NLSC Basketball '14

[shadowgrin]

What strategy are you talking about when you mainly rely on fantasy sites to do your draft/waiver picks for you.


And you make it sound like Nick taking Bogut from waivers last year was a game changer, it wasn't afaik. So Nick got Bogut before you, deal with it and move on already.

The problem is I can't afford to let others to take him so I am using my waiver on him regardless....
...I would trade him back to SoFn'Awesome if possible but then there's no way to get my #2 waiver back.

There's no problem with commish powers if Q sees fit to use it to help the noob out from his own noobness.
Q can even take Marion away from you if you use your #2 waiver list on him afaik.

The trade was a different thing because if Q used his commish powers then it will still be unfair to Axel. even if he is scum.

But using commish powers to help out the noob because of his own noob fault is unfair to no one, so I say let the noob have his waived player back because of his noobness, if he repeats the same noob mistake then he becomes fair game for everyone then.

[shadowgrin]

And Eric Bledsoe is out, needs surgery for his meniscus. Out 'indefinitely'.

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[NovU]

Tough luck. Chris Paul, Splitter, now Bledsoe. What's worse is that Bledsoe's injury sounds so severe that I wouldn't trade Alec Burks for him, lol.

And you make it sound like Nick taking Bogut from waivers last year was a game changer, it wasn't afaik. So Nick got Bogut before you, deal with it and move on already.

In that sense, Marion's not a game changer either. He's a 35 years old player on downhill that's injured atm. He's been a 11 ppg 7 reb guy which even is a surprise especially at this stage in his career. Keep that up, he's an ok pick up, not a steal like last season's Tobias or Isaiah from FAs. It's possible real sleepers are still out there, lol.

[[Q]]

Part of me does feel bad for the guy as he IS the worst team record wise in the league right now. I guess it's possible that if he really wants Marion back, that's something I could do if everyone's okay with it.

But part of me also feels like that's just part of the game too. It was his decision in the end and honestly his pickups weren't the worst pickups in the world and it'll be a learning experience for him. If anything, if you really want to give him back Marion, IN GREEN could be a nice guy and use his waiver to pick up Marion and then LeBalling Demons could use their #1 waiver to pick up whoever he drops and then they can trade back.

[NovU]

I can't be a nice guy after wasting a 2nd highest waiver nor I could afford to lose Marion to a wrong team. And this is a competitive league, there is no place for favoritism as we all play under the same rule. I'm against using your commie power unless it's absolutely necessary.

Gaining advantage on someone else's mistake is common in every league. Kinda why I was hoping for SoF'nAwesome to have him back with his own power.

[shadowgrin]

I can't be a nice guy after wasting a 2nd highest waiver nor I could afford to lose Marion to a wrong team.

For fancying yourself in being good at fantasy moves I'm disappointed in your lack of understanding on this.

Simply put you PM the noob which player to pick on waivers for you, while you pick Marion, then trade.

It's swapping his #1 waiver pick for your #2 waiver pick. You get the player you want on waivers because the noob picked it and traded it to you while the noob gets back Marion.

All fixed without Qballer using his commish powers that you despise and none of that drama of you losing your #2 waiver pick.

Unless you just tell it like it is and say you want Marion so you could win instead of that 'lose Marion to a wrong team' double talk. Stop being like Doc Rivers and come out clean and admit it like a real man.

[NovU]

That's quite unnecessary and stupid hassle, don't you think? It is equivalent to Qballer using his commish power. I'd rather have Qballer do that than going through all that shitty process as it presents another set of headaches. What if he's not to be avail when I need him. Waiver & Trade takes longer and what if I need it in a hurry asap. What if I want to pull back on waiver. What if he mistakenly wastes it for his own use. This also restricts his use/growth of waiver.

You are asking me to be at someone else's mercy while all this can be avoided with simple Qballer's magical power. Why would I want to go through the misery just because some of you falsely believe it's morally correct for whatever the silly reasons? At the end of the day, it's a same shit done just in a different way. It's stupid.

You are making it sound like I am being greedy but seriously? You can have my vote so Qballer can reverse this entire ordeal.

[shadowgrin]

That's quite unnecessary and stupid hassle, don't you think? It is equivalent to Qballer using his commish power. I'd rather have Qballer do that than going through all that shitty process as it presents another set of headaches. What if he's not to be avail when I need him. Waiver & Trade takes longer and what if I need it in a hurry asap. What if I want to pull back on waiver. What if he mistakenly wastes it for his own use. This also restricts his use/growth of waiver.

You are asking me to be at someone else's mercy while all this can be avoided with simple Qballer's magical power. Why would I want to go through the misery just because some of you falsely believe it's morally correct for whatever the silly reasons? At the end of the day, it's a same shit done just in a different way. It's stupid.

You are making it sound like I am being greedy but seriously? You can have my vote so Qballer can reverse this entire ordeal.

The problem is I can't afford to let others to take him so I am using my waiver on him regardless. Marion's injured but I expect him to be still worthy of the high waiver. I would trade him back to SoFn'Awesome if possible but then there's no way to get my #2 waiver back. So, sorry guys, but I am taking this one (if yahoo prevents placing waiver on own player). Budinger at least will be avail fyi.

I like how you were willing to do something and when presented the option to do it you start ranting mad against it.

this is a competitive league, there is no place for favoritism as we all play under the same rule. I'm against using your commie power unless it's absolutely necessary.

I don't know your definition of competitive league regarding fantasy basketball but no, this is not that competitive as you think it is.
$$ league is where the real competition is at.

[NovU]

I like how you were willing to do something and when presented the option to do it you start ranting mad against it.

"Willing" to do as long as it don't hurt my chance. You are pushing it.

At the end of the day, I have no obligation whatsoever to sacrifice myself to extent. It's extremely naive for anyone to be saying otherwise. Why is this non issue a big deal anyway? This is just Shawn Marion who is a late round pick, not LBJ, heck not even Jimmy Butler.

So... on second thought, I am just taking him if Yahoo allows it.

[[Q]]

So... on second thought, I am just taking him if Yahoo allows it.

ok that's fine. problem solved.

Why is this non issue a big deal anyway? This is just Shawn Marion who is a late round pick, not LBJ, heck not even Jimmy Butler.

You were the one that brought it up. You were trying to "coach" him and help him out and Shadow jumped in

[shadowgrin]

I like how you were willing to do something and when presented the option to do it you start ranting mad against it.

"Willing" to do as long as it don't hurt my chance.

You are making it sound like I am being greedy

looooool.

You were the one that brought it up. You were trying to "coach" him and help him out and Shadow jumped in

But Q bro it wouldn't be cool if we said nothing bro, I mean we can help him by using our waiver picks on Marion then trading it back to him bro since he's our bro and should watch out for him bro, see how it sounds nice in theory bro how I'm sacrificing like GOAT LeBron bro except I don't want to do it when it hassles me bro don't get me wrong bro I'm willing to help out bro but not when it doesn't benefit me bro because what's the point of helping someone bro when I don't largely benefit from it bro. Bro.

[NovU]

U mad bro?

[shadowgrin]

I like how you were willing to do something and when presented the option to do it you start ranting mad against it.

looooool.

Most hilarious and sad was how the discussion had the trademark NovU line of thinking.

NovU says something he thinks is a good idea.
Gets called out for it.
NovU plays the victim card.
Quits in rage because his idea turned against him.
Profit?

[NovU]

yawn... Tell me when you done nagging, jesus...

[shadowgrin]

U mad bro?

[NovU]

Ofc I'm raging.

[SoF'nAwesome]

Quite the discussion. So, what's gonna happen to Marion?

I'm sorry I didn't visit this place for 2 days.

Anyway,



Guys, you take this a lot seriously than I do. And I'm still a noob(as it was mentioned about 166-453 times), so do things how you see fit.

[shadowgrin]

Guys, you take this a lot seriously than I do.

But NLSC fantasy ball iz srs bznis.
With that attitude you deserved to be stripped of your players and have a team of Mike Jameses.

[SoF'nAwesome]

The Canadian politician of the early 20th century?

[NovU]

Quite the discussion. So, what's gonna happen to Marion?

Looks like I landed him on my team. Did you at least try to pick him up? (You had that #1 waiver right. I guess what Qballer said was right?)

Guys, you take this a lot seriously than I do. And I'm still a noob(as it was mentioned about 166-453 times), so do things how you see fit.

It doesn't take much to start winning (at least a bit) in this league as long as you're paying attention to who's hot and not. Right now you're beating Dan Smith, and you can do this many more times if you pick up hot hands on regular basis. Here are some tips.

http://www.rotoworld.com - Use this site for player evaluation (I use it mostly for injury report. Otherwise their predictions are off often.). Use 'Search Player' field to find a player you want. On the right side of player profile page, you can see depth chart. You normally want a player that's on top of each position. At the bottom, there's last 7 game stats. Look at it to see the trend how the players are playing these days.

And then there's http://www.basketball-reference.com for overall stats. It's more of a draft strategy but you normally want players in 4th-9th(and in prime age wise) seasons. They're more likely sure deals than rookies, 2nd year pros or out of prime players. Note that 10-5-2 player(like Kawhi/Jimmy Butler) won't suddenly average 20-7-5, so you can assume where his value's at and when to draft the guy.

Lastly in our fantasy league webpage, there's a "Research" tab on top. You can see how the trend of all leagues, who's getting picked up or dropped. It's useful if you just want to check out a trend.

Ain't much, but it's all you need. At the end of the day it still is more about your instinct and luck. But stick to this strategy and you will find winning easy like I was able to do.

[SoF'nAwesome]

Looks like I landed him on my team. Did you at least try to pick him up? (You had that #1 waiver right. I guess what Qballer said was right?)

Yep, I saw that. Well, I didn't really care much for Marion. So, when I visited this place yesterday and saw your post on page 4(before reading page 5), I went to the place and tried to add him but it gave me the message "you can't add a player you dropped til the waiver period ends" or something like that. I left it like that & then saw that he was in your team.

It doesn't take much to start winning (at least a bit) in this league as long as you're paying attention to who's hot and not. Right now you're beating Dan Smith, and you can do this many more times if you pick up hot hands on regular basis. Here are some tips.

http://www.rotoworld.com - Use this site for player evaluation (I use it mostly for injury report. Otherwise their predictions are off often.). Use 'Search Player' field to find a player you want. On the right side of player profile page, you can see depth chart. You normally want a player that's on top of each position. At the bottom, there's last 7 game stats. Look at it to see the trend how the players are playing these days.

And then there's http://www.basketball-reference.com for overall stats. It's more of a draft strategy but you normally want players in 4th-9th(and in prime age wise) seasons. They're more likely sure deals than rookies, 2nd year pros or out of prime players. Note that 10-5-2 player(like Kawhi/Jimmy Butler) won't suddenly average 20-7-5, so you can assume where his value's at and when to draft the guy.

Lastly in our fantasy league webpage, there's a "Research" tab on top. You can see how the trend of all leagues, who's getting picked up or dropped. It's useful if you just want to check out a trend.

Ain't much, but it's all you need. At the end of the day it still is more about your instinct and luck. But stick to this strategy and you will find winning easy like I was able to do.

Thanks man. This season might be a bit late for me, but this stuff will help me more in the srs bznis world. So, hopefully I will make it to the playoffs next season. Again, thank you for the well put short summary.

[NovU]

Sorry you couldn't get your Marion back and as I also need him.

Just take this season as a practice and try not to end up last. Just have fun. After all you just need one good stretch.

Tip: Pick up Brian Roberts from FA as you have a spot available. He'll be a good service to you until Jrue comes back (not soon). And drop Nick Collison for Chase Budinger. Just don't waste your #1 waiver on him. I think you can beat Dan Smith and couple other guys if you try. Good luck.

[SoF'nAwesome]

I don't have one empty spot anymore as I already added Marcus Morris. But, I will get Budinger. Let's see...

[NovU]

I recommend you to pick Marcus Morris up after his Waiver is cleared. You might not want to waste your #1 waiver right on him. He's not worth it. So 'cancel' the pick up asap and pick him up tomorrow or like 5-7 hours later.

Let's say somebody dropped LBJ, you will be the first one that's able to pick him up. I had the #2 waiver so I was able to snatch Marion before everyone else. You couldn't because he was your own drop. So Waiver is important in many ways. So you might want to hold on to it until some real deal comes up.

W (Jan 14) <--- this means you can pick him up after 14th. Either you can place your Waiver right to pick him up as soon as he becomes avail (whoever has highest waiver takes him) or you can simply pick him up if nobody wants him and when his W is cleared.

[shadowgrin]

I don't have one empty spot anymore as I already added Marcus Morris. But, I will get Budinger. Let's see...

You can drop Jason Terry if you need more roster space and put Andre Miller in your bench.
Jason Terry is just old and pathetic now and Andre Miller is currently in Shaw's doghouse.