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Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:23 pm

http://nypost.com/2014/03/11/phil-jacks ... -principle

Phil Jackson has reached an agreement in principle to oversee the Knicks basketball operations and “president’’ will be in his title, according to a league source.
All that’s left is the lawyers finalizing the last contract details by week’s end before Jackson officially returns to the organization that drafted him and where he won two titles as a player.
The Post has learned Jackson gave the Knicks a verbal commitment on Saturday. The Garden still will not comment on Jackson’s status.
Knicks president/general manager Steve Mills will remain on board in a revised role and work with Jackson.


So will this one kill the Melo going elsewhere rumor then?

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:53 pm

This has to be music to ears to the Knicks fans. Phil Jackson won't like Dolan interfering in his business and will try to build the team his way. It will take some time to clear up the Dolan's mess though.

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:08 pm

Steve Kerr supposedly being his protege for coach

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:01 pm

It remains to be seen whether Jackson is capable of having the same kind of success in the front office as he did on the sidelines. However, as writers like Adrian Wojnarowski have pointed out, that may be neither here nor there. If Dolan is going to interfere and undermine, then it doesn't matter who the Knicks hire; chances are, their success is going to be limited by his meddling.

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:52 am

Damn, so this is happening afterall...bye bye to any Melo to the Bulls talks, and I'll be torn when the Knicks play Chicago, especially if my man Steve Kerr is the head coach :|

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:17 am

Donnie Walsh was promised autonomy and look what happened. Dolan stuck his nose in the Anthony negotiations, blew up Walsh's long term plan and forced Walsh out. Why would it be any different under Jackson? Phil's working for a hotheaded, spoiled, rich man's son who thinks he knows how to run a franchise.

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:25 am

Jeffx wrote:Phil's working for a hotheaded, spoiled, rich man's son who thinks he knows how to run a franchise.

Jimmy & James should hang out together.

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:30 am

Jeffx wrote:Donnie Walsh was promised autonomy and look what happened. Dolan stuck his nose in the Anthony negotiations, blew up Walsh's long term plan and forced Walsh out. Why would it be any different under Jackson? Phil's working for a hotheaded, spoiled, rich man's son who thinks he knows how to run a franchise.


With all due respect to Donnie Walsh and his accomplishments, Jackson is still a bigger "name" in NBA circles, so there might be a slightly better chance of him actually having the clout he's promised. It does still seem highly unlikely, though.

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:30 am

Of course Phil has to take orders from Dolan at the end of the day but his influence should be greater than past Knicks window managers considering his strong repute and respect he's earned throughout. Phil doesn't look like a push over either.

But this doesn't guarantee anything. Successful coach shouldn't necessarily translate into success as a GM. Anything that goes right or wrong will be on Phil, less on Dolan from this day on.

Phil's taking over the mess though. It's going to be awhile before we can judge anyone or anything.

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:27 pm

Jackal wrote:
Jeffx wrote:Phil's working for a hotheaded, spoiled, rich man's son who thinks he knows how to run a franchise.

Jimmy & James should hang out together.

probably made Jimmy more hotheaded that Phil was banging his hot sister too :hump:

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:47 pm

Phil Jackson still trying to prove he's better than Red Auerbach, being a coach and GM who won with and built multiple championship teams.

Maybe Jackson will pull a Kevin McHale and trade away Melo to the Bulls like KG to the Celtics.

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:36 pm

NovU wrote:Phil's taking over the mess though. It's going to be awhile before we can judge anyone or anything.

Like no playoffs while?

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:17 am

Hopefully Anthony stays put in NY now. Although if he went to the Bulls it wouldn't be a bad thing either.

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:12 am

SoF'nAwesome wrote:
NovU wrote:Phil's taking over the mess though. It's going to be awhile before we can judge anyone or anything.

Like no playoffs while?

It's more about the outlook. Phil come in as a GM for vast underachievers and what does he have? He has no picks, tied to bad contracts, no salary to sign significant FA, no flexibility, has no young talent to look forward to. He has limited options to make this team better for imminent future. He's in a tough situation to contend nor to rebuild.

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:55 am

I guess you're right about the Knicks' current situation. In 2014/15 the Knicks have a total of $ 45,753,363 to spend for Amar'e (a productive bench player but not worth $ 23,410,988), Andrea (who would better fit with a WNBA team), J.R. Smith (PER 12.7) and Felton (PER 12.5).
Maybe Phil can work some miracles and get rid of Amar'e's and Andrea's expiring contracts during the coming off-season...

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:10 am

If Phil can break the hold CAA has on Dolan and this organization, it'll be a good thing. From everything I've read, it was CAA who convinced Dolan to trade for Bargnani. Grunwald was pushed out because he was against it. Same for Walsh and the Anthony deal.

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:19 am

LOL@ that press conference, shutting out the Daily News reporters. Why? For telling it like it is about Dolan? Yeah, the culture has changed at MSG.

I'm taking a 'wait-and-see' approach to the Jackson hire. I don't trust Dolan at all. You are what you are.

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:06 pm

Dolan reminds me a lot of my boss. He assembles the right people with the proper knowledge and strategies, but ruins everything because he can't lay back and let those people just do the work they are hired for.
Result is all the same, either you quit out of frustration or you get fired...

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:22 pm

Your clients are your boss as they are the ones that pay you. People offer you a job to fight for their parking tickets, not to hear your whining. Now can we resume talking about your possible employment on my speeding ticket case?

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:29 pm

I'm not working as a lawyer right now, so I'm not permitted to have clients at the moment.
I got a job at the German Civil Aviation Authority two and a half months ago...

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:59 am

lolz NovU, you didn't pay that damn fine yet? :P

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:30 am

Nope. I figured I won't be driving in California for awhile so... :evil:

SteveHTOWN wrote:I'm not working as a lawyer right now, so I'm not permitted to have clients at the moment.
I got a job at the German Civil Aviation Authority two and a half months ago...

Isn't lawyer guaranteed six figure job(in usd currency) in Germany and quite possibly better career path? What is this job so special that you gave up being a lawyer? :shock:

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:03 am

Problem is, you have way too many lawyers in Germany and I wouldn't even been close to a $-six-figure-income. My current job within the legal adminstration pays me more money. I have more spare time and more days off per year. My income is getting better every year AND I'm becoming a specialist on the field of civil aviation administration, which is knowledge I could also use as a lawyer or within a company... if I wanted to...

Btt: Anyone betting against my assumption that Melo will stay with the Knicks?!

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:36 am

SteveHTOWN wrote:Btt: Anyone betting against my assumption that Melo will stay with the Knicks?!

I am. There is no reason for him to stay at Knicks. They aren't going to be a contender for the Finals for at least another 2 seasons. And by that time, the prime time for Melo might be over. A Bulls with Rose & Noah(Boozer out) or Rockets with Beard & Superman is much sensible & attractive for a player who badly wants a ring. My money is on the Rockets. But then again, how will Harden fit into the play then?

Phil Jackson can say all he wants, but Melo is leaving.

Re: Phil Jackson reach agreement with the Knicks

Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:21 am

I don't know, from a couple of the comments he's made, Melo does seem quite enthusiastic about Jackson coming on board. A few things would have to fall into place for the Bulls or Rockets to be able to sign him; I'm not sure that ends up happening, or that he's definitely on the way out. I wouldn't be shocked if he stays.
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