Andrew Wiggins To Be Named NBA Rookie Of The Year

I think Tmac with a hint of Durant is where he is heading if he works hard.

it's an insult to mention his name in a same sentence with Wiggin's Canadian potential.

What does that even mean?

Gay isn't an efficient player and will probably never be unless he becomes a 15 mpg guy who suddenly has good shot selection. He'll probably become a 15 mpg guy who puts up wild shots and whose team goes to him when they have a broken play.

Wiggins is just a rookie. Rookie Wiggins had similarities with Rookie Gay. He was inefficient this year but could develop in so many areas. His potential is great.

I'm more interested to see Parker, Randle and the Twitter guy.

All I hear is Gay's inefficiency and Wiggin's inefficiency, that's where similarity ends. You could fit in half the league in that category.


Who da hell cares what you're interested in btw: Parker/Randle/Twitter. Sometimes I have trouble understanding you, why you'd do this and be defensive so much. I am not really interested in this discussion either anyway. This gone way beyond for something of non significance and small. Gay that you may be, so be it, I say Igg/Tmac better. It should have ended there.

I'm not even going to try and go in about how unnecessary your was.

Everyone can state their opinion in the forum. That's the whole point of the forum.

Fair enough.

But this unnecessary event will occur again if misunderstanding keeps popping up. I felt you came directly at me, making a weak point while throwing me into the ocean. Perhaps you needed to be more convincing. Or more humble "Gay is better comp imo" approach would have avoided this entire nonsense.

Don't take things personal.

Just because I disagree with someone(I didn't disagree for the sake of disagreeing as I brought my point of view) doesn't mean I am coming at you.

Just means I have a different opinion. I'm not into personal shots anymore.

Wow. This really escalated quickly.

Wow. This really escalated quickly.

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Rules of Thumb:
-Unless rookies are spectacularly bad in their first season, receive minutes AND are 21+ they're unlikely to not at least be a rotation player. Unless of course their dad is the coach.
-If they're 23 or older, they're done, they won't be improving significantly.
-If they're 20 or younger, they are eight plus years from the start of their prime.
-The second year is more important, if they don't cut their turnovers that's a bad sign, if there's no improvements at all across the board that's a bad sign, if they get worse that's a horrible sign.
-Third year, age is really important here, if they're 24-25 or older, we're done, nothing more to discuss. If they're still 21-22, they have a couple more years ideally with another team to yet make a second leap.

Rookie years basically are setting the baseline. Players who have GREAT rookie seasons like Davis, Griffin, Paul, etc. are immediately establishing that they'll likely be historic all-time greats.

Tyreke Evans is an interesting case because he had a pretty good rookie season and he's continued to be a pretty good player, his rookie season scoring was inflated by various situations including the fact that he got to the line like mad. So people expected big leaps even though he couldn't shoot. It'd be interesting to see if the next New Orleans coach stops worrying about his role, accepts him for what he is and builds the rest of the non-Davis roster around him. He thrived with Jrue Holiday out and the ball in his hands as a point forward-guard as last season came down the stretch. The team was 18-19 when Holiday left the starting lineup and Evans took over the role, his assists and efficiency shot up and the team went 27-18. He played terribly in the playoffs though. Though most everyone not named Anthony Davis did as Monty Williams didn't seem to know his best lineups especially when they blew that lead. Oh, and that team should have never been playing at the 27th ranked pace. Especially with that roster.

Regarding Wiggins, Embiid should be the actual best player in this class and Jabari Parker still looks like a better NBA talent, but force-feeding Wiggins was ideal and his efficiency as a rookie on a terrible team doesn't say too much. As for Durant and Wall, they had dominating college careers and showed those traits in their first seasons. Wiggins didn't exactly live up to the hype when he hit Kansas.

That said...I had him rated as Al Thornton with actual defense coming into the league and his rookie numbers didn't exactly dispel that comparison.

I can't believe Noah Vonleh got so little run, he was always a very very intriguing prospect in the draft. He didn't even get playing time in the D-League before Charlotte brought him back to stash him on the end of the bench.

If the 2014 Draft improves in one year like the 2013 Draft....