2008 PBA Finals: (1) Air21 vs (3) Bgy. Ginebra

[Billie]

I will go for Ginebra because I do not want to have a PBA season with teams like Sta.Lucia and Air21, two of the most boring teams in the history of the PBA, to have the two trophies this year.

[Lean]

To be frank I follow the PBA only when it's the Philippine Cup. But I'm glad the imports aren't scoring that much in the games I read on paper. Honestly I don't follow it much nowadays.

And since San Miguel changed its name to Magnolia I felt robbed.

[shadowgrin]

I go with Ginebra. Always do.
Eric Menk's back in the team playing, in a good and bad way. Good, he's still dependable for scoring. Bad, he scores by shooting outside shots instead of banging inside.
Even with Ginebra's 34-point blowout loss in game 2, the way the import Chris Alexander is playing like Tim Duncan (unbelievable as it may seem), Ginera's going to win it in the long run, as long as Caguioa and Helterbrand don't hog the ball and play some semblance of defense.

Sta.Lucia and Air21, two of the most boring teams in the history of the PBA

I guess you haven't been paying attention to Arwind Santos.
Just wait when KG Cañaleta is back from his injury. Him and Santos should be enjoyable to watch.

[Lean]

I followed Air21 before since they were almost the Cinderella-story team in 2006 with Shawn Daniels as import. They finished third in that particular conference. But it sucks to see Ritualo (then in Air21) shooting like a trigger-happy guy. Forces a lot to be the next Caidic.

[Null17]

Not much of a PBA fan but Arwind and KG are two of my favorites so I'm rooting for them.

[jenz]

i go with ginebra.. simply because i'm an ginebra fan.

last night's game 2 was just awful.. ginebra turned the ball over like hell.. helterbrand failing to get a hold of himself.. it really sucked.. now i'm expecting (more of hoping) for a comeback next game.

[shadowgrin]

Caguioa being in foul trouble was the end of them.

[jenz]

^ yeah. and as what you've said, eric menk. he really need to step his game up. i can still remember the last time they've won the all-filipino cup. he with hatfield were the dominant wingmen back then IMO. if he'll be able to get back to his MVP groove, i don't see a way on how air21 would still be able to keep up with them.

off topic: once i took a glimpse at channel 4 during heir sports news. it was said by the host that hatfield has sent a filler to the team management informing them that he'll be able to play next season. but this isn't yet confirmed. i fucking hope this is true.

[Lean]

Wow, Canaleta was brilliant last night. Hitting threes when it's needed the most. Amazing performance.

[dansensei]

now air21 is up 2-1. ginebra really missed jayjay's offense during that game..

[Billie]

Tough loss for Ginebra last night. Good thing that they have a pretty serious excuse in the absence of Helterbrand. I still go for Ginebra though I'm not really a ginebra fan. Air21 got lucky this time, if not for the KG 3s they could have not win last night's game.

now air21 is up 2-1. ginebra really missed jayjay's offense during that game..

not just his offense but his playmaking skills which is more important.

off topic: once i took a glimpse at channel 4 during heir sports news. it was said by the host that hatfield has sent a filler to the team management informing them that he'll be able to play next season. but this isn't yet confirmed. i fucking hope this is true.

he may be having a financial problem in the states that's why.

Sta.Lucia and Air21, two of the most boring teams in the history of the PBA

I guess you haven't been paying attention to Arwind Santos.
Just wait when KG Cañaleta is back from his injury. Him and Santos should be enjoyable to watch.

they have wynne arboleda and homer se.

[Billie]

Ginebra..champions.

[jenz]

...eric menk...if he'll be able to get back to his MVP groove, i don't see a way on how air21 would still be able to keep up with them.

i just had to quote that. he really got his rhythm and made air21 pay for letting espinas and kramer guard him. they just haven't got the experience to prevent him from salvaging ginebra for the championship.

[Billie]

Vintage Menk..congratulations to all the Ginebra fanatics out there.

[deihatein]

Air 21 shouldn't loss that game because of Arwind Santos stupid decision. He is shooting the ball like there is no tomorrow, damn him . Anyway, Menk was really great in that game 7 series, now I know why he his a former MVP and he and tupid(tubid) shouldn't have shared that Finals MVP. If only Caguoia played great .

I want a Purefoods vs Ginebra matchup

[Billie]

I thought Artadi will win the Finals MVP award..i'm a purefoods fan since kid hehe..i know you are a big big game james fan too..

[shadowgrin]

Air 21 shouldn't loss that game because of Arwind Santos stupid decision. He is shooting the ball like there is no tomorrow, damn him . Anyway, Menk was really great in that game 7 series, now I know why he his a former MVP and he and tupid(tubid) shouldn't have shared that Finals MVP. If only Caguoia played great .

What Menk showed in game 7 hardly compares to what he's actually capable of doing. Erik Menk going against Asi Taulava during their PBL days shows how much of a monster he used to be, even as compared to his MVP season in the PBA.
Menk went down the Chris Webber path, really good at the low post then started to settle for damn jumpshots as his career went by, even though he's still capable of doing it down low.

Tubid played his supposed role silently and efficiently during the whole series in filling the scoring slack of an injured Caguioa. I do wish he would grow back that beard he had during his Shell days, he looked kewl.

[Billie]

yeah..you should also reminisce the eric menk..sonny alvarado days..

[shadowgrin]

Sonny Alvarado was a fraud, so I refuse to reminisce him.

[Billie]

or is a fraud..

[shadowgrin]

He stopped pretending to be Pinoy when he got caught, so "was" is the right one to use.
Grammar nazi.

[Billie]

i'm not looking at your grammar..i'm not kinokong..

[deihatein]

Air 21 shouldn't loss that game because of Arwind Santos stupid decision. He is shooting the ball like there is no tomorrow, damn him . Anyway, Menk was really great in that game 7 series, now I know why he his a former MVP and he and tupid(tubid) shouldn't have shared that Finals MVP. If only Caguoia played great .

What Menk showed in game 7 hardly compares to what he's actually capable of doing. Erik Menk going against Asi Taulava during their PBL days shows how much of a monster he used to be, even as compared to his MVP season in the PBA.
Menk went down the Chris Webber path, really good at the low post then started to settle for damn jumpshots as his career went by, even though he's still capable of doing it down low.

Tubid played his supposed role silently and efficiently during the whole series in filling the scoring slack of an injured Caguioa. I do wish he would grow back that beard he had during his Shell days, he looked kewl.

I am not a Ginebra fan so I dont see Menk play that much. Yeah, I know Tubid played well with Caguioa injured but I dont like him because of his mayabang attitude

By the way, when will the All-Filipino conference start? And since ABC(lol for changing their name TV 5)stop airing the PBA, do you think it will now show to cables?

[Lean]

I heard Solar Sports got the broadcast rights of the PBA. So that Game 7 could be the last game shown on free TV. Hopefully they show the games on C/S.

On Tubid, I used to idolize him when he's still "The Saint" and not as "The Rocket."

[jenz]

Yeah, I know Tubid played well with Caguioa injured but I dont like him because of his mayabang attitude

as long as he is an efficient scorer and flopper, i don't see any problem with him.

I heard Solar Sports got the broadcast rights of the PBA. So that Game 7 could be the last game shown on free TV. Hopefully they show the games on C/S.

actually, yes, i think channel 9 would be the one to show the games.