Official Toronto Raptors Thread.

Damn it. I knew they were going to lose. I hope they win 2 of the next 3, but against NJ, it is unlikely. Oh well. I'm just glad they made the playoffs. If they do fail to comeback and win the series, Nets will get murdered by the Cavs anyway.

Playoff inexperience hurt the Raptors. Everybody didn't play well except for TJ, Calderon and to a certain extent, Bosh and Parker.

Even though TJ did a good job scoring, it was too much Me-J. When Calderon came in, he did everything he can to find open players rather than try to create a shot for himself like what TJ did, and Calderon brought the Raptors back in the 4th. It was ugly defensively and offensively.

Jason Kidd was brilliant. I wish TJ can do what Kidd did, and that's to find open guys, and to shoot when open rather than dribble all over the place to create his own shot.

Raptors need to gain playoff experience fast if they want to win the series.

dammit!! TJ needs to get shot!! I'd rather play Calderon too..

TJ needs to get shot!!

You win the Inappropriate Hyperbole of the Week award.

TJ needs to get shot!!

You win the Inappropriate Hyperbole of the Week award.

yah seriously, completely inappropriate man

Bad game all around today. Next game is a must win

gg-raptors--too wack------NETS IN 5!!!!!

If they had Kristic and Jefferson all season.......THey wont even win the divsion str8 up no doubt.....Nets V Pistons IN EAST FINALS.........

RAPS has bosh and a bunch of role players
Nets has The BIG 3 and better bench....BOGIE!!!! NETS IN 5 . IF NETS WIN GAME 2.......THIS SERIES IS OVER

IF NETS WIN GAME 2.......THIS SERIES IS OVER

Really? I didn't knew the series was to the best-of-3.

Nets has The BIG 3 and better bench....BOGIE!!!! NETS IN 5 . IF NETS WIN GAME 2.......THIS SERIES IS OVER

Actually, I'd say the Raptors have the better bench. Not today, though.

Vince and the Nets 1 - Raps' red army of idiots 0 (time for all of them to grow up.. like VC said it's been over 3 years)

BTW: I agree with Matt, Chuck Swirsky should be in a madhouse, and Mike Ulmer should rot in hell


Too bad for Parker, he's my second favorite player in the league...

Nets has The BIG 3 and better bench....BOGIE!!!! NETS IN 5 . IF NETS WIN GAME 2.......THIS SERIES IS OVER

Actually, I'd say the Raptors have the better bench. Not today, though.

Have to disagree. Nachbar, House, Boone, or Marcus Williams can all get hot coming off the bench. Nachbar was the game changer in game one, hit the three that put the Nets up for good.

Don't forget Clif who is great in both sides of the court and Wright who had a good game against the Raptors

If only Krstic was healthy too.. the Nets would have a great chance at the finals.

why all of a sudden this became a nets thread?

gg-raptors--too wack------NETS IN 5!!!!!

If they had Kristic and Jefferson all season.......THey wont even win the divsion str8 up no doubt.....Nets V Pistons IN EAST FINALS.........

RAPS has bosh and a bunch of role players
Nets has The BIG 3 and better bench....BOGIE!!!! NETS IN 5 . IF NETS WIN GAME 2.......THIS SERIES IS OVER

Your mother would be proud. I guess Nets fans really know when to rub it in...


Anyway, with homecourt advantage gone, the Raptors have to win the next game or I think the chances of them winning the series will become extremely slim. The Raps have lost both times to the Nets at their homecourt this season. A good sign for the Raptors was that they were able to battle back and played the more controlled pace that the Raptors played during the regular season near the end of the game. Hopefully that can carry on to game two.

To be honest, I could care less if the Raptors lost the series, because the team is young and to get the third seed with the core group of players so young (Ford, Bosh, Bargs) will only better them for next season. I'm happy simply for the fact that the Raptors are able to get that taste of the playoffs to keep both the fans and themselves on the right track.

Nets has The BIG 3 and better bench....BOGIE!!!! NETS IN 5 . IF NETS WIN GAME 2.......THIS SERIES IS OVER

Actually, I'd say the Raptors have the better bench. Not today, though.

Have to disagree. Nachbar, House, Boone, or Marcus Williams can all get hot coming off the bench. Nachbar was the game changer in game one, hit the three that put the Nets up for good.

Calderon>Williams
Graham>Nachbar (Lets not forget, Graham is only starting because Garbo is out)
Mopete/Dixon>House
Hump=Boone
Bargnani>Anyone on your bench

I hate to break it to you, but Boki is way better than Graham. Graham simply doesn't assert himself enough to be a force off the bench. If only he he knew how to dribble the damn ball.... Plus Nachbar is more offensively well-rounded.

Raps' red army of idiots 0[(time for all of them to grow up.. like VC said it's been over 3 years

Was that necessary? To generalize the whole Raptors fanbase as a bunch of idiots? Although a small part of me wants to see this team stick it to Vince, I do think it is time to move on once this series is done with (but I can't blame those who have a bad taste in their mouth with the WAY Carter left). Good on your team for winning Game 1.

And to those who (yosifun and NJNETSFANFORLIFE) actually think the Nets would actually easily make it to the finals (for you yosifun, I'm not sure which final your talking about, Championship, or Eastern), you really think with a healthy current Nets squad you can make it there IF you have or had (cyanide or Cable, correct me on which one should be used ) to go through Detroit, Miami or Chicago, or Cleveland? Give me a break.

Let's hope the Raptors can get the bad out of their system for next game and the whole series, win Game 2, and battle it out. Get the jitters and nervousness out and do the good things that made the team the Atlantic Division Champions in the rest of the playoffs.

Last edited by Abctest123 on Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:40 am, edited 2 times in total.

I hate to break it to you, but Boki is way better than Graham. Graham simply doesn't assert himself enough to be a force off the bench. If only he he knew how to dribble the damn ball.... Plus Nachbar is more offensively well-rounded.

Normally I'd agree with you. The way I see it, these Nets fans are basing these comparisons on how the players have been playing recently. Going by that, Graham has been the better player. Don't let game one cloud your judgment, yes it was bad, infact horrific but Graham has done a more than stellar job stepping up for Garbo. Nachbar has played terrific this season there is no question, but this is still the same player that has bounced around the league for several seasons now.

That said, even if we go by your assessment, our bench is still superior to the Nets bench

Raps' red army of idiots 0[(time for all of them to grow up.. like VC said it's been over 3 years

Was that necessary? To generalize the whole Raptors fanbase as a bunch of idiots? Although a small part of me wants to see this team stick it to Vince, I do think it is time to move on once this series is done with (but I can't blame those who have a bad taste in their mouth with the WAY Carter left). Good on your team for winning Game 1.

And to those who (yosifun and NJNETSFANFORLIFE) actually think the Nets would actually easily make it to the finals (for you yosifun, I'm not sure which final your talking about, Championship, or Eastern), you really think with you're healthy squad you can make it there IF you have or had (cyanide or Cable, correct me on which one should be used ) to go through Detroit, Miami or Chicago, or Cleveland? Give me a break.

Let's hope the Raptors can get the bad out of their system for next game and the whole series, win Game 2, and battle it out. Get the jitters and nervousness out and do the good things that made the team the Atlantic Division Champions in the rest of the playoffs.

Yosi has a problem with the Raptors and the fans, ignore him

I hate to break it to you, but Boki is way better than Graham. Graham simply doesn't assert himself enough to be a force off the bench. If only he he knew how to dribble the damn ball.... Plus Nachbar is more offensively well-rounded.

Normally I'd agree with you. The way I see it, these Nets fans are basing these comparisons on how the players have been playing recently. Going by that, Graham has been the better player. Don't let game one cloud your judgment, yes it was bad, infact horrific but Graham has done a more than stellar job stepping up for Garbo. Nachbar has played terrific this season there is no question, but this is still the same player that has bounced around the league for several seasons now.

That said, even if we go by your assessment, our bench is still superior to the Nets bench

I haven't been basing my point off of the playoff game, I'm talking about the entire season in general.

It's true that in the latter half of the season Graham played extremely well. But I don't think you've looked at Nachbar's performance with the Nets this season. He's been giving them bench production on a nightly basis, which is something Graham hasn't done.

Don't get me wrong, the last thing I want to do is hate on the guy, but Graham can make it difficult to root for him sometimes. I'm hoping that his late season run will carry on to next season.

you really think with a healthy current Nets squad you can make it there IF you have or had (cyanide or Cable, correct me on which one should be used )

Sure ... it actually depends on what you're trying to say; both can be right. I think you're probably thinking of 'have' because it's still a future event.

And I'm with asdf here, Joey-G is good and all, but Nachbar's been playing amazing this year. I'd much rather have him right now over Graham. Give it a few years though and we'll see ...

Sam Mitchell is coach of the year, officially tomorrow.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... _the_year/

Sam didn't deserve it. Sloan is once again, robbed.

Sam didn't deserve it. Sloan is once again, robbed.

How can you say Mitchell didnt deserve it? The improvement we made, was much greater than any improvement the Jazz made. Same took 9, well actually 10 new players if you ionclude Dixon, over the course of one season and turn the team around 180 degrees. Ofcourse people are going to say that those moves were Colangelo's and not Mitchell and you would be 100% corret but if the team didn't respect Sam and work for Same, those moves would be all for not.

Now, Joey G. I never once said that Graham's year has been better than Nachbar's but what I meant was that Nachbar has had only one good season, that being this one. Joey is still young and has shown he can be a better player than Nachbar has been through his career.

Sam Mitchell simply isn't a good coach. How many times have you seen the guy make horrid substitutions, make terrible plays out of time-outs and I've honestly never seen Mitchell run anything more complex than a simple pick and roll at the top of the circle. Good motivational skills and able to get the team behind his ideals? Yes. But everything else is clearly a no for me.

Everyone seems to be sold that Mitchell's a good coach, but I'm sorry I haven't bought into it yet. Until I see more off-ball movement in his offensive sets and learn how to run a half-decent zone offence, I can't compare him to the Van Gundys, Sloans, Avery Johnsons and any other coach that was nominated for COY.

By the way, Graham (1982) is two years younger than Boki (1980). And while Nachbar has strung together a nice season for himself Graham has only been able to play at a high level for a few games at a time, so I don't really know why you brought all of this potential talk into the discussion. If anything, Joey Graham hasn't shown much at all.

I agree with asdf that Mitchell is a horrible coach, the improvement in the team is because of tha players ability to play really good and colangelo putting them together, sam is just good at making guys want to practice and give them spirt i guess, its evident he cant coach in the games against dallas and phoeniz that happened in toronto, we could have easily won the game but the dumbass drew up ths tupidest play to end the game he made martin take the last shot who the fuck does that hes an idiot