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Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:43 pm

This one game performance is in-line with his potential displayed from shitty OKC days as a starter. There'll be plenty of this to come, don't worry.

It's just better throwing lobs to Monroe/Drum than to anvil handed Perkins/Adams. Tayshaun is kinda bummer but at least he doesn't demand ball. Pope is aite too, he doesn't interfere ball handler's space. Overall, this build is just gold for able PGs. Allowed Jenny and Augoat to have their career year. Why not Reggie? This is so obvious I don't know why you can't see this.

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:00 pm

Augustin had his career 'year' in Chicago though.

I'm sure Reggie will do well in Detroit but I don't think he'll become the superstar you preach him to be.
He's just having his Linsanity type moment.

Even Jameer Nelson looked like an all-star when he played for SVG in 2009 Magic but he's not, same way Reggie Jackson is not a superstar.

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:42 pm

Kid me not, is this some sort of a joke? benji first showcases how inferior Reggie is to Jenny, you take it few miles further and have him in Augustin territory, then now you have audacity to claim that I called him a superstar? LeL



I already stated Reggie's probably not anything special. It should be a fact by now among regulars in this forum that Jenny is just an above average PG(despite hotness for short stint, he came down to earth before getting injured, not to mention going back and forth SVG's doghouse). How is my statement saying that Reggie could possibly be an upgrade over Jenny is equivalent to calling him a superstar. Being simply better than an above average player does not warrant Reggie a 'special' or 'superstar' label.



PGs go deep in this league as we already know. Very top tier PGs include untouchables like Westbrew, CP3, Curry, then there's next tier with likes of Lillard, Lowry, so on. Then there's next with Wall and such. It'd be crazy to make claims that Reggie belongs to any of that tier at this stage. His competition is Jenny for fucks sake.

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:51 pm

NovU wrote:While I think Kemba is overpaid but still, it's hard to believe Reggie rejected such a great deal. But looking at Reggie's per 36 stats, one probably can argue he's potentially better than Kemba.

That kind of contract makes you think though. Both James Harden and Westbrook are only 4 mil more expensive than Kemba the average joe and possibly Reggie. It's worth paying for superstars.


Based on your posts about Jennings and Kemba:

Average (Kemba) < Above average (Jennings) < all-star (Reggie Jackson?) < superstar (Darrick Martin)

Not a superstar then, but do you honestly think Reggie Jackson is an all-star caliber player instead of being another Jameer Nelson?

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:21 pm

You need to understand this is exactly the reason why you are nothing more than a troll. Perhaps quit assuming things to your liking. Why is being better than those two warrants Reggie a allstar status? That is your logic, not mine.

Curry
Paul
Westbrook
Lawson
Wall
Teague
Lillard
Conley
Hill
Collison
Lowry
Rondo
Knight
Jrue
Parker
Dragic
Isaiah
Rubio
Ellis
Irving

You can argue Kemba and Jenny are better than handful above. But gap between higher tier PGs and these two is evident.

I am done with this. You are resorting to trolling again, taking things out of context and putting word into mouth.

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:28 pm

That's why I placed a question mark on Reggie.

I only assume based on what's there and you said Jackson is better than an above average PG.

Then from your very own, where would you classify Reggie's production if it's better than above average player/starter like Jennings but not better than all-star like Wall?

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:50 pm

Save yourself further embarrassment please. Even benji can't save you now.

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:01 pm

That's why I'm asking you to tell us on where you would classify Reggie's production based on your very own words in comparison to average Kemba and above average Jennings.



Seriously? Victim card again?

'Look I can throw words just because I can without proving any of my point! Please don't question me else I will call you a troll for I am always a victim ' :cry: ' :roll:

lol you're that in love with benji that you even mention him when he's not even part of the current discussion, aaawww how sweet. :oops:

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:11 pm

Rather you need come back with an argument of your own. You have none right now. I don't have time to educate monkeys.

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:28 pm

I already said that he will do well in Detroit like Jameer Nelson once did in Orlando but he won't improve to be better than Jennings or even Nelson, you can compare the stats yourself for Jackson, Jennings, and even Nelson since I'm sure you can easily do it and know how like you said, without me doing it for you.


Why not just answer the question?
Maybe I'm not really the one that needs saving from further embarrassment...



So much for 'encouraging discussion', again.

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:36 pm

Ur Boi Bangs Chol wrote:I already said that he will do well in Detroit

Read what you were arguing against and what you were saying. :shake:

So he'll do well like Augustin but is worse fit than Jenny. You are one heck of an idiot and a liar. More so than troll.

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:51 pm

Yeah Jackson will do well in Detroit same way Augustin produced well in Detroit when he was starting.
Yes I said Jennings is a better fit to a team with two post players because of his 3pt shooting.

What's the lie in that?

I don't see you denying what I said that can easily be verified by their stats.

Is it really that hard for you to answer ONE (1) question?



I don 't know if I should continue the discussion or stop it right now considering you just snapped in another thread. :lol:

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:04 am

You implied Reggie is an average player just as Augustin for the Pistons in argument against mine. What are you, a retarded troll now?

But to play your game, if we assume Augustin Average = Reggie Average, we shouldn't even be comparing Reggie to Jennings because it becomes blatantly obvious Jenny is the better. But you being a retarded troll kept up the pointless discussion.

Better yet, re-read what you were arguing against and how little sense you made in your response, your best argument was comically "one game?".


Actually this discussion was quite the fun because it entirely exposed your silliness. Anyone that reads this thread should see who you really are. Let this thread serve as an example.

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:49 am

NovU wrote:You implied Reggie is an average player just as Augustin for the Pistons in argument against mine.

But to play your game, if we assume Augustin Average = Reggie Average

Yes I truly did say that Augustin is an average player just like Reggie Jackson and even just like Jameer Nelson.


we shouldn't even be comparing Reggie to Jennings because it becomes blatantly obvious Jenny is the better. But you being a retarded troll kept up the pointless discussion.

Except you're the one that is saying that Jackson is better, that's why the discussion, it came from you, and now you're calling the discussion that started from you as pointless? And I'm supposed to be the retard? :lol:

I'm not the one that said Jennings is an above average player. You did. Check your posts.


one game

Yeah. As an advocate of analytics like yourself and a visitor of such sites as boxscoregeeks, b-r, 82games, and others, you know the importance of sample size in stats.
Only a massive idiot that's pretentious about stats would place importance in one regular season game in the middle of February.


Now could you please answer that ONE (1) question to save me from embarrassing myself any further from looking like a retard because of what I said and prevent me from going crazy in other threads. :lol:

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:17 am

You need to be more consistent in your argument. You jump into discussion strongly criticizing Reggie in every aspect(even his strength reb) with weak support and back ups(ie former champ examples in 3pt ability while it's merely jenny vs Reg). You go onto say he's as avg as DJ Aug. But changes the tune as cornered, to that he'll do well. Since it doesn't make any sense 'avg' = 'do well', you later change the tune once again to Augustin 'in starts' is as good as Reggie. It's silly. You had no argument but to whine/bitch so had to resort to making stuff up.

This is just one example of your stupidity. I'm not even gonna bother going into details of your elementary/silly argument.




If my claim that, Reggie could turn out to be a fine pick up for the Pistons which possibly could replace Jenny, is so difficult to understand, then so be it. Your trolling or so called reasoning that it is 110% impossible has turned out to be less than convincing and elementary/flawed. There is good possibility despite your 110% assurance that 3pts/reb/fitment will fail him and 'do well' like avg Augustin. Thank you for your insights though, which entirely ignored Reggie's aroused upside from situation changes. The best part about 'one game' argument was in its pathetic attempt to discredit obvious superb individual outing while diverting entire credits to his teammates, which ofc made little sense if unbiased. Yet I'm supposed to entirely agree to an idea that Reggie will be so avg that it's impossibility task to challenge jenny, at the same time 'do well'. Not to mention you being a fraud, putting word into mouth and taking things out of context, superstar? allstar? lmao



best of all, this idiot monkey expects somebody to educate him about all star standard and why jennings = above avg. :lol:

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:11 am

NovU wrote:(ie former champ examples in 3pt ability while it's merely jenny vs Reg)

Because I can't know or see the future like you do, all I have is their stats and not throw some words like 'upside' and hope that it makes my case not stupid.
And my statement then wasn't just about Jackson vs Jennings alone to begin with...
Ur Boi Bangs Chol wrote:I'm not comparing the two as individual players but players that fit in a team, which in this case is Detroit....


I also used the comparison of past teams because like I said I don't know the future like you do so I logically turn to the next best thing I can find which is the history and performance of teams that have big men as main players.

So I am wrong for logically turning to stats and known verified history to form my opinion and not working harder to open up my psychic ability to know the future. :cry:



you later change the tune once again to Augustin 'in starts' is as good as Reggie. It's silly. You had no argument but to whine/bitch so had to resort to making stuff up.

Because Augustin was doing well as a starter but not so when coming from the bench, same way Reggie was doing well as a starter for OKC but not so when coming from bench, which was also your point about Jackson doing well as a starter.
What's so silly about that? Just because you can't understand it doesn't mean I made it up. :roll:



If my claim that, Reggie could turn out to be a fine pick up for the Pistons which possibly could replace Jenny, is so difficult to understand, then so be it.

I didn't say Jackson CAN'T replace Jennings, I said Jennings is a better fit for Detroit because of his shooting. Wachu smoking son?



Thank you for your insights though, which entirely ignored Reggie's aroused upside from situation changes.

That's why I'm asking you that ONE (1) question on how you consider Reggie's production if you say he's better than an above average player/starter but not better than an all-star?

How did you come with that conclusion about his guaranteed upside? Stats? Watching the games? Psychic foretelling?



The best part about 'one game' argument was in its pathetic attempt to discredit obvious superb individual outing while diverting entire credits to his teammates, which ofc made little sense if unbiased.

I didn't discredit what he did in that game, I even said I liked his alley-oops, assists, rebounds, and the way he scored for the team.

What I'm discrediting is using that one or two games to prove a point that Jackson is already the best PG in Detroit statistically because that method is absolutely stupid. :lol:



Yet I'm supposed to entirely agree to an idea that Reggie will be so avg that it's impossibility task to challenge jenny, at the same time 'do well'.

No one said you have to agree, no one said it's impossible either.
Like KG said...



this idiot monkey expects somebody to educate him about all star standard and why jennings = above avg.

I know right, so it should be easy for you to answer...
Now could you please answer that ONE (1) question to save me from embarrassing myself any further from looking like a retard because of what I said and prevent me from going crazy in other threads. :lol:



5 posts from you already since that question and you still haven't answered it, the suspense might be too much that I might go crazy for fear of embarrassing myself. :lol:

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:34 am

Not all dance partners are the same, huh

I thought the "troll" is being ignored. Make up your mind already. Took magic Johnson a few times to permanently remain retired but still....

Would this guy even be discussed if he wasn't on someone's fantasy team?

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:43 am

DID U JUST CALL ME AIDS?!?...oh wait...

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:49 am

It's pointless to read your post. It's all the same. But I will tell you the real problem before I go.

You are often extremely fixated on proving someone wrong that you will nitpick on tiniest little thing and cling tenaciously on them as if it's anything significant. You will then try to expand on the non issue as if fungus feeding and expanding. The real problem is that your so called evidence or reasoning is usually so weak/stupid that it's hard to counter anyone's main proposed idea. And most importantly you are not able to offer your counter opinion since your base is so weak and opinionated duly on purpose of proving someone wrong on tiniest silly thing.

That is why you have hard time accepting 'There is good chance for Reggie Jackson to flourish under SVG system, possibly more than Jenny'. And you had to play your stupid silly troll game on this easy to understand factual point.

It only backfired again because you don't know what you're actually doing as usual. You are not as smart as you wanna believe, monkey. In fact you are quite sad.




EDIT: Obviously guys like benji, spree, andrew are awesome posters despite think differ often. Heck, even jackal, menopeusses are decent as broken clock gets the time right two times a day. When they're on, they're on the point and informational. But you are just sad, sad lil man. Just look at you in this thread, a point you tried to get thru versus my reasoning. Or look at the other day when you pretended to be Hinkie expert furiously defendin his ass with so little intel, was quite sad to listen to u, at least benji kicked in and so did spree.

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:04 am

You really got hurt and made that Sixers discussion personal that you can't even move on from it until now. And I'm supposed to be the sad lil man. :lol:

Are you really clutching straws and that desperate NOT to answer ONE (1) question to even name drop people just to avoid it. :lol: :facepalm2: :lol:
Add Obama too maybe that could help.


You are often extremely fixated on proving someone wrong that you will nitpick on tiniest little thing and cling tenaciously on them as if it's anything significant.

Nope. You just think that way.
That's why you can't even answer ONE (1) question based on your own statements because of your victim complex.
I'm just asking a question and hoping for an answer.


You will then try to expand on the non issue as if fungus feeding and expanding.

What non issue? That ONE (1) question I'm asking is based on your statements regarding the discussion, which is part of the topic, calling it a non-issue is basically saying that what you stated previously is BS since it's based on your statements.
Again, what non-issue if any?


The real problem is that your so called evidence or reasoning is usually so weak/stupid that it's hard to counter anyone's main proposed idea.

If it's weak and stupid then it's easy to answer my simple questions then to disprove it.


most importantly you are not able to offer your counter opinion since your base is so weak and opinionated duly on purpose of proving someone wrong on tiniest silly thing

lol wat, I already said my opinion, repeatedly, even quoted some of it. Read it, it's free.


That is why you have hard time accepting 'There is good chance for Reggie Jackson to flourish under SVG system, possibly more than Jenny'

I did?
...no one said it's impossible either.

I'm not the one having a hard time accepting that Jackson can't flourish, you're the one that's unable to accept that Jackson can fail or just be an average player over time.


you had to play your stupid silly troll game on this easy to understand factual point.

We were discussing, I asked a question, out of nowhere you bring up the troll and victim card, what for?
Got tired discussing so you had do it?
Then say it instead of doing your call out troll-victim schtick again and going 'oh poor NovU!' :roll:


You are not as smart as you wanna believe

I know.
If I were smart I wouldn't be asking simple questions that an idiot would know like you said.
That's why I'm asking questions to get answers because I'm dumb.


Now can you answer the question or just block with the forum foe list since it's obviously affecting your state of mind that you went crazy in one thread and keep name dropping people as a plea for help... :lol:

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:13 am

yawn

ain't you a bitch aren't u

What was your argument again? try to be concise bcuz i heard enuf of stupidit

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:20 am

Did this whole personal shit start from who is a better average player ? Don't turn this into special olympic guys. One of you should move on :(

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:27 am

I concur. But it was just too much fun exposing this hopeless child. He can go believe what he wants I guess.

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:36 am

If a grown up were as 'smart' as you, I consider that a compliment. Just one question and you snapped... :lol:


I hate Mondays wrote:One of you should move on :(

Move on, sure, I'm not the one going crazy in other threads or going on appeals to other people because I'm a grown man that can't answer one 'stupid' question. :lol:

Re: Reggie Jackson seeks trade

Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:16 am

Don't flatter yourself, it's not the question but your continuing stupidity that knows no end.

re-read what you were arguing against and how little sense you made in your response

Do this. It's almost comical.
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