pressure is off. As long as the Cavs remain in the thick of the hunt and have a legitimate chance at winning the championship, you can't fault him for coming up short every now and again; not after three championships, six straight Finals appearances, and a comeback from being down 3-1 to a defending champion who won 73 regular season games. Larry Bird didn't ever win back to back, nor did Tim Duncan; furthermore, Bird didn't win a title in his final six seasons in the league, and didn't make a Finals appearance in his last five. Magic and Kareem suffered back-to-back losses in the NBA Finals. Of all the players on the shortlist for "Greatest of All-Time", only MJ is undefeated in the Finals, and it took him a little while to get there, suffering some tough losses along the way. As long as the Cavs remain contenders, LeBron's legacy can hold its own in Cleveland.

[benji]

Ice cold.

rip in peace the curry family

[Andrew]

Ouch.

[NovU]

LBJ is obviously likely to stay. But it would be cool if he decided to do something crazy like going to the Lakers or Spurs. We also get to see if his new born dick riders follow or not. Lol

[PeacemanNOT]

Rip NovU

[air gordon]

LeBron needs to sit his ass down and stay with one team. They have something good in Cleveland. They just need to work with Love this summer and figure out a way to get him back to top form like in Minnesota or Trade him. Also get a better, younger, affordable 2 way player to replace Richard Jefferson who's retiring.

Agree with this. Not every team has versatile defenders like GSW. Love could be utilized better though is it worth trying as it seems ljames best position is at the 4? Is Love worth the contract he is on if he is a matchup dependent player? A young 2way player would be costly and may be the wiser investment

Appreciate the well thought out post about ljames and legacy, andrew. Legacy debate I'll leave to you sophisticates

[zz21]

Forget Lebwuan. Lets talk about the true hero of this series.

[NovU]

Game 7 Love saved his ass for now. But idea of trading him will always arise whenever Cavs hit the low point. One thing has to be said tho, playoffs consists of 4 round and he was good in 3 out of 4.

Rip NovU

One thing I learned over the years is that some wars are meaningless and better to be left avoided. What this discussion forum needs is more variety of involvement and topics. I am fine with my role of villain and how others perceive me matters little to me. For instance, some probably knew I don't really dislike LBJ that much and my messages of lbj criticism were valid hence the needs being there to explore for discussion. Ofc some would take things on personal level and won't quit crying about me being ex, that's fine, we can also have fun with it like Sauru, jackal,(& grin, where he at now) and I do it to each other on regular basis. At the end of the day, it's all harmless and fun. Let the anti NovU Activist community grow too!

[Andrew]

For what it's worth: https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/stat ... 8016854016

BREAKING: LeBron James says he’ll return to Cavaliers to defend title in 2016-17 NBA season, per @clevelanddotcom

Nothing's set in stone until he's signed on the dotted line, obviously, but it's not too surprising to read that. As I said before, the pressure is off of him somewhat in Cleveland now. Sure, there's pressure to defend the title, but he delivered a championship within two seasons of returning. They'll remain relevant and in the thick of the hunt as the defending champs, and on top of everything else he's going to get paid handsomely, while playing close to home. His legacy is in good shape, and it's a good situation for him to be in.

[[Q]]

LeBron needs to sit his ass down and stay with one team. They have something good in Cleveland. They just need to work with Love this summer and figure out a way to get him back to top form like in Minnesota or Trade him. Also get a better, younger, affordable 2 way player to replace Richard Jefferson who's retiring.

The difference between winning and losing game 7 could've earned Love a year or two and $20 million total on his next contract

http://variety.com/2015/dirt/real-estalker/lebron-james-buys-brentwood-manse-1201635639/
Lebron buys a home in Brentwood 6 months ago.
http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/06/22/lebron-james-la-lakers-kids-brentwood-school-leaving-cleveland/
Lebron enrolls kids in school in Brentwood.

I mean, it's entirely possible they live in LA for the whole season, but it would be tough for him flying back and forth to cleveland for those home games.
To me, it would mean more if he won with yet another team. He's already carried 2 different Cleveland teams to the Finals, won one, and went to the Finals and won with Miami (again, going to 6 straight Finals). If he pulled the Lakers out of the abyss, there would be no denying his greatness even for his haters. The easy road for winners would be to ride the good thing but to start over with a new team is much more difficult.

[Andrew]

If he really wants to build his legacy, and prove he's not in the shadow of Michael Jordan, he'll go to the Bulls and make them champions again. Winning in the city where MJ won six titles; what better way to truly solidify his legacy?

In all seriousness though, it sounds like he's staying in Cleveland. That Hollywood Life article was just sloppy. Perhaps they should just stick to Kardashian gossip.

[zz21]

LeBron needs to sit his ass down and stay with one team. They have something good in Cleveland. They just need to work with Love this summer and figure out a way to get him back to top form like in Minnesota or Trade him. Also get a better, younger, affordable 2 way player to replace Richard Jefferson who's retiring.

Some nonsense about LeBron buying a summer home and a hollywood site saying he put his kids in an LA school.