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Tim Thomas On Stephon Marbury

Postby Clueminati017 on Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:49 pm

Tim Thomas seemed to be speaking for all of his teammates when the Knicks forward was asked about a certain exiled point guard making an appearance at Tuesday's game in Los Angeles.

"Who gives a shit," Thomas said. "We're trying to establish ourselves as a team and get better. If he wants to be here just to get some attention, that's on him."

Stephon Marbury was a Hollywood scene-stealer during the Knicks' dramatic 116-114 loss to the Lakers. On a night when Nate Robinson nearly outdueled Kobe Bryant and the Knicks came within one shot of posting their best win of the season, Marbury's presence cast a shadow over an organization trying to distance itself from the controversial veteran.

Marbury purchased a courtside ticket even though Knicks president Donnie Walsh ordered the veteran guard to stay away from practices and games until he is either traded or released. He spent much of the night talking on his cell phone and sending text messages. Marbury was in a jovial mood yet looked somewhat uncomfortable, especially since none of his teammates acknowledged him or even claimed to have seen him.

"I guess he was a face in the crowd," Quentin Richardson said. "Hey, I hope he enjoyed it. It was a good game."

Marbury's release - via a buyout - is not expected to take place until after Jan.1. During a halftime interview, Marbury revealed that he already has several suitors lined up to sign him, which would give him a chance to salvage his career and repair his reputation. He may even end up in the playoffs, which is exactly where the Knicks expect to be in April without him.

Back-to-back losses to Phoenix and Los Angeles left the Knicks with an 11-14 record going into tomorrow's home game against Milwaukee. Being three games under .500 is not a great accomplishment, but it is a decent mark considering the Knicks are learning a new system and have pulled off two significant trades this season. Opposing coaches and players are impressed that D'Antoni has the Knicks playing hard, playing together and sharing the ball.

"They execute so well," Bryant said. "They move the ball, they play with great pace. They're getting the system. It's coming."

Richardson calls the Knicks "a work in progress," which is another way of saying they haven't learned how to win close games, especially on the road. Their failure to execute in the final minutes against the Suns and Lakers cost them dearly. On Tuesday, they held a 15-point halftime lead before their legs gave out.

"We still have some growing to do, some maturing to do," Richardson said. "But we're not far off. We still have to work really hard to get where we need to go. We're competing, we're playing really well. And most importantly we're having fun. We're enjoying each other, laughing, smiling; guys aren't fussing with one another. We have good chemistry."

D'Antoni's personality is rubbing off on the players, but maybe Marbury's absence also has had a positive impact on the club. It may even help ticket sales at the Garden, assuming Marbury plans to keep attending games as a fan.

"To be honest, when he was traveling with us we still had the same atmosphere," Richardson said. "We were playing the same and treating each other the same whether he was here or not."


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Re: Tim Thomas On Stephon Marbury

Postby Andrew on Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:55 pm

Can't blame them for feeling that way. If there truly are a lot of teams lining up to sign him once he's released then that surprises me. I would've thought teams would've been turned off by his antics and lingering reputation but he remains a talented player capable of having at least a few more good years in the NBA, so perhaps those teams - if they exist - feel that the potential reward is worth the risk.
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Re: Tim Thomas On Stephon Marbury

Postby Modifly on Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:26 pm

Andrew wrote:If there truly are a lot of teams lining up to sign him once he's released then that surprises me. I would've thought teams would've been turned off by his antics and lingering reputation but he remains a talented player capable of having at least a few more good years in the NBA


in my opinion, Starbury was just boasting in order to make himself looks good right there. Useless though, he dug a hole too deep for himself to climb back up. His reputation couldn't get any worse, although there's a high chance that people might lend him another chance if he actually starts to behave sensibly on and off the court. First thing first, he gotta think twice before he open his mouth.
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Re: Tim Thomas On Stephon Marbury

Postby Doobie on Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:29 pm

I met Tim Thomas once, he was kind of a jerk.

Anyways this situation is getting a bit out of control. I honestly hope the Knicks just waive him and let him leave, we need a change in the whole scenario.
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Re: Tim Thomas On Stephon Marbury

Postby Andrew on Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:37 pm

It's gone on way too long, I read that they're waiting until January 1st but that just invites more of these incidents and prolongs the process of distancing themselves from Marbury.
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Re: Tim Thomas On Stephon Marbury

Postby Fresh8 on Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:41 pm

I don't know why but I want to see Starbury waived and succeed with the team that signs him...
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Re: Tim Thomas On Stephon Marbury

Postby Jackal on Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:56 pm

Sit wrote:I don't know why but I want to see Starbury waived and succeed with the team that signs him...


That's because you have a track record of liking total dicks. Just figured I'd tell you why, since you said "I don't know why."
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Re: Tim Thomas On Stephon Marbury

Postby Fresh8 on Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:30 pm

Jackal wrote:That's because you have a track record of liking total dicks. Just figured I'd tell you why, since you said "I don't know why."


Hmm, I don't think that's the reason but sure. :)
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Re: Tim Thomas On Stephon Marbury

Postby Andrew on Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:50 pm

I wouldn't take outright delight in Marbury having difficulty catching on elsewhere or failing to find further success in the NBA but if that's the way it goes down then I don't think he's got anyone to blame but himself. He's in a business where even the most talented players can crash and burn, at some point his reputation is going to catch up with him.
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Re: Tim Thomas On Stephon Marbury

Postby Fresh8 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:00 pm

I don't feel sorry for him but I think it would be unique story if he did something with himself on a new team. Sort of like the Ben Cousin's story. No matter how much of a dickhead he might apparently be, I know people will be rooting for him. Maybe it's the Aussie culture, rooting for the underdog.
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Re: Tim Thomas On Stephon Marbury

Postby Mandich on Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:59 am

From what I've seen, Thomas is an ass. If he is an professional athlete he can't talk shit around. I remember once when he finished an AND1, he jumped on the table where the commentators are and he started dancing :applaud:
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Re: Tim Thomas On Stephon Marbury

Postby Andrew on Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:52 pm

Sit wrote:I don't feel sorry for him but I think it would be unique story if he did something with himself on a new team. Sort of like the Ben Cousin's story. No matter how much of a dickhead he might apparently be, I know people will be rooting for him. Maybe it's the Aussie culture, rooting for the underdog.


There certainly will be, he seem to have garnered some support this year after seemingly being disowned by everyone but his most diehard fans. Maybe it is the whole appreciation for the underdog, but it still surprises me as he hasn't really changed his tune from the one that put so many people off in the first place.
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Re: Tim Thomas On Stephon Marbury

Postby Jeffx on Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:16 pm

mandich wrote:From what I've seen, Thomas is an ass. If he is an professional athlete he can't talk shit around. I remember once when he finished an AND1, he jumped on the table where the commentators are and he started dancing :applaud:



Even though he's right about 'Starbury', Tim Thomas is the classic definition of "underachiever". This cat has all the skills to be great, but he never put it together.

Eventually, Marbury will sign with another team. Dude can still give you 20 points and 8 assists, but over time he'll wear out his welcome.
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Re: Tim Thomas On Stephon Marbury

Postby Andrew on Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:19 pm

I could still see his career coming to an abrupt halt a la Isaiah Rider though. He unquestionably has talent, but how long will another team (or teams) put up with the baggage? I think players can get away with it for a while when they're young and talented (not that Marbury is knocking on retirement's door at the age of 31) but eventually when it becomes clear that their attitude and issues aren't something they'll grow out of, the patience isn't there.
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