Is it a foul

@Mikeman

Why on earth did you quote your self and then answered your own quote

Is it a foul to throw the ball intentionally against another player's face in basketball?

It isn't in soccer?! Of course not... If you're wondering if it's a "regular" foul, it is obviously not. Doing that on basketball will get you either a technical or flagrant foul and some occasional cuts and bruises.

@Mikeman

Why on earth did you quote your self and then answered your own quote

My answer to his question is my quoted answer . Get it ?
Read Carefully and you'll find out .

You mean like what they do in Street ball? (off the heezy or something I believe its called)
You're allowed to throw it off someone's back (a la chauncey billups inbound passes)

They let that go in a Rookie/Sophomore game a few years back but I doubt they'd stand for it in a regular game. I doubt that many players would try to do that outside an exhibition game like the All-Star game or Rookie/Sophomore game anyway.

That's also not off their face but the topish of the head, and isn't done very hard so you can retain control of the ball. As I'm sure everyone can attest, it's somewhat different to have a ball bounce off your head than it is to have it bounce off your face.

Plus throwing it at someone's face would be with deliberate intent to hurt them, the other is just a goofy move.

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Because you're still dumb as a brick, Doobie.

Thank you Benji, I finally got it.

Shut up Shadow, your just jealous of my incredible posting skills.

"McGrady comes with a punch"

What punch? T-Mac punches like a girl.

I've seen that in Europe a couple of times, but there was no suspension or anything like that. The guy who did it, got flagrant 1 and that's it.

I'm guessing that when Modifly said "ban", he was referring to a suspension rather than a lifetime ban from the NBA.

That's what I'm trying to say, thanks Andrew. I need to seperate the word "ban" and "suspension" in my dictionary..

Let me clear somethings up.

I mean when the game is running. Of course that if you throw the ball against another player with the game stopped that's an aggression. Flagrant 2, ejection, suspension bla bla bla.

When the game is running it is not a foul to throw the ball against another player at least to try to save the ball from going out of bounds.
What if the ball is not going out of bounds and the player throws it against an opponent's leg? And against his face?

If how hard the ball is thrown is a factor to which it is a foul or not it shouldnt be like that. So if they do it like in street ball with the ball lightly touching the other guys forehead it should be a foul, otherwise i should be able to throw it as hard as i can because strength is relative, refs wouldn't be able to mesure it in a fair way.

So what i get from your responses is that intentionally throwing the ball against an opponents face while the game is running is a flagrant foul, but if it isn't, players should be doing it until the rule is changed/created.

And for those who said that it would make the player the biggest bitch in the history of the sport, isn't it also bitchy to foul other players an the end of the game and sometimes end of quarter to make them go to the free throw line? No, it isn't they are just taking advantage of the rules to try to win. That is called playing the game. Breaking the rule pays off. It's like saying i would only get a 1 dolar fine everytime i got caught robbing a bank.

That is why i think that many of those intentional fouls are flagrant fouls, you can't just go and grab the guy you have to go for the ball. Like the hack a shaq or hack a wallace or hack whatever you want, when you deliberatly foul a guy that doesn't even has the ball or for a mather of fact is not going for the ball or even looking at it,how is that not a flagrant foul?

Coz you're not hurting them physically . . .
It's intentional - Ordinary Foul .
Shaq's and Ben's opponents somewhat kinda' hugs them , of course that won't cause a Flagrant Foul wouldn't it ?

Coz you're not hurting them physically . . .
It's intentional - Ordinary Foul .
Shaq's and Ben's opponents somewhat kinda' hugs them , of course that won't cause a Flagrant Foul wouldn't it ?

You don't have to hurt your opponent for it to be an flagrant foul.

Edit: I'm sorry you are correct, flagrant fouls in the NBA are about excessive contact. That should be changed. It should be like in FIBA:

"FIBA basketball rules have a similar foul called an unsportsmanlike foul, which is roughly equivalent to a flagrant type 1, with the addition that an unsportsmanlike foul can be called if a player fouls with no intention to play the ball, as well as if a player fouls another player on a fast break from behind him. If a player commits a foul warranting immediate ejection from the game, the foul would be called as a disqualifying foul - similar to a flagrant 2. Two unsportsmanlike fouls lead to automatic disqualification, similar to the NBA." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagrant_foul

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How ?

When the game is running it is not a foul to throw the ball against another player at least to try to save the ball from going out of bounds.
What if the ball is not going out of bounds and the player throws it against an opponent's leg? And against his face?

Well, if it's clear that a player is trying to throw the ball off his opponent's face then they might indeed call a technical foul at the very least. In some cases though it would be more difficult to conclusively state that a player meant to throw the ball off his opponent's face particularly if he's a bit out of control as he tries to save the ball in-bounds and the throw doesn't look particularly measured.

As for flagrant fouls, you are actually right; a player doesn't have to be injured for a flagrant to be called but of course when there is "excessive contact" there is always that possibility.