Official Portland Trailblazers Thread - 100% Hedo Free!!

Look 3PK, I'm your friend, Scoop's your friend, and there isn't a single person on this forum that is against you. Most of your posts are legible, but these are professional forums, not MSN chatrooms.

Write full words, and if you have no idea how to spell a word; look it up or don't use it. Also, when people give you advice, don't take it as an insult and get all defensive.

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Anyway, lets drop this stupidity and get back on topic. I have a trade idea.

Jack + 2nd round pick (36th?) + Aldridge for 3rd pick + Marvin Williams

The trade is even as if fills needs for both teams, and the salaries match.

that's a very good idea and i really think it's fair on both teams, but this really comes down to whether the hawks will give away the likes of Conley who could eventually become a great Player if he continues to improve rapidly.

what have u got against me just coz i am a kid who writes slang very often and isn't a super-star speller don't get stuck into me i am just trying to write in these forums which i love so much. plz stop finding ways to get rid of me coz i ain't a great speller or coz i rite too much slang

EDIT: If you check my Pistons dynasty and look at my Recaps i rarely spell words rong coz thats formal it's just to save time and if u don't want me 2 rite slang tell me,coz then i won't

i wrote like this until i realized that a post is displaying your opinion and that its formal writing that is on the net 4 heaps of ppl to read.

Just understand it's not a text message or MSN, it's more like an online debate with lots of agenda's going on at once, for you to take part in. I personally have nothing wrong with the way you type because I can still read it, but once you begin posting with some effort you'll realize it's alot better. I wrote how you do for quite a while.

Lamrock93, I don't think Atlanta should be shopping Marvin, but if they are, it's incredibly stupid. I still believe he's going to be around 25/5/5 guy eventually. They might end up making the same mistake they did with Boris Diaw, except much worse. I seriously believe next year is his breakout year.

The overall deal isn't that bad, they get a solid PG and a promising center. Portland get's the 3rd pick to use on Conley or as trade bait for a proven PG and they also get a player that completely solves their wing problems. It's good for both teams, but it all hangs on Marvin's development. If he turns out to just be a solid role player, Atlanta made the right choice. If he turns out how I'm expecting, Portland is going to win multiple championships within a few years with a Oden/Randolph/Williams/Roy/Conley lineup and a solid bench.

Yeah, thats true; like Darko was everyone's preseason MIP pick this year, Marv will probably be the one for next year.

I think the Hawks are just looking to make the playoffs this season. I think Jack and Aldridge might have a bigger short-term team is they go for Jack and Aldridge, rather than keeping Conley and Williams.

Also, being a guy who doesn't watch college b-ball, I don't get Conley's hype. Going by NBAdraft.net, he is an average passer and a horrible shooter; and is compared to TJ Ford, who isn't a real PG. Could somebody please explain his value; and why he is better than mid-late 1st round projected Acie Law?

Look 3PK, I'm your friend, Scoop's your friend, and there isn't a single person on this forum that is against you. Most of your posts are legible, but these are professional forums, not MSN chatrooms.

Write full words, and if you have no idea how to spell a word; look it up or don't use it. Also, when people give you advice, don't take it as an insult and get all defensive.

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Anyway, lets drop this stupidity and get back on topic. I have a trade idea.

Jack + 2nd round pick (36th?) + Aldridge for 3rd pick + Marvin Williams

The trade is even as if fills needs for both teams, and the salaries match.

that's a very good idea and i really think it's fair on both teams, but this really comes down to whether the hawks will give away the likes of Conley who could eventually become a great Player if he continues to improve rapidly.

i dont like that trade if i am the hawks. it looks even but really its aldridge for the 3rd and williams and i dont see the hawks doing that. the hawks might be able to trade down a couple spots and still get conley, might be thier best bet actually.

anyway as for portland, i think they need to keep the team as it, no major trades yet. i know i have been saying they need a point forever now but i think they play this team to around the trade deadline and see what happens. like stated before oden will probably have alot of games with lessened minutes due to foul trouble so having the extra big will come in handy.

Also, being a guy who doesn't watch college b-ball, I don't get Conley's hype. Going by NBAdraft.net, he is an average passer and a horrible shooter; and is compared to TJ Ford, who isn't a real PG. Could somebody please explain his value; and why he is better than mid-late 1st round projected Acie Law?

I didn't watch many Ohio State games at all, but Conley looked like a real floor leader. Imagine that TJ Ford comparison except TJ physical ability and a mature point guard's calmness, sense and "saavy". That's what I saw. I really didn't even know about him before the college season and I follow High School basketball quite close. He looked like a pretty good defender, and he has decent size. He's rated higher than Acie because he is on Acie's level but he's like 3 years younger. He seemed to have an amazing feel for the game at his age. As for the 'average' passing, thats far from what I saw. I probably watched about 5, maybe 6 OSU games last season and his passing was very, very impressive. He wasn't like Nash with fancy passes that make you think "How'd he do that!?", he just had great timing when passing and got the ball to his teammates when they were right in position to score.

if protland gets channing frye they'll be cgood. I wanted him in live 06 but fuckin bro reformatted m y comp wtf i should stop spamming i'm gbeing so ghey.

Also, being a guy who doesn't watch college b-ball, I don't get Conley's hype. Going by NBAdraft.net, he is an average passer and a horrible shooter; and is compared to TJ Ford, who isn't a real PG. Could somebody please explain his value; and why he is better than mid-late 1st round projected Acie Law?

His high draft stock is mainly about upside since he's still young and the fact that this draft is the weakest for PGs in many years. It can be debated there are no NBA level point guards after Conley at all in this draft. People are divided if Law is athletic enough, and after Law is Crittenton, who got killed in the NCAA much less the NBA.

A team looking for a PG, and there are a ton now that people have seen how a Deron Williams or Chris Paul can turn a bad team around, and how Baron Davis can power a team past the Mavs; may punt entirely this year on PGs and wait for next year with Derrick Rose & OJ Mayo on the board.

Fucken bandwagoners.

i think they should get oden or durant and trade them for a good point guard straight up..

Fucken bandwagoners.

Quoted for truth, justice, and... the sake of quoting.

I think I've decided I don't want Conley here, especially (ESPECIALLY) if it means trading Aldridge. Jack and Sergio will do fine, even better if they bring back Steve Blake so Jack/Blake can split the bulk of minutes at PG and also back up at SG when needed (then Sergio can step in).

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i think they should get oden or durant and trade them for a good point guard straight up..

12ppg,5.3apg,2.6rpg,1.1spg in 33.6 minutes per game is not terrible by any means, especially not for a second-year player (Jack). Definitely not bad enough to justify trading a championship-calibre player that we could get in this draft.

i think they should get oden or durant and trade them for a good point guard straight up..

You're insane.

no no, he is on to something, and luckily the celts got a spare point, or hell take 2. send us oden and you can have any 2 point guards you want. write up the papers

Garh I hate bandwagoners who think they know the Blazers and that trading Zach is the right thing to do.

Garh I hate bandwagoners who think they know the Blazers and that trading Zach is the right thing to do.

What's wrong with taking interest in a team who picks up a great player? Sure, as a new fan, follower, bandwagoner or whatever you want to call it, we don't know the team as well as people who has followed the team for a long time do - but then, why don't you tell us why trading Randolph is a bad idea, instead of blaming us for thinking so?

I have never been a dedeicatd fan of any team, I just consider myself a basketball fan, and like whatever team plays good basketball, or have some interesting players. Why is that a problem? (I don't take your post personal, just using myself as an exampel.)

Jugs dont pretend you didnt bandwagon either the Suns over the last few years or the Warriors during this years playoffs

basketball is run on bandwagoners, its the sad truth. myself i only care about 1 team but i take a interest in every other team in the league also.

likewise i care for only 1 team, but as for others that i loosely follow it's gotta be Orland & Portland.

...but isn't it a bit pretentious to be a die hard Pistons/Blazers fan living in Australia?

Sure there are teams I care for more than others - I have been kind of a Lakers fan since the days of Eddie Jones and and Elden Cambell, but living in Denmark, I can't help feeling it would be a little silly calling myself a dedicated Lakers fan.

Nah...you don't have to live in the same city to be a real fan, what % of NBA's audience actually goes to game? It's tiny...i myself can barely afford to go to a few Bulls games a year (frickin expensive for yourself & a date).

Bandwagoning, IMO, is more people who have a new favorite team just based on who's doing well at the moment.

If someone has been a die hard Bucks fan for 10 years living in Nigeria, more power to them.

Bandwagoning, IMO, is more people who have a new favorite team just based on who's doing well at the moment.

It just seems like a lot of people get offended just because you start taking interest in their team - I have never called myself a Blazers fan, and I haven't seen a lot of people doing that over the past weeks, yet there is a general critique of people who just started posting in the Blazers thread.

The Blazers are in a great position this year, and therefore they will get a lot of attention from people who didn't followed them before - that some of those people will eventually turn into fans should be considered a positive.

How many Blazers fan of today, who doesn't live in the Portland area, can honestly say it wasn't the rise of one of the Blazer-legends who turned them into fans to start with?

but living in Denmark, I can't help feeling it would be a little silly calling myself a dedicated Lakers fan.

Same here, growing up, my room was filled with Bulls memorabilia, jerseys, caps, posters, videos, etc. I loved them. But not once have I felt like a true fan... it just seems weird considering how I don't even live in Chicago.

As for bandwagoning, the other teams I follow are Houston and Denver because my two favorite NBA players play for those teams. I actually hate both of the teams but I always follow guys I love to watch. Seattle is about to be added to that list as well I guess.

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but living in Denmark, I can't help feeling it would be a little silly calling myself a dedicated Lakers fan.


Same here, growing up, my room was filled with Bulls memorabilia, jerseys, caps, posters, videos, etc. I loved them. But not once have I felt like a true fan... it just seems weird considering how I don't even live in Chicago.

Well actually me living in Australia i feel that i am as dedicated as i can be to Detroit watching and taping all games possible, visiting their website every day etc. But the problem is i still don't feel like a true fan considering i have almost 1/2 out of 30 of my mates who follow or play Basketball, as well as the fact i don't live in Detroit and probably never will.

Regarding bandwagoning teams i've got to say i am a dedicated Pistons fan but second, third and fourth favorite teams are Definately Cavs (because i LOVE LeBron and Gibson as well as the occasional Hughes) then Bulls (because they have my favourite player Ben Wallace as well as Gordon, Hinrich and Tyrus) followed by Miami (I love the Shaq and Wade combo)

Garh I hate bandwagoners who think they know the Blazers and that trading Zach is the right thing to do.

don't worry Jugs, the Blazers are not stupid enough to trade away Randolph (or Aldridge for that matter)....

even if they did trade away Kyrptonite

Garh I hate bandwagoners who think they know the Blazers and that trading Zach is the right thing to do.

don't worry Jugs, the Blazers are not stupid enough to trade away Randolph (or Aldridge for that matter)....

even if they did trade away Kyrptonite

Good attitude with a bit less talent > Bad attitude with more talent

I hope Randolph's gone, and so does Kevin Pritchard.

Hmm.. i bet a lot of badwagoners joined up the "We Believe Team"..