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Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:13 pm

tendo wrote:
Silas wrote:The fact that Ray Allen is only 26 shows that it means nothing. He is easily one of the top 10 players in the NBA.
I agree that Allen should definetly be higher up, as for the top ten i'm not so sure. Who would you take out for him to replace?


I think he's easily better than Chris Paul or Carmelo Anthony. Just because somebody is going to be an amazing player in a couple years doesn't make them better at this point in time. Too many people are in there just off potentional.

A better ten might look like this...

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Steve Nash
3. LeBron James
4. Dwayne Wade
5. Tim Duncan
6. Allen Iverson
7. Ray Allen
8. Dirk Nowitzki
9. Kevin Garnett
10. Paul Pierce

Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:52 pm

Ray Allen ahead of Dirk, Garnett, Pierce and Anthony? I agree with the Chris Paul comment but he is not better than Pierce or Anthony, and Dirk and Garnett have already shown they are two of the leagues best. Don't get me wrong, Ray Allen is very good, but Carmelo at this point is better and due to age I don't see that changing. In fact, Carmelo beats out Allen in all major statistical categories except for TO, FT% and 3PT% in 3 minutes less playing time.

Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:55 pm

Dirk shouldn't trail Allen, i actually agree with him sitting in at around 4th. As for "Wade>Lebron", i'd take Wade everytime.

Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:24 pm

BigKaboom2 wrote:
cyanide wrote:It should be important to note that the article was written on November 22nd, so a lot of them were based on guesstimation early into the season, but still, not having Boozer on there is pretty dumb.


You guys didn't read my post.... :whistle:

The list was written at the beginning of last summer. They revised it two months ago with the list I posted.


ahh No i dont think so :wink: ... Cy was right actually it was started in November and every couple of days they would add a new player and every one added their oppinions on that player, eventually working their way down to number 1. Then they finished and did the redux (the same top 50 but what they thought they got wrong/right at the time). Theres no way it was made last summer because Bargnani wasn't even playing then :roll:

and with this
BigKaboom2 wrote:Ok....nevermind what I said before. The topic is kind of misleading. I clicked the link and saw that this list was made a long time ago. The "Redux" part was adding

SLAM wrote:My top 10 regrets for being on the list at all or coming in way too high/low low are:

1. Bargnani
2. Darko
3. Hinrich
4. Kidd
5. Kirilenko
6. Pierce
7. Bosh
8. Marion
9. KG
10. T-Mac

Guys I wish we included:

1. Baron Davis
2. Lamar Odom
3. Caron Butler
4. Emeka Okafor
5. Ben Gordon
6. Rasheed Wallace
7. Carlos Boozer
8. Deron Williams
9. Richard Jefferson (sort of)
10. Peja (sort of)


As well as...

SLAM wrote:46. Andrea Bargnani - Okay. This was goofy. Our bad. This upset people.
49. Darko Milicic - Yeah, that was dumb.

and the first guys in your post Bargnani, Darko, Hinrich etc. were all in the list originally, it's just they think they got it wrong where they put them, and with the 2nd lot of guys there Baron, Lamar, Caron etc. were guys they wished they had've included originally, now a couple of months later they have played well etc....

Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:13 am

Wow that list is fairly shit... I reckon EA could make a better list.

Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:02 am

I don't think it's fair to call Carmello better than Ray. Ray has proven for more than ten years that he's one of the top players in the league. He is much more consistent than carmello, as well as much smarter with the basketball.

It's true that in just a couple years Carmello will be the superior player, but at this point in time I don't think it's fair to say that Carmello is better just because of age.

Ray has shown that when he's on he's as good as anyone offensively, except for somebody like Kobe or Iverson, who are untouchable offensively. When he has a bad night, he makes a consistent 22-24 points, and when he has a good night it's 28-32 pts, or in light of recent events, 54. I'm not trying to make him out to be better than Iverson or Kobe or LeBron, but I certainly think he's a lot better than people give him credit for, and a lot better than Carmello.

Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:17 am

1. Kobe Bryant
2. LeBron James
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Tim Duncan
6. Allen Iverson
7. Steve Nash
8. Carmelo Anthony
9. Chris Paul
10. Kevin Garnett
11. Yao Ming
12. Elton Brand
13. Gilbert Arenas
14. Shaquille O’Neal
15. Dwight Howard
16. Andrei Kirilenko
17. Tracy McGrady
18. Paul Pierce
19. Vince Carter
20. Chris Bosh
21. Pau Gasol
22. Ron Artest
23. Jermaine O’Neal
24. Amare Stoudemire
25. Tony Parker
26. Ray Allen
27. Shawn Marion
28. Chauncey Billups
29. Joe Johnson
30. Kirk Hinrich
31. Manu Ginobili
32. Ben Wallace
33. Michael Redd
34. Jason Kidd
35. Rip Hamilton
36. Jason Richardson
37. Jason Terry
38. Sam Cassell
39. Stephon Marbury
40. Antawn Jamison
41. Andrew Bogut
42. Mike Bibby
43. Josh Howard
44. Zach Randolph
45. Adam Morrison
46. Andrea Bargnani
47. Josh Smith
48. Chris Kaman
49. Darko Milicic
50. Boris Diaw


Rasheed Wallace isn't on there and he should be.

Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:15 am

Alright, no need to post the entire list again.

As for your comment, just read my second post in this topic. You guys are killing me.

Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:16 am

That list is laughable.

Slam is and always has been a joke. No credibility whatsoever.

Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:56 am

This season: (forget injuries/ suspensions_

1) Steve Nash
This year he actually deserves the MVP.

2) Kobe Bryant
Waaaay over-performing but he's become a leader.

3) Dirk Nowitzki
He's the best player on the best team.

4) Gilbert Arenas
Just scores more each year.

5) Yao Ming
Become the most dominant player center in the league.

6) Carmelo Anthony
Best scorer in the league until he met the Knicks.

7) Tim Duncan
Having a great year despite numbers not being great and his team not playing great.

8) Chris Bosh
Great year for the PF. Avergaing 4 more rebounds.

9) Dwayne Wade
Should be higher but he cannot seem to win consistently without Shaq with a better supporting cast than LeBron.

10) LeBron James
By his standards, not a great year.


Looking back this is basically an MVP candidate list. SHIT!!

Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:45 am

Jermaine at 23rd is a complete joke. He is the best all around big in the Eastern Conference right now. Bosh may be a slightly better scorer, and Dwight a slightly better rebounder, but Jermaine does everything on both sides of the court including taking 1-2 charges every game.

Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:51 am

weejontee wrote:This season: (forget injuries/ suspensions_

1) Steve Nash
This year he actually deserves the MVP.

2) Kobe Bryant
Waaaay over-performing but he's become a leader.

3) Dirk Nowitzki
He's the best player on the best team.

4) Gilbert Arenas
Just scores more each year.

5) Yao Ming
Become the most dominant player center in the league.

6) Carmelo Anthony
Best scorer in the league until he met the Knicks.

7) Tim Duncan
Having a great year despite numbers not being great and his team not playing great.

8) Chris Bosh
Great year for the PF. Avergaing 4 more rebounds.

9) Dwayne Wade
Should be higher but he cannot seem to win consistently without Shaq with a better supporting cast than LeBron.

10) LeBron James
By his standards, not a great year.


Looking back this is basically an MVP candidate list. SHIT!!

Kidd>Nash. Seriously I believe so.

Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:02 am

lakerskobe247 wrote:I wouldn't even consider Wade a top 5 player before this season. This year he isn't even top 10. Lebron is top 4-5 at best.

1. Kobe
2. KG/Hibachi
4. Dirk
5. Lebron
6. TD(switch with Lebron if healthy)
7. T-mac(put to 4 and push everyone up if healthy)
8. Carmelo
9. Yao
10. Steve Nash/Shawn Marion/Jason Kidd

I don't know why Jason Kidd is so underrated and why Nash is so overrated. Kidd is the best true point guard in the league and a better player too.


WHO THE HELL IS HIBACHI?????????????????????? :shock:

Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:19 am

Weiland wrote:WHO THE HELL IS HIBACHI?????????????????????? :shock:


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2006120127

Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:03 pm

WHO THE HELL IS HIBACHI??????????????????????


Haha, but seriously even tho i dont like the fella, KG has been the man for the past 5 years, regardless of how is team plays

Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:54 am

LeBron should be on top...why does kobe?

Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:02 am

M-M-M-MEGABUMP

Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:13 pm

Shaq>Dwight :lol:

Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:59 pm

:lol: Wow. This is one for the record books.

Hilarious list. Darko > Boozer any day!

Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:20 pm

THE EDITED LIST OF THE TOP 25 THIS SEASON (IMO)

1. Kobe Bryant
2. LeBron James
3. Chris Paul
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Dwight Howard
6. Tim Duncan
7. Amare Stoudemire
8. Dirk Nowitzki
9. Steve Nash
10. Allen Iverson
11. Paul Pierce
12. Tracy McGrady
13. Carmelo Anthony
14. Carlos Boozer
15. Yao Ming
16. Baron Davis
17. Deron Williams
18. Chris Bosh
19. Ray Allen
20. Antawn Jamison
21. Manu Ginobili
22. Dwyane Wade
23. Gilbert Arenas
24. Andre Iguodala
25. Chauncey Billups
Last edited by Skills on Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:04 am, edited 1 time in total.

Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:02 am

if your only doing it from THIS season, then gilbert arenas shouldnt be so high, hes been injured most of the season

Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:29 am

Skillmatic wrote:IMO, Here's the list of the top 25 of THIS season:

1. Kobe Bryant
2. LeBron James
3. Chris Paul
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Dwight Howard
6. Tim Duncan
7. Dirk Nowitzki
8. Amare Stoudemire
9. Steve Nash
10. Allen Iverson
11. Gilbert Arenas
12. Tracy McGrady
13. Paul Pierce
14. Carmelo Anthony
15. Carlos Boozer
16. Yao Ming
17. Baron Davis
18. Deron Williams
19. Chris Bosh
20. Ray Allen
21. Dwyane Wade
22. Antawn Jamison
23. Tony Parker
24. Chauncey Billups
25. Richard Jefferson

Honorable Mention:
Jason Kidd, Manu Ginobili, Vince Carter, Shawn Marion..

Note: I put Wade down low because he hasn't been healthy this season and his team's been a total wreck. Though his play was good enough to make it into the top 25.

What a waste of time. Also, Jefferson over Iguodala?

Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:23 pm

You have the wrong Jefferson. It should read AL Jefferson and not RICHARD Jefferson.

Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:44 pm

What? Parker over Manu ?

Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:45 am

What the. I didn't think this got posted :?
Man, I guess the boards are a little messed..
Gilbert and RJ should've been down, Manu and iggy should've been up.
I guess MY list is in need for some editing..
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