expansion draft

by **bballer22** on Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:26 am

can some1 explain to me how that works, what pick will the hcarlote get?? how does it all work??

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Mar 26, 2003 4:36 pm

Because Charlotte is the lone expansion team this time around, it will get all the picks. Only expansion teams select players in an expansion draft.

The other 29 teams will be able to protect 8 players. This way, Charlotte cannot take the Shaqs, Kobes, KGs, Duncansand T-Macs from the other teams. Of course, teams like Portland will probably end up losing a good player or two anyway.

Expansion drafts are basically held to help out expansion teams in the first year, meaning they can pick up players with NBA experience, hopefully gaining a couple of average to good players in the process. Expansion teams in their first year generally comprise of a few decent young players who might be able to produce given the minutes, a couple of veterans who are past their prime but will have one last shot at being a go to guy, and some experienced players (4, 5 year pros) who haven't done much but didn't get much playing time on their old teams.

And at the very least, they have something that other teams might possibly want to trade for, instead of 12 CBA/NBDL callups.

Speaking of the NBDL, that might come into play with the expansion draft come 2004/2005. Anyone hear anything about that?

by **alexboom** on Wed Mar 26, 2003 6:15 pm

eerh ... Charlotte may have restrictions on salary cap during the first years no ? And I think they couldn't take the first pick during some years too ? like Toronto and Vancouver when they started in NBA ?

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:29 pm

They'll have cap restrictions and restrictions in the regular NBA draft...but they'll be the only team picking in the expansion draft. :wink:

by **Rens** on Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:36 pm

I think it was because the Magic got the 1st pick 2 years in a row that expansion teams can't get the #1 pick in their first 3 (?) years. Could be first 5 too.
Expansion teams tend to suck their first few seasons, so this is to decrease their increased chance at a high lottery pick.

by **Venom** on Thu Mar 27, 2003 1:41 am

no...because orlando got the 1st two years in a row,they increased the chances for bad teams

by **TheBob** on Thu Mar 27, 2003 8:04 am

I might be wrong but I'd heard that there will be no draft restrictions on Charlotte like there were for Toronto and Vancouver.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Thu Mar 27, 2003 11:31 am

no...because orlando got the 1st two years in a row,they increased the chances for bad teams

They did that, but Rens is right as well, they did place restrictions on Vancouver and Toronto. If I remember rightly, Toronto won the 1996 Draft Lottery, but per the restrictions they actually received the 2nd pick (Philadelphia received the first pick, and selected Iverson).

I might be wrong but I'd heard that there will be no draft restrictions on Charlotte like there were for Toronto and Vancouver.

A sign of the times. Orlando had just snared Shaq and Webber (dealt for Penny of course) in the space of a year, these days it seems less likely that the top pick will be the best player in the draft and an instant superstar. LeBron James will make the 2003 Draft an exception.

Still, I'd be surprised if the league gave the Hornets the top pick of the 2004 draft.

by **Nick** on Thu Mar 27, 2003 4:53 pm

Is there a limit to how many players Charlotte can take from one team?

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Thu Mar 27, 2003 6:10 pm

I haven't heard of any restrictions, but that would seem to be a fair and logical rule (especially since teams can only protect 8 players - when the Raptors and Grizzlies entered the NBA in 1995, teams could protect 9 players).

by **Rens** on Fri Mar 28, 2003 6:19 am

I think it's one player a team?

by **bballer22** on Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:19 am

what i meant when i asked trhe qestion was how does it actualy work??
what do charloter get a player form every team?? and what does it mean a team can protect 8 plyers??

by **scubilete** on Fri Mar 28, 2003 10:35 am

When said a team can protect 8 players is that they choose the 8 most important players or the 8 players they want to keep, the rest of the team would be available for the expansion team to choose the players they want to get.

by **Colin** on Fri Mar 28, 2003 10:45 am

That's why temas with a bench hate expansion drafts, because a team, for example Sac, could loose Scot Pollard or turkolglu if they protected the starters, Keon, and bobby and Jim Jackson.

by **alexboom** on Fri Mar 28, 2003 5:16 pm

sacramento won't be fool enough to keep jim jackson (if he's still there in the expansion draft) instead of hidayet turkoglu.

that's right that some teams like portland could loose a good mid level player or a prospect but the expansion draft in 1996 didn't change the level of any teams

by **bballer22** on Fri Mar 28, 2003 11:03 pm

but thats is a bit unfair?? especialy for the kings.... but also could be a good thing to get rid of players...

what i want to know is how come nothing changed in '96 and
what draft pick will they get in the actual draft?

by **alexboom** on Sat Mar 29, 2003 12:23 am

even with the expansion draft the new teams remains bad. without that, the team won't even reach 10 victories the first year.

and there's no rotation that have more than 8 keys players. the 4 other are only role players, even if they have good skills

by **Gaucho** on Sat Mar 29, 2003 1:54 am

maybe we can get rid of Fortson contract!! yoohooo!
Gilbert, J-Rich, Tawn, Murph, Foyle and Dunleavy will be protected for sure, that leaves me 2 more spots, Welsch and Damp (he has a huge contract as well) have 50/50 chances of being em.

About Kings I'd let Divac or Pollard go (nyone that doesn't mean they will get selected) and keep Keon, about Jackson/Turkoglu is pretty clear. Jim will keep going around the league.

by **Venom** on Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:48 am

I doubt they will let Divac go...he doesn't have great numbers this year(or last),his presence is more important

by **hetoft** on Sat Mar 29, 2003 4:28 am

I think Sac will let Mateen Cleaves and Damon Jones go... let's see!

And for my team, the Knicks:
Well, Houston and Spree are definate keepers... and Kurt Thomas, Howard Eisley, Othella Harrington, Shandon Anderson and Charlie Ward are keepers too, i think... 1 more... let's say Clarence Weatherspoon.

by **alexboom** on Sat Mar 29, 2003 4:32 am

i'm sure that there won't be any "big names" not protected. It was the same in 1996 rumors were talking about Scottie Pippen or Anthony Mason and at last who did they get ? Greg Anthony for Vancouver and Sharone Wright for Toronto

by **scubilete** on Sat Mar 29, 2003 9:22 am

Indi could decide not to protect Mercer, Dallas could decide not to protect Van Exel & the Wolves shouldn't protect J. Smith. Not always the teams decide to keep the best players, they also have in mind the future of the team and the contract of those players.

by **alexboom** on Sat Mar 29, 2003 7:28 pm

this is exactly the kind of rumors there were in 1996, and finally no big player was released so I don't trust at all with all of that.
Charlotte will only pick mid level players

by **Rens** on Sun Mar 30, 2003 1:54 am

Alexboy wrote:i'm sure that there won't be any "big names" not protected. It was the same in 1996 rumors were talking about Scottie Pippen or Anthony Mason and at last who did they get ? Greg Anthony for Vancouver and Sharone Wright for Toronto

The Raptors traded Ed Pickney and Tony Massenburg along with the rights to swap picks in 96 and 97 and a 2nd rounder for Sharone Wright (awful deal...) this happened on 22 februari 1996, so not exactly the expansion draft.

by **Venom** on Sun Mar 30, 2003 8:01 am

yeah,but the difference now is that teams are trying to save as much money as possible...so i think some "big" names with bad contracts won't be protected

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