who was the biggest draft bust in the nba from 1990 to 2002

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Postby Nick on Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:48 pm

Well, enough about busts...

Who were STEALS!? :o

Spud Webb definetly comes to mind. he was picked in the 4th Round!
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Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:20 pm

Nick Van Exel was taken 37th overall in 1993. Michael Finley was taken 20th in 1995. In a way Paul Pierce and Caron Butler were steals at 10th, but neither fell from the lottery.
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Postby Stevan on Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:50 pm

I think Keith Van Horn might be a moderate bust due to the expectations when he came out... "Great white hope" and all...

Johnny Stock was a bit of a steal at something like number 12...

From draft.net some steals:

Sam Cassel at 22.

Bryon Russell at 45.

Spreewell at 24.

Eric Snow at 43.

Cuttino Mobley at 41.

Rashard Lewis 32, at the time a highschooler so this wasn't a steal at the time probably.

Dejan Bodiroga, at 51 could have been a steal if he had played in the NBA :D Maybe not though...

Malik Rose at 44!

Stephen Jackson at 43.

Predrag Drobnjak at 49, although nothing special, he did start some games for the Sonics. Chris Anstey at 18, BUST!! Couldn't even do anything on the pathetic Bulls (at the time).
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Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 23, 2003 6:42 pm

Chris Anstey at 18, BUST!! Couldn't even do anything on the pathetic Bulls (at the time).


Anyone else remember Chris Anstey missing a layup in the open court back in the 2000 Olympics?
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Postby Rens on Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:34 pm

I figured injured players wouldn't really qualify because they can't really help their situation (unless they cut off their own leg, and i can't think of any nba player doing that).
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Postby PoliceLineDoNotCross on Mon Jun 23, 2003 10:12 pm

STEALS
eric snow: hes a solid point guard who keeps getting better.(2nd round pick)
gilbert arenas: a good scorer and passer who can also rebound.(2nd round)
clifford robinson: 2nd round pick had a great career.
maybe kobe: he became a really good player and he was picked 16th in the first round (i think).
michael redd: solid 2nd round pick who shoots the 3 really well.
jamaal magloire: i think he was picked late 1st or early 2nd. hes a good player now after winning the starting job from elden campell. now elden is in seattle.
gordan giricek: undrafted. a good scorer and can do other things.
tony parker?: he became a pretty good pointguard. he didn't do well in the playoff finals but he was still okay. i think he was picked 28th or 29th in the 1st round.
jamal tinsley: 28th or 29th pick. turned out to be an okay pointguard for now. he will probably improve.
i have more to list but i'll just name them: stephen jackson(3pt and driving the ball to the hoop), emanual ginobili(atheleticism), steve kerr(3pt),bruce bowen(defence),malik rose(great contributions), theres more but i've listed enough
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Postby . on Mon Jun 23, 2003 10:26 pm

maybe kobe: he became a really good player and he was picked 16th in the first round (i think).

he was the 13th overall.......and yeah, you can count that as a steal when players like Camby, Reef, Wright, Kittles ect... were selected before he was
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Postby alexboom on Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:03 pm

Sharone Wright was a bust because of a car accident, like bobby hurley, he was a quite good player before, scoring about 12 pts 8 rbds.

Todd Day was not so bad, he egalized the record of points scored in one quarter with 26


Chris Jackson scored about 19 ppts in his rookie season and won 2 or 3 times the FT % record in season (named as M. Abdul Rauf), like Billy O and Joe Smith he was a good player in his first seasons, he may not have a very long career though.
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Postby LeBron James on Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:04 pm

kobe is shoothing too much in the games!heś record are 47 what a jerk.even denver dont take so many shots :lol: lollllll lol lol lol

kobe bryant is shooting very bad field goal %
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Postby . on Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:18 pm

jason kidd wrote:kobe is shoothing too much in the games!heś record are 47 what a jerk.even denver dont take so many shots :lol: lollllll lol lol lol

kobe bryant is shooting very bad field goal %

what the hell is he&#347? :?

the Nuggets are taking about 80 shots per game so you are wrong, and yeah Kobe shot once 47 shots....I dont like that neither but every player makes mistakes.

his fieldgoal% is .451 and thats not very bad like U say it, there aint so many SG´s who shoot higher then him :roll:
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Postby Boyk on Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:23 pm

what the hell are you on about.

.454% in the NBA today is prolly above average.

who cares if he put up 47 shots, i would to if i had them players on my team lol

oh well, do you get coverage over there in estonia
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Postby putodelagoa on Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:31 pm

Shawn Bradley wasn't such a bust. He had the misfortune of coming out in a period dominated by awesome centers, that took their time banging him around. Think how well would Yao Ming fare in the early - mid 90's?
Selected today, I believe Bradley would have a little bit more of an impact, since there's little competition for a young player with is size. His shaky confidence wouldn't have been so damaged then.
Anyway I think he's an usefull player.
As a bust, I would have to point out Antonio Daniels...
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Postby paul_pierce_the_truth on Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:07 am

One trade I always think of when people mention busts is:


Pat Garrity at NBA.COM transaction:

selected by Milwaukee in the first round (19th overall) of the 1998 NBA Draft...Draft rights traded by Milwaukee with draft rights to Dirk Nowitzki to Dallas in exchange for draft rights to Robert Traylor (Jun. 24, 1998)...Draft rights traded by Dallas with Martin Muursepp, Bubba Wells and a 1999 first round draft pick to Phoenix in exchange for Steve Nash.

Dallas Trades:

Robert Traylor
Pat Garrity
Martin Muursepp
Bubba Wells
99 1st Rd Pick (although this pick may have resulted in Shawn Marion, but this doesn't detract from Milwaukee's bust) http://www.sportsstats.com/jazzyj/greats/99/

Dallas Gets:

Dirk Nowitzki
Steve Nash

I would still trade Shawn Marion, Traylor, Garrity and the other bums for Nash and Nowitzki.

But this is more about Milwaukee's fumble.

Talk about redundant and pointless. Sorry. :oops:
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Postby LeBron James on Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:10 am

paul_pierce_the_truth wrote:One trade I always think of when people mention busts is:


Pat Garrity at NBA.COM transaction:

selected by Milwaukee in the first round (19th overall) of the 1998 NBA Draft...Draft rights traded by Milwaukee with draft rights to Dirk Nowitzki to Dallas in exchange for draft rights to Robert Traylor (Jun. 24, 1998)...Draft rights traded by Dallas with Martin Muursepp, Bubba Wells and a 1999 first round draft pick to Phoenix in exchange for Steve Nash.

Dallas Trades:

Robert Traylor


muursepp is very good player.
Pat Garrity
Martin Muursepp
Bubba Wells
99 1st Rd Pick (although this pick may have resulted in Shawn Marion, but this doesn't detract from Milwaukee's bust) http://www.sportsstats.com/jazzyj/greats/99/

Dallas Gets:

Dirk Nowitzki
Steve Nash

I would still trade Shawn Marion, Traylor, Garrity and the other bums for Nash and Nowitzki.

But this is more about Milwaukee's fumble.

Talk about redundant and pointless. Sorry. :oops:


muursepp is good player,he goes to boston summerleague in july. :cool:
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Postby benji on Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:19 am

You mean the Dennis Scott who among others had these career highlights...

Set an NBA single-season record in 1996-97 with 267 three-pointers

Set an NBA record for most three-pointers made in a game (11), and tied the record for most in a half (7), against the Atlanta Hawks on 4/18/96 (I know Kobe just broke it, but still)

Named to the 1990-91 NBA All-Rookie Team after averaging 15.7 ppg and setting an NBA record for most three-pointers made in a season by a rookie with 125

Is the Magic all-time franchise leader in three-pointers made (981) and attempted (2,432) and ranks 3rd in points (6,603) and steals (429)

All he did was stand by the three point line and fling away, and rather than develop into a multi-dimensional forward/guard he degraded into a three point bomber who didn't play defense.

for all you people that criticize darius miles and jonathan bender, they were drafted out of high school and jermaine o'neal was drafted out of high school and it took him four years to become a pretty good player. now jermaine o'neal is an all-star and i think darius miles and jonathan bender can also be good players in 1 or 2 years.

The problem is, Jermaine O'Neal was showing development and was stashed on the bench and barely playing 10 minutes a night. Darius Miles is getting worse despite getting more minutes every year. Jonathan Bender's development has been superslow and while he gets significant minutes, he's still very inconsistant.
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Postby GloveGuy on Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:40 am

This year's steals were Smush Parker and J.R. Bremer. Neither of them were even drafted, yet ended up starting some games for their teams.

I bet that Qyntell Woods'll be a steal. Teams are gonna regret not taking him in the lottery, where he should've been.

Wasn't Loren Woods supposed to be thought of as a steal? I went on archive.org and searched for nbadraft.net. Once they had Loren Woods as their guess for the number one pick. But he was passed on 'till the second round. He hasn't shown much yet, but I bet he could do well.
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Postby Colin on Tue Jun 24, 2003 4:00 am

That Junior Harrington on the Nugs was a steal too, he started some games for them. Oh and those Milwaukee/Dallas/Phoenix trades. This was when Nash was stuck on the bench behind JKidd doing very little. Nobody thought he'd be great so it was a pretty good idea to trade him for a pick that turned out to be Marion. And almost nobody was taking chances on those big Euro shooters like Dirk. They didn't think he was that good either.
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Postby benji on Tue Jun 24, 2003 5:25 am

gloveguy wrote:Wasn't Loren Woods supposed to be thought of as a steal? I went on archive.org and searched for nbadraft.net. Once they had Loren Woods as their guess for the number one pick. But he was passed on 'till the second round. He hasn't shown much yet, but I bet he could do well.

Apparently he's got attitude problems and refuses to do what he's asked.
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Postby air gordon on Tue Jun 24, 2003 5:33 am

buster- frederick weiss. nyk passed on local product, ron artest, for this 7ft foreigner. weiss only claim to fame is being jumped over and dunked on by VC in the summer games

steals- 'the truth', pippen, najera, & steve francis- although he didn't want to play for vancouver, the rockets didn't give up much for him
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Postby Jackal on Tue Jun 24, 2003 6:23 am

jason kidd wrote:kobe is shoothing too much in the games!heś record are 47 what a jerk.even denver dont take so many shots :lol: lollllll lol lol lol
kobe bryant is shooting very bad field goal %
other topic: no, allen iverson rulez!


Man, your a dope, according to you, if a player takes too many shots, or his % is low he sux, well in that case Kidd AND Iverson suck even more than Kobe according to you;
Kobe %: .451
Kidd %: . .414
Iverson %: .414 <<<< Seeing this it proves (according to u) that ur Mentor (kidd) and Iverson suck BIGTIME
Shots taken:
Kobe: 47
Kidd: 36...not all that far behind
Iverson: 42 even closer.
So according to your mentality...Both the guys you mentioned/adore SUCK bigtime!! Kobe took those shots and was still second in the league in scoring. Kidd and Iverson weren't even in the Thirty Points...So man...plz if you think sumone sux...come up with better excuses as to WHY they suck...or just shutup :roll:
See You made me go offtopic....Biggest bust is Shaq! hihihi seriously Shawn Bradley I think.
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Postby Big Answer on Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:29 pm

Coming back to busts, nobody quoted Eric Montross............. :lol:
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Postby Andrew on Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:27 pm

Montross speaks for himself. :wink:
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Postby Shep on Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:30 pm

steal: michael jordan #3
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Postby Brave Sir Rubin on Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:35 pm

hard to say...houston who chose Hakeen were much better off with him than they'd ever be with MJ in my opinion....
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Postby air gordon on Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:50 pm

can a player be considered a 'steal' if he is picked in top 3 or even top 5??!!
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