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Paul Pierce: Brooklyn situation was "horrible" and kids these days don't get it

Postby benji on Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:51 pm

According to Nets sources last June, Pierce initially wanted $20m over 2 years to remain in "horrible" situation. NO doubt most of what Pierce has said is accurate but he did want to stay and wanted a lot of money.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12690 ... eaks-truth
"I'm much happier,'' he said. "It was a tough situation (in Brooklyn) last year. Horrible, really.

"It was just the guys' attitudes there. It wasn't like we were surrounded by a bunch of young guys. They were vets who didn't want to play and didn't want to practice. I was looking around saying, 'What's this?' Kevin (Garnett) and I had to pick them up every day in practice.

"If me and Kevin weren't there, that team would have folded up. That team would have packed it in. We kept them going each and every day.''

The player that puzzled him the most, said Pierce, was point guard Deron Williams.

"Before I got there, I looked at Deron as an MVP candidate,'' Pierce said. "But I felt once we got there, that's not what he wanted to be. He just didn't want that.

"I think a lot of the pressure got to him sometimes. This was his first time in the national spotlight. The media in Utah is not the same as the media in New York, so that can wear on some people. I think it really affected him.''

Pierce said veteran Joe Johnson was an affable professional but also a reluctant leader.

"Joe is quiet,'' Pierce noted. "He doesn't want much attention. He doesn't say much.

"There's a lot of secondary guys on that team. KG and I went there looking at them as the main guys who would push us, because we were advancing in years. But we ended up doing all the pushing.''

"I would have stayed in Brooklyn because of Kevin,'' Pierce said. "I told him, 'I don't really like this situation but I would never leave you if you want me to stay.' But they decided not to re-sign me so I never had to make a choice. I would never have left Kevin like that.''

Garnett was traded in February to Minnesota, where he will eventually assume a front-office role as a part-owner.

"He's happy,'' Pierce said. "I'm glad he waived his no-trade clause. I told him, 'They don't appreciate you in Brooklyn, man.' They didn't even use him right.

"He's where he's supposed to be. He IS Minnesota. He never sold his house there.''

"I talk to them a lot about mental preparation and consistency,'' Pierce said. "I keep telling Wall and Beal, 'You've got to make up your mind. Do you want to be good, or do you want to be great? Because if you want to be great, you gotta do it every single night, not just when you feel like it.'

"Both of those guys have the potential to be great. I love them. But sometimes I'm not sure they realize what it takes.

"That was (Rajon) Rondo's problem, too. Some days he did, some days he didn't. I think it's more this generation. A lot of these players have been catered to since the sixth grade. The NBA is changing so much. It's not like when I came up, with that old-school mentality that practice really mattered. You've got these 24, 25 year old guys who sit out of practice now to rest. It's hard for me to understand, but I'm trying.''

Pierce was sidelined for three games with an injured toe, but the true cause, he said, was to rest a sprained right knee he has been slogging through for a month. In his previous six games before he finally took a seat, Pierce was shooting just 25.6 percent from the field and averaging single digits.

The Wizards plugged in former No. 3 pick Otto Porter Jr. in Pierce's place and he responded by averaging 13.6 points and nearly seven rebounds a game over past four outings.

"Otto is another one who just doesn't understand how good he is,'' Pierce said. "He can shoot, he's a slasher, he can defend, I'm just not sure how badly he wants it every day.

"That kid just needs to get mad. If he came to practice ticked off and to the games ticked off, he'd be fine. But it's hard to get Otto mad. I should punch him one day just to get him riled up.''
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Re: Paul Pierce: Brooklyn situation was "horrible" and kids these days don't get it

Postby Kevin on Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:12 pm

Pierce is firm: Next season will be his last.

"I've had my time,'' he said.

Never knew he was going to retire next season.

"It was a weird relationship,'' Pierce conceded. "We were all good friends on the court, but Ray always did his own thing. That's just the way Ray was. Even when we were playing together, we'd be having a team dinner and Ray wouldn't show up. We'd go to his charity events but Ray wouldn't show up to somebody else's.
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Re: Paul Pierce: Brooklyn situation was "horrible" and kids these days don't get it

Postby Andrew on Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:13 pm

Not to say he doesn't have a point, but doesn't every generation say that about the next? "Kids these days..."

I was kind of hoping he'd have a retirement tour with Boston. A shame he couldn't have played his entire career there.
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Re: Paul Pierce: Brooklyn situation was "horrible" and kids these days don't get it

Postby Mandich on Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:00 am

Andrew wrote:Not to say he doesn't have a point, but doesn't every generation say that about the next? "Kids these days..."


Exactly. Bitter old people.

Some of his statements make sense and are probably true, but downplaying an entire generation just sounds bitter and pathetic.
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Re: Paul Pierce: Brooklyn situation was "horrible" and kids these days don't get it

Postby shadowgrin on Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:25 pm

Pierce said, people don't understand he wasn't all that close to Allen to begin with.

"It was a weird relationship,'' Pierce conceded. "We were all good friends on the court, but Ray always did his own thing. That's just the way Ray was. Even when we were playing together, we'd be having a team dinner and Ray wouldn't show up. We'd go to his charity events but Ray wouldn't show up to somebody else's.

"I called him on it. I said, 'Man, Ray, we support all your stuff but when we ask you, you don't come to ours.' I remember when Rondo re-signed with Boston, we had a little dinner at a restaurant and Ray didn't show up.

"I know Ray probably didn't like Rondo that much, but it wasn't a fact of not liking somebody. You don't have to like everybody you play with -- it's a matter of showing support.

"Rondo probably didn't like Ray either, but he came to Ray's functions to show, 'Hey, we're together in this.'

"It's not a bad thing with Ray. We had a great relationship on the court. But even the year we won it, after a game we'd say, 'Let's go have something to eat and have a night with the older guys.' We'd get there and it would be me, Kevin and Sam (Cassell), but no Ray. In a lot of ways, me, Sam and Kevin were our Big Three.

"It just got to the point where it was, 'That's Ray.' No hard feelings. Everyone made such a big deal of us not talking after we left, but there really wasn't much there.''


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Re: Paul Pierce: Brooklyn situation was "horrible" and kids these days don't get it

Postby Jeffx on Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:37 pm

Reggie Miller chimes in on Deron Williams:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... -1.2186953
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Re: Paul Pierce: Brooklyn situation was "horrible" and kids these days don't get it

Postby Andrew on Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:16 am

He certainly seems to have peaked and quickly entered a decline following the trade from Utah. There was a time when it was fair to call him one of the best point guards in the league, but those days are becoming a distant memory.
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Re: Paul Pierce: Brooklyn situation was "horrible" and kids these days don't get it

Postby NovU on Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:38 am

Paul Pierce is just mouthing about his former and current teammates just because he's OLD.

Deron was awesome and had his best season in his career just prior to coming of Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett. Pressure getting to him, whatever, it's just silly a character assassination. It was Deron's ankle that was the biggest failure, but sure it's 'pressure folding', a great story indeed.

Joe Johnson was never that loud mouthed leader type guy. You have that type of silent guy who does his team quitely on almost all teams. Why is Paul Piercing being a dick and put him on the spot.

It's funny that Pierce is being evasive and turning blames to others. What a piece of shit. He is just as guilty as anyone. He was a shitty player as much as he was a shitty leader for the Nets. All this leader, young kids talk are stupid. It was the injuries and we all know it.


Same with Wall and Beal talk. Pierce is just being an arrogant douche. In reality, Wall and Beal are just NOT that good. It's not because they are KIDS that don't try to be great instead of good. Paul Pierce is basically talking down on them as if he is 'great'. What a douche. Does he really think Wall and Beal would appreciate this advice publicly? If I was them, I'd say keep your opinion to yourself and mind your own business as you are also stinking on the court and also in the locker room.
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