Lakers Thread

[KB24]

I hope Pinnock gets on the team. He has the tools and heart to be a solid player.

[Laker Socks]

Wow. Andrew Bynum was a monster on the second game.

Pinnock is showing that he is a 2-way player. The only 2 way player on the lakers last season was Kobe Bryant. Good pickup by Mitch.

As for Farmar, he's another matador.

[KB24]

Wow. Andrew Bynum was a monster on the second game.

Pinnock is showing that he is a 2-way player. The only 2 way player on the lakers last season was Kobe Bryant. Good pickup by Mitch.

As for Farmar, he's another matador.

Well, he is only 18 yrs old.

[Laker Socks]

And? I was complimenting Bynum.

And if you're talking about farmar, he's not 18.

[J@3]

From what I read at DraftExpress, Farmar was good on D except for when it came to defending screens... they also said Marcus Douthit has developed an offensive game, but pretty much ignored his D which was previously his strength

[jonnyboy261]

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[Carmo]

Why would he put them in because they are friends?

[maes]

(sorry, digging up stuff from a page before)

Seattle was a team that NEEDED its players to chuk up 3's to win games. The clippers asked him to spot up which resulted in him shooting a lot fo 3's.

BUT, despite being asked to become a spot up shooter, this is a guy that cuts to the hoop and attacks the basket when you dont back off him.

Seattle wanted Radmanovic to be a Power Forward, not a 3 point shooter. He obviously refused or had not talent for it, so Nate finally stopped trying to shape him and just let him play what he wanted, the 3...but he had to play third fiddle to Ray & Rashard as a wingman.

When it comes to shooting 3's, with Ray Ray, Rashard, and Ridnour...the last thing Seattle needs is another 3 point shooter. That's why Vlade was not given an extension last off-season, and subsequently traded to the Clips for Wilcox, a true PF.

Yes, Kukoc is a much better defender and has better court vision than Radman but basically, same skillsets, same playing style. That's why a Radman-Kukoc comparison makes sense.

Hmm Kukoc was a totally different player imho. Kukoc was an old school SF, back from the Oscar Robertson era when a SF meant you could smallball or postup with equal skill. For Jordan's bulls Kukoc was typically their best post-up option, and much of the time in the post he would use it to feed Michael or Scottie for a jumper..occasionally he would do an awkward up and under that somehow went in.

Vlade is much more athletic, a lot faster, a better 3 point shooter, far better dunker. Vlade is a modern, scoring wing. He doesn't pass...he's 1.3 - 1.5 apg.

Kukoc: back to the basket, post-up, half-court, primarily passer (reminded me of Divac and Sabonis)
Vlade: face the basket, transition, jump shooter & dunker.

[Laker Socks]

Seattle wanted Radmanovic to be a Power Forward, not a 3 point shooter

The sonics offense at that time was shoot shoot shoot and shoot some more. They wanted him to play PF? No. They already had Evans and Fortson to bang in the post.

They actually liked what Vlad brought to the team and offered him a big extension which Vlad declined because he thought he deserved more.

When it comes to shooting 3's, with Ray Ray, Rashard, and Ridnour...the last thing Seattle needs is another 3 point shooter.

Wrong again. They wanted these guys to run and shoot. Shooting was the only reason why they had a good playoff run.

That's why Vlade was not given an extension last off-season, and subsequently traded to the Clips for Wilcox, a true PF.

that's funny because you got your facts wrong.

Vlad Rad refused around 7 million a year from the sonics. He took the one year tender, then, when the sonics realized that they cannot give Vlad the money he wanted, they barely played him then later traded him to the clips.

Taking the MLE is a paycut for him.

Hmm Kukoc was a totally different player imho. Kukoc was an old school SF, back from the Oscar Robertson era when a SF meant you could smallball or postup with equal skill. For Jordan's bulls Kukoc was typically their best post-up option, and much of the time in the post he would use it to feed Michael or Scottie for a jumper..occasionally he would do an awkward up and under that somehow went in.

Vlade is much more athletic, a lot faster, a better 3 point shooter, far better dunker. Vlade is a modern, scoring wing. He doesn't pass...he's 1.3 - 1.5 apg.

Kukoc: back to the basket, post-up, half-court, primarily passer (reminded me of Divac and Sabonis)
Vlade: face the basket, transition, jump shooter & dunker.

Please go back a page and read my previous posts. I dont want to repeat the same old stuff al over again.

[Laker Socks]

Laker Fans, presenting your newest laker: Shammond Williams.

Shammond Williams, who has been out of the NBA for the past two seasons, has agreed to a one-year contract to join the Lakers.

Williams' agent, Bill Duffy, said his client will sign for the biannual exception of $1.75 million today.

http://www.pe.com/sports/breakout/stori ... eb6ce.html

Oh and Vlad Rad is officially a Laker:

[Buckley]

man shammond williams always got signed by the hawks in live 2005 in my dynasties, now hes with a team...

radmanovic should help the lakers with there 3 point shooting.

[jonnyboy261]

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[Silas]

I think Radmonovic is a great sign, he fits into that Kukoc role....

They've got everything to emulate the bulls except Pippen's defense and Jordan's ability to make all of his teammates really really good..... lol.

[Laker Socks]

On a statistical standpoint, Kobe makes his teammates better than anyone else in the league last season.

[kingtrobe807]

it would me nice to get al harrington....but lakers dont have enough money..

[Laker Socks]

If the ban was not lifted, we would've been one of the very few teams with enough expiring contracts to entice the hawks.

Now that the ban has been lifted, chances of acquiring him are slim to none.

[TRUball]

If the ban was not lifted, we would've been one of the very few teams with enough expiring contracts to entice the hawks.

Now that the ban has been lifted, chances of acquiring him are slim to none.

Ban?

[Laker Socks]

A Maryland judge who's handling the ownership dispute between the team's current owners and forced-out owner Steve Belkin ruled Thursday that the Hawks (and their NHL cousin Thrashers) can execute only one-year contracts with players until the final decision on who runs the team is made.

That wasn't a problem with existing negotiations such as those with free-agent guard Speedy Claxton, who agreed to a contract in Atlanta earlier in the week. But it might well make it near impossible to trade Harrington for anything approaching market value, since the Hawks could take back only players with a year remaining on their deals.

For example, it would be impossible for Atlanta, if it so desired, to get Jamaal Tinsley (who has five seasons left on his contract) or Stephen Jackson (four seasons) - two players the Pacers have been shopping - in any sign-and-trade for Harrington.

The Hawks' universe would be limited to veterans such as Lakers center Chris Mihm, Bucks forward Joe Smith, Knicks forward Mo Taylor, and Grizzlies guard Eddie Jonesin potential sign-and-trade deals

AJC.com - A Maryland court this afternoon lifted the ban that it last week placed on the Hawks and Thrashers signing players to multi-year contracts.

The new order states that the Hawks can trade for players who have no more than 4 years remaining on their contract. The same goes for free agent signings.

Any transactions that go beyond the new conditions – i.e., exceed the salary cap or result in the acquisition of contracts longer than four years – would require unanimous consent of the Atlanta Spirit board of managers. Essentially, that means Belkin would have to agree with the other owners to make such transactions.

[Fenix]

I think Radmonovic is a great sign, he fits into that Kukoc role....

They've got everything to emulate the bulls except Pippen's defense and Jordan's ability to make all of his teammates really really good..... lol.

I think you overrate Odom and Radmanovic's offense. Pippen was much smarter than Odom is, much better playmaker and way, way better scorer. Odom and Rad have a lot of the tools Pippen and Kukoc had, but very little of their smarts.

[jonnyboy261]

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[-Young Buck-]

Pinnock making the team seems less likely now that the lakers signed Shammond Williams.

[dada]

uh oh look what happend to kobe...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2520373

Damn, and I was pretty excited to see him play some international ball. Oh well. *scraps that idea*

[Laker Socks]

Pippen was much smarter than Odom is, much better playmaker and way, way better scorer.

Slow down. Lamar is a better playmaker than Pippen. Yes, Pippen is much much MUCH smarter, much better defender and scorer but Lamar has the edge in rebounding and playmaking.

Pip can only dream of doing those spectacular passes that Lamar did last season.

[noodle]

Pinnock making the team seems less likely now that the lakers signed Shammond Williams.

Yeah the Lakers have a lot of people on their roster. I think Pinnock is better than Devin Green who is a FA so it a possibility.

[Isaiah]

well i hope Kobe didn't do anything stupid after his surgery