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Tue May 29, 2007 8:11 pm

Glad we are on the same page. I really don't know who randolph could be traded for.....Maybe some ideas from other people??


I really don't see him being traded atm considering he was the Blazers only good player this year and it would be stupid for them to get rid of that (taking Roy's good first year out of the picture) Although a few possibillities couldn't be really determined until after the draft because a few spots might be filled then and there is plenty of PF that have great potential for this years draft (Y)

Tue May 29, 2007 9:01 pm

1st of all i don't care about spelling words right it gives me no concern what so ever so stop bringing that up especially u scoop.

:lol: Nancy

Tue May 29, 2007 10:04 pm

If the Blazers have to get rid of someone, it has to be Darius Miles. That guy is the most apathetic player I've seen in ages.

Tue May 29, 2007 10:17 pm

3PK wrote:
Oden has to start. The team would get soooooo much abuse if he didn't get much playing time!!! 3PK, he will not need to get accustomed to the league. Have you ever watched him play?!?! He is a freak! and yeah I agree with Indy, the spelling of accustomed is terrible lol.


1st of all i don't care about spelling words right it gives me no concern what so ever so stop bringing that up


When you start spelling correctly I'm sure people will stop bringing it up. At the moment though it is appalling. Just put in some effort and stop reacting like a knob. It makes it easier for everyone to read your opinion, which is the key concept, rather than us having to spend the time deciphering your babble. If you're going to react like a child every time someone criticises you, then perhaps you shouldn't be here.

Wed May 30, 2007 4:34 pm

I agree with Ty-Land, you will stop being criticised if you start making your posts easier to understand. And if you don't want to fix it and you keep being criticised, then just ignore it. It is easy to do...

Now back on the topic. Its_asdf, I definately agree that Darius has to go, but he has no value right now, so I don't really know if we would get much of a player for him. As for Randolph, we can get a very decent SF or PG and I really want to get rid of him if we draft Oden. Or we could maybe work out a deal with the Hawks and give them maybe Aldridge and Miles for their number and pick and a shit player.........I know the real life trading doesn't work like NBA Live does, so we probably won't be able to get Conley with Oden.....Oh well....

Wed May 30, 2007 6:32 pm

I think it would be stupid to get rid of Aldridge, he is allready a decent player, and could improve intop a really nice side kick to Oden in the post. He is able to hit the mid-range jumper, a skill that Oden will never develop, and thus would compliment him well.

Granted, Randolph can do the same, but he is a 300-pounder waiting to happen. I think the Blazers should trade him while his value is high and he is still healthy.

Wed May 30, 2007 8:15 pm

Well they can't really move Randolph if they want the number 3 pick from Atlanta because of his contract. Still though, why trade in a legit 20/10 player for a rookie who could be at Randolph's level down the track? I have no doubts LaMarcus will be a good player, but if they already have, why risk it?

I heard at the start of the season Zach really worked on getting his weight down and getting focused, and he did just that. The guy is coming off the best season of his still very young career, dropping essentially 24/10/2. How many other players did that? Kevin Garnett didn't. Emeka Okafor didn't. Chris Bosh didn't. Elton Brand didn't. Jermaine O'Neal didn't. Amare Stoudemire didn't. Only Carlos Boozer managed more points than Zach while still grabbing at least 10 boards.

Zach would be great next to Oden, if they keep LaMarcus they will not get Conley and Aldridge will remain on the bench behind to great bigs for at least 3 more years. Why not give Atlanta a steady point guard and a promising young center (two of the biggest needs for Atlanta), for the 3rd pick and a filler?

Of course this is only if Portland really wants Conley.

EDIT: I completely forgot about the fact Atlanta also has the 11th pick, so yes, they could fill both needs there. The thing is, they could get a very steady and ready point guard in Jack, a promising center who would have been a top 3 or 4 pick this season in Aldridge, AND they get the 11th pick which could weild a very nice player in a deep draft like this.

Either way, the Hawks should be much improved.

Thu May 31, 2007 8:22 pm

When you start spelling correctly I'm sure people will stop bringing it up. At the moment though it is appalling. Just put in some effort and stop reacting like a knob. It makes it easier for everyone to read your opinion, which is the key concept, rather than us having to spend the time deciphering your babble. If you're going to react like a child every time someone criticises you, then perhaps you shouldn't be here.


Well i apologise i didn't think it was such an issue and btw i rarely spell words wrong most of the time because i don't like at the key-board when typing it just comes up as an issue for scoop and we are good friends and we have JOKE agruments a lot but fine i will fix up my writing if u feel so upset

P.S. many of my words will b spelt rong coz of slang so u can't take that into account unless you want me to stop riting in slang (Y)

Thu May 31, 2007 8:26 pm

3PK wrote:agruments

That is slang?

Shannon, I just want to have "Oden and Aldridge" or "Oden and Randolph". I dont want "Oden, Aldridge and Randolph" to be on the team. Trade one of Randolph or Aldridge, and get someone good....

Thu May 31, 2007 8:30 pm

3PK wrote:
agruments

That is slang?


Exactly so do u want me to stop riting stuff like that and speak 'Proper' english i think if u only want Oden and either Aldridge or Randolph i say keep Aldridge he is a player that should be good in future years which will mean him and Oden will be probably the NBA's best combo at PF and C and also Randolph could be good trade bait to get a awsum young PG or SF

Thu May 31, 2007 10:16 pm

Scoop wrote:
3PK wrote:agruments

That is slang?

Shannon, I just want to have "Oden and Aldridge" or "Oden and Randolph". I dont want "Oden, Aldridge and Randolph" to be on the team. Trade one of Randolph or Aldridge, and get someone good....

I don't buy that....you don't trade away big for small, especially when the small is unproven Mike Conley Jr....a 3 big man rotation of Randolph, Oden & Aldridge is good....no doubt one of them will be injured at any one time, so it tends to sort itself out....between them, they can play the 48 minutes at C & PF between them....it allows them to be more aggressively defensively, & not have to worry about letting team down....I think the Blazers are doing the right thing in this case....

Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:46 am

its only good to have 3 bigs if you have a point to get them the ball. no one good to get the ball inside in the right situation and its all just a waste.

Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:22 am

putting the reins of the team on such young players with no veteran core is asking for trouble down the line. I'd rather they get a proven pg, though i am not sure who is available, since the right kind of pg's are obviously a commodity. maybe andre miller or knight, but I hate their outside deficiencies.

Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:57 am

i fully agree. i dont think trading for conley is the right way to go unless you are willing to wait 3-4 years to be a contender.

Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:42 pm

I have nothing against Jack or Rodriguez. They are fine. I would rather a SF before getting a PG, it is just because it is Conley and he has some great potential. But a SF is someone I would really like to get. Rashard Lewis please :)

Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:30 pm

Well about ur suggestion of not getting a small for a tall and keeping the three big fellas X i think thats gonna b very tough i wouldn't think neither Randolph or Oden would like to be told they will be playing upto 20 odd minutes on the bench and why wouldn't u trade away one of them get a great SF/PG and have no dilemas this would also increase progression and they wouldn't be unhappy (maybe they should draft Durant and Trade miles for a PG with experiance and skill

Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:13 pm

Scoop wrote:I have nothing against Jack or Rodriguez. They are fine. I would rather a SF before getting a PG, it is just because it is Conley and he has some great potential. But a SF is someone I would really like to get. Rashard Lewis please :)



this makes no sense to me. why would anyone want rashard lewis over a point guard? why would you even want lewis on the team. he will be over paid and take away from the younger players.

Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:29 pm

3PK wrote:Well about ur suggestion of not getting a small for a tall and keeping the three big fellas X i think thats gonna b very tough i wouldn't think neither Randolph or Oden would like to be told they will be playing upto 20 odd minutes on the bench and why wouldn't u trade away one of them get a great SF/PG and have no dilemas this would also increase progression and they wouldn't be unhappy (maybe they should draft Durant and Trade miles for a PG with experiance and skill

there is 96 minutes to divvy up between the C & PF spots, so that works out to 32 minutes per player....Randolph would likely play about 35-36 minutes, so that leaves Oden & Aldridge each playing 30 minutes per game, which seems about right....Oden will also likely encounter foul trouble at time in his rookie season....I don't think Oden (& to a lesser extent Aldridge) are the types of guys that will complain about playing 30+ minutes per night....if they're playing well, they'll play 40 minutes, if they're not, it'll be more like 25 minutes....there is definitely enough minutes to go around between those 3, provided we don't add guys like Pryz-bizz to the mix....

the main point I was trying to make is that I would like to see how the team gels first & how the players play together before dealing out a talented big for a young, unproven, over-rated PG....

Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:43 pm

The X wrote:
3PK wrote:Well about ur suggestion of not getting a small for a tall and keeping the three big fellas X i think thats gonna b very tough i wouldn't think neither Randolph or Oden would like to be told they will be playing upto 20 odd minutes on the bench and why wouldn't u trade away one of them get a great SF/PG and have no dilemas this would also increase progression and they wouldn't be unhappy (maybe they should draft Durant and Trade miles for a PG with experiance and skill

there is 96 minutes to divvy up between the C & PF spots, so that works out to 32 minutes per player....Randolph would likely play about 35-36 minutes, so that leaves Oden & Aldridge each playing 30 minutes per game, which seems about right....Oden will also likely encounter foul trouble at time in his rookie season....I don't think Oden (& to a lesser extent Aldridge) are the types of guys that will complain about playing 30+ minutes per night....if they're playing well, they'll play 40 minutes, if they're not, it'll be more like 25 minutes....there is definitely enough minutes to go around between those 3, provided we don't add guys like Pryz-bizz to the mix....

the main point I was trying to make is that I would like to see how the team gels first & how the players play together before dealing out a talented big for a young, unproven, over-rated PG....



no way would i trade any of the 3 for the 3rd pick like alot of people are suggesting. i would keep the 3 personally til near the trade deadline and do like you said, see how they all gel first. never know maybe they can nab a quality pg during the offseason and keep all 3 bigs

Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:30 am

no way would i trade any of the 3 for the 3rd pick like alot of people are suggesting. i would keep the 3 personally til near the trade deadline and do like you said, see how they all gel first. never know maybe they can nab a quality pg during the offseason and keep all 3 bigs


Well actaully when i thought about it for a bit i thought of what would be a great idea keep the 3 (this is if they draft oden) then i think Miles is just not the right guy Randolph, oden and Aldridge need some help they're not going to win just from the inside with roy on the outside scoring they need an assist maker i think get rid of Miles who is yet to prove he is worthy of a starting SF position in the NBA and get rid of Jack as well for a Bibby type player or even Terry that can shoot, score and most importantly run the offence if they do this they can then play Outlaw and Odoka at SF which would IMO make a good team,

C- Oden/ Aldridge
PF- Randolph/ Aldridge
SF- Udoka/ Outlaw
SG- Roy
PG- Bibby/terry/Rodriguz

Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:53 pm

I doubt you'd get a guy of Bibby or Jet Terry's caliber for Darius Miles..

Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:22 pm

True but what i meant is a trade including Jack, Miles and maybe 2 of there 4 second round pics and maybe not someone that gud possiblly like A. Miller or sumtin

Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:08 pm

3PK wrote: many of my words will b spelt rong coz of slang so u can't take that into account unless you want me to stop riting in slang (Y)


I don't buy that. Seeing I am Australian and speak very colloquially I can tell the difference between slang and just a lack of effort in spelling and grammar. If you can't type, then don't post, especially if you are going to be a smartarse when people are trying to give you advice so you can be a positive member of this community. Is that too much to ask...

:surrender:

Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:15 pm

I don't buy that. Seeing I am Australian and speak very colloquially I can tell the difference between slang and just a lack of effort in spelling and grammar. If you can't type, then don't post, especially if you are going to be a smartarse when people are trying to give you advice so you can be a positive member of this community. Is that too much to ask...


what have u got against me just coz i am a kid who writes slang very often and isn't a super-star speller don't get stuck into me i am just trying to write in these forums which i love so much. plz stop finding ways to get rid of me coz i ain't a great speller or coz i rite too much slang

EDIT: If you check my Pistons dynasty and look at my Recaps i rarely spell words rong coz thats formal it's just to save time and if u don't want me 2 rite slang tell me,coz then i won't

Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:44 pm

Look 3PK, I'm your friend, Scoop's your friend, and there isn't a single person on this forum that is against you. Most of your posts are legible, but these are professional forums, not MSN chatrooms.

Write full words, and if you have no idea how to spell a word; look it up or don't use it. Also, when people give you advice, don't take it as an insult and get all defensive.

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Anyway, lets drop this stupidity and get back on topic. I have a trade idea.

Jack + 2nd round pick (36th?) + Aldridge for 3rd pick + Marvin Williams

The trade is even as if fills needs for both teams, and the salaries match.
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