Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

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Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby Fresh8 on Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:28 pm

Read what he had to say here...

Jealous much?

But I must say that Jennings does have his own point and I am looking forward to seeing how he does as a rookie. He better walk the walk if he wants to talk the talk. What I hear is that Jennings is a talented attacking player but could work on his defense and playmaking mentality. In contrast, Rubio is the quintessential play maker/team mate. He just needs to add a jumper. Though he is quite good looking and probably has large testicles, i would draft him #2


Will be interesting to see if these guys will develop some kind of rivalry once they make it into the pros.

I believe these are the Top 2 PGs in the upcoming draft. What do you all think about Jenning's comments on Rubio?
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby shadowgrin on Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:42 pm

Sit wrote:Jennings is a talented attacking player but could work on his defense and playmaking mentality. In contrast, Rubio is the quintessential play maker/team mate. He just needs to add a jumper and defense.

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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby Its_asdf on Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:55 pm

Yeah, so this arrogant talk is definitely going to boost his draft stock...
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby The X on Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:25 pm

This all comes only a few days after saying that Jrue Holiday & Tyreke Evans don't have what it takes to be NBA PG's....Jennings might do alright in NBA in a couple of years time, but fact is he couldn't cut it in Euro League, whereas Rubio could....
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby Lamrock on Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:26 pm

Rubio is going to be a superstar. Jennings is a bust in the making that'll fall out of the lottery at this rate.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby The X on Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:40 pm

He's saying Rubio is overhyped, Jennings is the king of overhyped as he has done NOTHING.

Jenning's stats in Europe were about 6ppg on 38% FG, 23% 3Pt, 70% FT, 1.5rpg, 2apg, 1.5spg, 1.5TOpg in about 18min/game.

Rubio's stats in Europe were about 8.5ppg on 38% FG, 36% 3Pt, 75% FT, 2.5rpg, 5.5apg, 2spg, 3TOpg in about 22min/game.

So Rubio seemed to short the 3-ball a lot better, was a better distributer, but didn't take as good as care of the ball. Rubio causes more havoc on defence & in passing lanes as well. I also rate Spanish league higher than Italian.

Based on stats, they both need a lot of time & work, but both are young.

EDIT: I forgot to include PER stats. Jennings was about 12.5 & Rubio's is about 20.5 :P
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby Andrew on Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:29 pm

I suppose you've got to admire his confidence, but if brashness equalled greatness than Stephon Marbury would be a multi-time NBA champion, or at least somewhere in the "current players who will go down as all-time greats" discussion. If he wants to start a war of the words then that's his right, but he better back it up by making it in the NBA otherwise his legacy will be rather unflattering.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby Modifly on Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:41 pm

I'm going to go with Rubio here. I dont think Jennings will be able to make it through in the NBA as a superstar. An average player perhaps, but for some reason I have a feeling that Rubio will really be able to make an impact in the NBA. This trash talking over Rubio is probably to boost his stock value in the upcoming draft and to have some psychological effect on Rubio? I dont know, but he better show that he's the type of player he claims to be otherwise the only thing that's going to be big about him is his mouth.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby jonthefon on Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:01 pm

Stupid of Jennings to run his mouth like that. It's more likely to drop his stock than boost it, you don't want an asshole rookie for a high pick.

I guess he has a point though, I would argue Rubio's kinda overhyped but still, he's incredibly talented. He's going to be at least a very good player if he can adjust to the NBA...like Sarunas Jasikevicius never did.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby dopeboy on Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:46 pm

I think that Rubio will adjust to the NBA pretty quickly, since he's used to play against bigger, stronger and more experienced players in Spain. If Jennings wants to start this trash talking, he better starts doing something to prove his opinion.. Jennings doesn't look like he should play in the same league with Ty Lawson and others mentioned at this point.. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'll stick with my opinion. Although Childress doesn't play particulary well in Europe either..
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby J@3 on Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:12 pm

Brandon Jennings is just a used car salesman with a jump shot. This sort of thing is lame, you'd have thought a year playing pro ball overseas would make him grow up but apparently not.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby Angelo on Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:17 pm

I would go with Ricky Rubio cuz this kid can really play he reminds me of pistol pete and some similarities from steve nash..Jennings is lame he reminds me of Corey Brewer
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby jonthefon on Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:41 pm

Wish Jennings wasn't such a dumbass that he couldn't get into college.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby Martti. on Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:08 pm

I actually agree with Jennings on this one. I watched a DKV Joventot game and Rubio came in for like 4-5 minutes and it didn't show that "Oh yeah, that's and NBA all-star". Of course in the Olympics, he played great. But only in a few games.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby dopeboy on Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:25 pm

You can't take few games as an example. Rubio reminds me a bit of Nash and Calderon, and only thing that really separates him from Jennings, is athletic abilities. Neither Nash or Calderon have them, besides Rubio has shown more potential as a prospect.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby shadowgrin on Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:51 pm

And potential is the Viagra of the NBA come Draft day.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby vinceair on Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:52 pm

Rubio is fast,nothing else.Very slow jumpshot release.First NBA season will be like 5.0 ppg and couple assists.Yeah he is super fast,but when you put body against him he falls.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby Fresh8 on Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:00 am

Rubio's ballhandling skills are superb and he has great awareness on both ends of the floor. From what I have seen, he works hard on defence and is just a pest. What is a knock against him is a lack of a reliable jumpshot and that he is not strong enough. I have not seen Jennings play but I have followed how he has been doing.

From what I have read, Jennings was a ballhog in High School, had no regard for passing to anyone and was a shoot first, shoot second kind of player. The reason he has not been able to cut it in Euroleague may be because of age but apparantly he is talented but lacks the 'team' mentality needed to play in that kind of league. If Jennings was handed the reigns to an NBA team as starting PG, he may succeed but the team wouldn't. That's the impression I get from Jennings.

Both guys are young and are not going to be sure-fire stars when they enter the league. But I think that Jennings should keep his mouth shut. It's his opinion I guess, so if he wants to share - go ahead. As I said, he better be able to back it up.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby dopeboy on Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:27 am

Besides, Rubio is excellent passer and he works hard instead of trash talking about other draftees.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby Fresh8 on Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:38 am

Although Childress doesn't play particulary well in Europe either..


Childress actually did alright. I think with lots of these guys, it's just learning a whole new way of playing basketball. We all know the NBA is pretty much focused on the stars. In Europe, it's much more team-orientated and you have a handful of guys scoring double figures every night.

On topic of Childress, some people expected him to 'dominate' for some reason. I guess it just proves that basketball has grown globally over the past 2 decades. That's a good thing.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby J@3 on Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:59 am

We all know the NBA is pretty much focused on the stars. In Europe, it's much more team-orientated and you have a handful of guys scoring double figures every night.


I think with Childress it may have been the reverse. He was one of the better team guys in the league last season, I'd imagine in Europe he'd be alot more of a "go-to" guy in their system than he was in the L, that'd be a tough adjustment in itself.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby shadowgrin on Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:26 am

IIRC from what I read, Childress was mostly used as a defender in Europe so there wasn't much hoopla of him dominating the league, add to it that the defense played outside the NBA is different and much similar to international rules so it's also an adjustment itself in doing his supposed role.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby Andrew on Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:10 am

jonthefon wrote:Stupid of Jennings to run his mouth like that. It's more likely to drop his stock than boost it, you don't want an asshole rookie for a high pick.

I guess he has a point though, I would argue Rubio's kinda overhyped but still, he's incredibly talented. He's going to be at least a very good player if he can adjust to the NBA...like Sarunas Jasikevicius never did.


In all fairness he probably does have a point, but I think your first sentence summed up the bigger issue here. It's tacky for him to come out and say that and as Jae said, doesn't show a lot of maturity.
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby Fresh8 on Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:50 am

shadowgrin wrote:IIRC from what I read, Childress was mostly used as a defender in Europe so there wasn't much hoopla of him dominating the league, add to it that the defense played outside the NBA is different and much similar to international rules so it's also an adjustment itself in doing his supposed role.


Childress commented that he had to adjust to the slower and more physical play in the Greek league. From what I had seen, he had adjusted by the end of the season as he was scoring in double figures on a more consistent basis. At the start, he was very erratic and also was not used to being the subject of the media, who followed him everywhere when he first got there. Anyone on these forums see him play in Europe?
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Re: Brandon Jennings RE: Ricky Rubio

Postby Oskar on Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:20 am

Since when is Rubio's defense bad ? He's a really good defender actually.
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