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Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:34 am
CBSSports wrote:The Dallas Mavericks have reached an agreement with Houston Rockets restricted free agent Chandler Parsons on a three-year offer sheet for more than $45 million.
Isn't that a bit too much? I hope Cubes knows what he's doing.
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jenz on Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:27 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:43 am
It remains to be seen whether or not Houston will match, especially if Bosh isn't in a rush to make a decision. If he's unwilling to make a commitment, do the Rockets risk losing out on both players and let Parsons go in the hopes that they can still get a deal done with Bosh, or do they match the offer so that they don't come away empty-handed?
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:53 am
Cuban knows what he's doing, he's getting a 6'9 white Jason Terry. The Mavs Terry and not the Celtics/Nets Terry.
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:57 am
Andrew wrote:It remains to be seen whether or not Houston will match
Yeah, title may have been vague. It's been edited accordingly.
I've read that prior to him signing offer sheet with Mavs, Rockets and Parsons were not able to reach an agreement. Maybe Rockets are not willing to sign him at that price tag. I think Bosh would take his time before signing with Houston or any team for that matter. So decision would eventually fall in the hands of Houston management.
velvet bliss wrote:Cuban knows what he's doing, he's getting a 6'9 white Jason Terry. The Mavs Terry and not the Celtics/Nets Terry.
Perfect. Then he can become the Mavs Peja Stojakovic when he's older.
Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:49 am
It sounds like it'll actually come down to LeBron and how quickly he makes a decision, with Bosh taking the Rockets' offer ($88 million over 4 years, last I read) if LeBron doesn't stay in Miami.
Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:02 pm
From what I understood, this was a whole NY/Jeremy Lin "we'll resign him at all costs" deal. They declined his option so they would be able to match any offers and planned on doing that
The only thing shocking at this point would be if they went through all that trouble to let him go instead of getting one more cheap year out of him
Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:09 pm
I thought that they declined his option to give them the flexibility to pursue top free agents, while retaining the ability to match any offer sheet if everything else fell through.
Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:25 pm
That's right. They retain the ability to sign him (match other offers) even after going over the salary cap.
Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:29 pm
They could also end up with both, but Bosh would need to sign first.
Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:58 pm
And that's what Donnie Nelson/Mark Cuban is using to try and screw Houston's strategy. Now they'll have to lure Bosh or another good player within 72 hours. If they fail to do so, they could match the offer to Parsons and have no chance of landing another star given the remaining salary cap or let him go and risk not being able to sign a star caliber player at all. I just realized that's a very smart move on the Mavs part. they either get Parsons or leave them with the same cap room they have before the offer.
Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:51 pm
Houston is only a contingency plan to Bosh. He's stated that he wants to continue playing with LBJ and there is no deal in place at the moment between Bosh and Rockets. It seems the Mavericks(stupidly imo) pushed the Rockets into the corner as they could end up paying Parsons superstar money when Dirk gave up great money to lure the superstar.
Personally, I would pass on this kid at that price tag. He's getting paid way too much. You already have two superstars in Dwight and Harden. There are lots of ways to go from there. You can go depth and upgrade at couple positions, or you could go for another star. You just don't want to pay someone expandable superstar money and limit your options.
Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:13 pm
I'm not quite sure if Parsons is worth Dirk signing that discounted contract. $10M/yr for Dirk and $15M/yr on Parsons just does not seem right.
Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:50 pm
NovU wrote:Personally, I would pass on this kid at that price tag. He's getting paid way too much. You already have two superstars in Dwight and Harden. There are lots of ways to go from there. You can go depth and upgrade at couple positions, or you could go for another star. You just don't want to pay someone expandable superstar money and limit your options.
Well, I agree. It's a hefty price tag. Rockets would handcuff themselves with a max contract for Parsons. Same with Bosh. He isn't worth 80+ mio over 4 years. If the Rockets sign either of them to a max contract, they'll end up with a bench like that one Miami assembled last season.
Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:04 pm
NovU wrote:You just don't want to pay someone expandable superstar money and limit your options.
Like Miami did ?
Parsons brings a lot to the table. I find him like the glue guy, much like Batum.
Batum is getting paid 11 mil. to be the third option.
15 is pricey, but I'd still rather go after Parsons than end up with nothing valuable, like Posh.
Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:00 pm
mandich wrote:NovU wrote:You just don't want to pay someone expandable superstar money and limit your options.
Like Miami did ?
Of whom?
Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:49 pm
NovU wrote:mandich wrote:NovU wrote:You just don't want to pay someone expandable superstar money and limit your options.
Like Miami did ?
Of whom?
Chris Bosh. They couldn't move anything around, and could've invested that money in something better.
Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:27 pm
Bosh was
a GREAT investment despite the flaws. Do you think the Heat should have signed Stoudemire, or Boozer instead?
Parsons is a slightly above average player with shaky defense. You want to pay him near max on his potential, fine. I will disagree.
Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:01 pm
Actually his defense is rather good. Not spectacular, but slightly above average. He played so much in his rookie season mainly because of his defense. You have a guy that's playing almost 38 mpg a night, is the 3rd scoring option in his team, is actually a good playmaker with 4 apg who also rebounds and shoots alright, it's imaginable that he'll not be the teams best defensive wing on every given night, which he anyway is. I said it's pricey, but Parsons isn't just potential and is a far better signing than Bosh at the moment.
Bosh cemented the team and it's ability to make significant moves around the roster. A 6'10 softy who gets eaten on the low block shouldn't be worth that kind of money. Especially how he gets pummeled by the better centers in the NBA.
Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:32 pm
It's almost stupid to see someone arguing that Chandler's defense is good while Bosh's bad. Realize Bosh played out of his life long natural position and protected mid for one of the top defensive teams in the league. Even with Dwight and Asik, the Rockets struggled to death because their perimeter defense didn't exist. Unsurprisingly the Rockets' defense improved without him on the floor by 2.4 pts per 100 possessions.
I'm not going further into this discussion because it's just stupid. But I will tell you this. Bosh was a superstar when he signed with the Heat and was well worth the contract. Parsons is far from a superstar and very doubtful to live up to the money he's about to receive. This is no brainer.
Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:43 pm
I'll blame Lebron if the offer sheet isn't matched.
Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:44 pm
Bosh was a superstar when he signed with the Heat and was well worth the contract.
Who cares what he was ffs, you're running away from the argument.
Will you fucking listen to me when I say I'd rather see them spend that money on Parsons then Bosh? Bosh is still a weakness on the low block and Parsons is a good defender (Lin, Harden?)
Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:00 am
I'm actually not running away from anything but I honestly would rather avoid absurdity.
mandich wrote:Who cares what he was ffs, you're running away from the argument.
You did, you silly.
mandich wrote:NovU wrote:You just don't want to pay someone expandable superstar money and limit your options.
Like Miami did ?
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NovU on Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:06 am
Fine by me.
If you'd sign an 30 year old big man(and you could probably get Gasol much cheaper) who can't establish himself on the low block over a 25 year old all-arounder, that's your call.
I'll let you walk on this one...your favorite team is falling apart, your favorite player is a cripple and your leader could leave you, so I understand you're a bit shocked and can't think straight.
Get well soon.
Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:08 am
I actually don't care about your point. In case you forgot, main focal point of this stupid discussion was you challenging legitimacy of Bosh's 2010 signing.
Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:10 am
NovU wrote: main focal point of this stupid discussion was you challenging legitimacy of Bosh's 2010 signing.

Fuck your comprehension is a bit off. As the topic suggests, it's the signing of Parsons.
Really, get well soon.
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