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Postby BOSS on Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:01 am

Its_asdf wrote:
SG:Peterson/telfair/Denham Brown (Draft)


Telfair is purely a point guard, he's too small and too weak to play SG. Besides, why would Portland give up their future point guard in a draft that isn't necessarily strong?

Sadly, Alvin Williams is also never going to play again, so scratch him off for being a third stringer.


Ye he is a pure point guard.
Seems like they playing Blake more than him lately and Jack has been steppin up lately as well.

But ye man what you think bout the JO trade rumour?
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Postby iKe7in on Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:16 am

If he had a better track record in terms of health and behavior, and if his contract wasn't so gigantic, I would say yes. But thats not the case with JO, so I say no. I'd rather keep the pick and take Aldridge or Morrison.
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Postby Its_asdf on Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:35 am

But ye man what you think bout the JO trade rumour?


It's absolute bogus. I don't believe a thing of that rumour and Colangelo's not stupid enough to acquire another power foward since Bosh plays so similarly to O'Neal.
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Postby [C][B]#4 on Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:38 am

^Ditto. That will hurt not only Bosh's development, but the Raptor's salary cap as well. Also, that would make the team stocked w/ power fowards: JO, Bosh, Villanueva, Bonner, Humphries.
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Postby Cable on Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:56 am

It's not going to happen. I can see Colangelo making a trade, but not that one.

On a side note, if the Pacers trade O'Neal and draft Morrison, Indy'll be furious because Granger won't get as much PT. :P
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Postby Its_asdf on Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:04 am

Indy'll be furious because Granger won't get as much PT.


Hell, I'd be pissed if Granger didn't get any time. :x That guy is the shiz

Who thinks the Raps should trade down? No one in this draft really interests me, I'd be thoroughly happy if we could package our first round pick and Eric Williams for a lower pick and a decent player or a big man.
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Postby Cable on Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:10 am

*raises hand*

I'd like to see some kind of deal to get hold of a serviceable center, or at the very least, a point-guard. I think a trade for a decent player isn't the best idea, we need to fill some pretty big holes in the line-up.
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Postby cyanide on Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:15 am

I don't see why the Raptors have to go immediate contenders. They got way too many young guys. If they're gonna go young, might as well get one more youngster to complete the starting 5 of youngsters that'll develop and grow, and from on we'll acquire veterans to fill the voids.

Note: The above does not take into account of player demands for huge contracts or trades. Just wishful thinking, really.
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Postby Stevesanity on Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:55 pm

Theirs rumors that the Raps are looking at Pau Gasol. Check hoopshype!

One of the rumors from Toronto has been that the Raptors would add a veteran inside player to ease the burden on Bosh and try to be a playoff team immediately. Memphis' Pau Gasol has been mentioned, and one could make a case for the Grizzlies trying to get younger and save some money with an ownership change apparently imminent. The other rumor is a deal for the Pacers' O'Neal, who could be the kind of low-post presence to ease the strain on Bosh.
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Postby BOSS on Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:24 pm

Ye I saw this earlier.
So many damn rumors.
They all bullshit to me.
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Postby BOSS on Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:36 am

More rumours anyone ?

Toronto And Charlotte Talking Pick Swap
13th June, 2006 - 9:45 am

DraftExpress.com - According to DraftExpress.com, the Toronto Raptors and Charlotte Bobcats are talking about a trade where the top pick in the draft goes to Charlotte along with Alvin Williams for the third pick and Brevin Knight.

It is being suggested that teams are looking to move up to the top spot to select Adam Morrison.


I like this trade.

Raptors Like Shelden Williams
13th June, 2006 - 11:38 am

TheStar.com - In an online column by Toronto Star sports writer Doug Smith, he states that before the Raptors won the lottery that they watched him workout twice in one week and liked what they saw.

If the Raptors were to trade down in the draft to the mid-lottery, he would be a player that they would look long and hard at.
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Postby Its_asdf on Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:59 am

I wouldn't mind the Alvin Williams/Brevin Knight swap that includes picks. Knight seems like a pretty good passing point guard and adresses one of Chris Bosh's wants.
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Postby Cable on Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:31 am

I'm not going to give any of these rumours credit. It's only because Colangelo is here now and everyone knows he's going to shake the team up, I doubt most of them are credible.
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Postby Abctest123 on Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:07 am

Its_asdf wrote:I wouldn't mind the Alvin Williams/Brevin Knight swap that includes picks. Knight seems like a pretty good passing point guard and adresses one of Chris Bosh's wants.


havent seen brevin knight play enough to say much bout him, other than just stats. His stats for assists per turnover are excellent and he gets a good amount of assists. Heard his jumper isnt great though. Anyways, are his assists and steals good ones, or really pointless ones, like non "game changing" ones that just happen (ie. Knight just hands it off to some other guy, and he just hits a random shot)? Sorry if this question doesnt make sense.
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Postby [L3]1101 on Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:17 am

I haven't seen him play a lot either, but from what i hear, he's a pass first PG. Not only he passes, he's a great passer. He doesn't have a lot of offensive weapons, but he can still score. I still remember a game where he got 20 assists. I think he is the exact opposite of Mike James. I don't mind this trade at all. We pretty much don't lose anything, and we also get rid of Alvin's contract(though i'm gonna miss him).
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Postby AI_MVP on Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:49 am

yee getiin brevin knight would be really good n 3rd pick is styll good too its not too low
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Postby iKe7in on Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:35 pm

If someone would take Alvin's contract off our hands I'd be willing drop down even further, and third is even better. We'll still end up with Bargnani (most likely), or maybe we could trade down even further and pick up some more depth and get someone like Marcus Williams at 8 or 9.
How about this scenario:
TOR trades 1st pick, Alvin to CHA for 3rd pick, Knight + future second
TOR trades 3rd pick + Mike James to HOU for 8th pick+Future 1st+Bob Sura
Select M. Williams with 8th pick

Hows that sound? Houston is free to sign James for as much as they want, and they get a much higher pick, Charlotte gets their guy and gives all the minutes to Felton, and we end up with loads of insurance at point guard, some future picks, and more cap room to make runs at big men free agents or freedom in the trrade market to look for a big man (Magloire?) I think we could easily get Magloire for a future first, Eric Williams and maybe someon like Ukic or Humphries, and we would still ahve the cap room to make a run at someone like Lorenzon wright or Chris Wilcox. So a lineup going into next year could look like:

Magloire/Wright
Bosh/Bonner/Sow
Villenueva/Graham
Peterson/Sura
Knight/M. Williams/Calderon

I know it won't happen, like any of these other rmours, but agian, its fun to play GM.
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Postby [L3]1101 on Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:01 pm

We can't trade Mike James, he's a FA. We'll have to do a sign and trade before we trade him, which we can't do til July 1st or something. So including mike james in any deal before the draft is impossible.

But i agree that we can move down even further, and I'm all for drafting Marcus Williams. He'll be a good fit.
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Postby afgshady on Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:27 am

ChicagoSports.com wrote:I heard rumblings from the Raptors after a visit to Toronto that Chris Bosh wants out of TO if the Raptors do not draft LA. Aldridge. But the Raptors are very interested in Andrea Bargnani. I guess they have an Italian Asst. GM that is pressing Colangelo to draft Bargnani. I think Bosh could force their hand and make TO trade him to the Bulls for Chandler, Gordon, and the Knicks pick next year. This way we get Bosh, Aldridge, and the 16th pick


This is one of the biggest crap i ever heard. Bulls must be dreaming the worst rumor i ever heard

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com ... -headlines
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Postby Cable on Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:34 am

:lol: Wtf? Now I know how Riot feels when people say KG wants out. That right there is bullshit, Bosh has said many, many times that he's staying at least until his new contract runs out, probably longer. Another point; why would he leave if we've just gotten Colangelo and can realistically be a play-off team within three years if we do it right?
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Postby [L3]1101 on Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:07 pm

yes BS indeed. i don't believe a word of that article.

Bosh agreed to resign with the Rapts way before we got the #1 pick. Before we got #1, it was pretty hard to believe we had a shot at Aldridge. So Bosh's decision to resign had nothing to do with the draft pick(or Aldridge).

And yes we will be a play off team in a couple of years, if not next year.
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Postby Matthew on Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:09 pm

Cable Guy wrote::lol: Wtf? Now I know how Riot feels when people say KG wants out. That right there is bullshit, Bosh has said many, many times that he's staying at least until his new contract runs out, probably longer. Another point; why would he leave if we've just gotten Colangelo and can realistically be a play-off team within three years if we do it right?

We? I guess you accept responsability for the raptors bad play as well.
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Postby Abctest123 on Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:24 pm

Matthew wrote:
Cable Guy wrote::lol: Wtf? Now I know how Riot feels when people say KG wants out. That right there is bullshit, Bosh has said many, many times that he's staying at least until his new contract runs out, probably longer. Another point; why would he leave if we've just gotten Colangelo and can realistically be a play-off team within three years if we do it right?

We? I guess you accept responsability for the raptors bad play as well.

oh come on, dont be THAT stingy. then again, its cable guy so you can be picky at his typing and grammar as he is with other's typing and grammar :lol: .
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Postby Cable on Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:15 pm

Ah, fuck off. When your team's good, it's 'we', when they're bad, it's 'them'. It's an unwritten rule, don't you know that? :P
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Postby BOSS on Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:14 am

Raptors A Good Fit, Aldridge Says
17th June, 2006 - 5:50 am

Toronto Star - LaMarcus Aldridge came away from his private workout with the Toronto Raptors feeling good that he could fit in well with the team, the Toronto Star is reporting. The Raptors hold the first overall pick in the June 28 draft.

"I think I'm a very active player, a very mobile player," Aldridge said over the phone after working out at the Air Canada Centre yesterday. "I think I play my best when the team's getting up and down the floor."

According to several NBA scouts, Aldridge has a more NBA-ready game than Bargnani and is probably just behind Gonzaga's Adam Morrison among the top draft prospects in being able to immediately help whichever team takes him on June 28. But those same scouts say both Aldridge and Bargnani have much more room to improve than Morrison does and either might be a better long-term prospect.


He said that about chicago too =\
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