Hornets and Raptors agree in principle to a trade

The Raptors and the Hornets agreed in principle to a Multi-player deal
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The New Orleans Hornets and Toronto Raptors have agreed in principle on a five-player trade that would send Peja Stojakovic and Jerryd Bayless to the Raptors for Jarrett Jack, David Andersen and Marcus Banks, a source told ESPN.com Saturday.



Stojakovic

The deal was close to being completed Friday night, but had been held up over the amount of cash the Hornets would send to the Raptors in the trade, according to a source with direct knowledge of the talks, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

In order for the deal to pass muster under league rules, it actually would be executed as two separate trades to get around a restriction preventing Bayless from being included in a multi-player deal prior to Dec. 23 -- two months from the date the Hornets acquired Bayless from Portland.

A trade call likely will take place in about an hour.


Stojakovic is in the final year of his contract, earning $14.25 million, and has fallen out of the rotation in New Orleans, averaging just 7.5 points in less than 15 minutes per game playing behind Marco Belinelli, whom the Hornets acquired in another trade with the Raptors during the summer.




Bayless

Bayless is averaging 4.5 points and 2.5 assists as the backup point guard behind Chris Paul.

Jack, who is earning $4.6 million and has two more seasons left on his contract, has started all 13 games for the Raptors, averaging 10.8 points and 4.5 assists. But he has played an average of only 26 minutes per night, basically operating in a time-share with Jose Calderon at point guard.


Andersen, a backup center, is averaging 5.1 points and 3.1 rebounds, and Banks (in the final year of his contract, making $4.85 million) has appeared in only three games this season.

The Hornets are really trying to become contenders aren't they? And this would be Bayless's second trade of the last month or so.

The Hornets are really trying to become contenders aren't they? And this would be Bayless's second trade of the last month or so.

It woud take 2 separate trades just to get Bayless due to a restriction in which he has to wait 2 months to be involved in a multi-player trade as it says in the article.

I like Bayless, he'll do good in Toronto

Really like this deal for both teams (Toronto loses their best player, but it's okay, since he's not young and they want to lose), though it seems awfully risky from a chemistry standpoint to tinker with a 10-1 team.

Hopefully J-Bay can build off his finish to last season.

Really like this deal for both teams (Toronto loses their best player, but it's okay, since he's not young and they want to lose), though it seems awfully risky from a chemistry standpoint to tinker with a 10-1 team.

Hopefully J-Bay can build off his finish to last season.

Jack is supposedly one of the best friends of Chris Paul, so that probably won't be a matter.

The Raptors just got a whole lot worse... But Bayless is a decent addition.

damn. i was happy to see bayless go to new orleans but i guess that means they were unable to get iguodala for peja

I like this trade for both teams provided all parts can play as they can.

Raptors
Peja can be utilized great if he's given the spots to shoot. The only thing he can still do great is this,and Craptors can use it and along with Leandro have a good shooting duo. I know he's overspent though. Bayless is a really nice and athletic player. Not better than Jack, but he can offer lots of things from the bench. He should 've stayed in Portland.

Hornets
They really are even stronger here.Giving an useless Peja and Bayless, who is promising but didn't help for Jack,who can really give so much help from the bench. As for the other two though, i believe they will be either bench warmers or on the inactive list. But only Jack is better from Bayless and Peja for the hornets this period.

The Raptors just got a whole lot worse... But Bayless is a decent addition.

Well, it wasn't like the Raptors were going anywhere far this year. Peja's huge expiring contract is awesome plus the Traded Player Exemption money from dealing Bosh to Miami; just hope Colangelo doesn't rush and buy someone useless. With also a good lottery pick likely in the coming draft, I'm liking this as a Raptors fan. Getting Jerryd Bayless is also a plus. I haven't seen much of him but I just remember him being hyped prior to the draft then getting very little playing time in Portland. If he works out, great. If not, meh whatever. Jarrett Jack hasn't been playing all that well early this season, though still better than how he started out last season; was bricking everything but played much more steady in the latter 2/3s of last season. Wasn't exactly starting material but he'll be a decent backup to Chris Paul. Marcus Banks and David Andersen were just bench fodder anyways. Enjoyed what Banks brought when he was a Raptor though...was the only PG on this team that actually defended but just lacked too much on the offensive end while Andersen was basically like Australian Bargnani it seemed. He would hit some nice turnaround jumpers off of some post moves and would hit midrange jumpers here and there but that's about it.

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But seriously, this gets us a whole lot closer to Kyrie Irving.

I wouldn't have expected the Hornets to be looking to make any moves at 10-1, even if Peja has fallen out of favour. That's money that would've come off the books at the end of the year, I don't think it would've done them much harm to stand pat.

I don't see a problem with it. Peja's pretty much wasted talent on the Hornets now, as he's pretty much fallen out of the rotation. He's not that bad, will probably be Derozan's main backup at SF. At least, they're getting something in return. They get to upgrade Chris Paul's backup.

Isn't Bayless the perfect guy to backup Paul?

A nice trade for the Hornets, but I don't think it will have much of an impact, they were good before they will be good after . . .

I wouldn't have expected the Hornets to be looking to make any moves at 10-1, even if Peja has fallen out of favour. That's money that would've come off the books at the end of the year, I don't think it would've done them much harm to stand pat.

If Jarret Jack is one of Paul's best friends though...

Now Mbenga will be out of the rotation with the addition of Andersen.

I wouldn't have expected the Hornets to be looking to make any moves at 10-1, even if Peja has fallen out of favour. That's money that would've come off the books at the end of the year, I don't think it would've done them much harm to stand pat.

If Jarret Jack is one of Paul's best friends though...

jack is also an upgrade over bayless and the raptors solved their PG question. jack is the only one that's not an expiring contract so didn't change a whole lot there either

Really like this deal for both teams (Toronto loses their best player, but it's okay, since he's not young and they want to lose), though it seems awfully risky from a chemistry standpoint to tinker with a 10-1 team.

Hopefully J-Bay can build off his finish to last season.

He's a decent back up, nothing more nothing less. And he was stinking it up, chucking, and reportedly unhappy because he didn't want to play for a rebuilding team. He has never made the playoffs in his career. Jose was outplaying him. The only reason Jose is harder to trade is his contract. One had to go, and it was like whatever which one. Based on the play this year I'm glad it's Jack.

Amir Johnson, Bargnani and Weems are all waaaaay better players. DeRozan is too but he's still inconsistent. I bet Ed Davis will be better too, and Jack doesn't have anything on Barbosa or much on Jose. So no, not even close.

I wouldn't have expected the Hornets to be looking to make any moves at 10-1, even if Peja has fallen out of favour. That's money that would've come off the books at the end of the year, I don't think it would've done them much harm to stand pat.

If Jarret Jack is one of Paul's best friends though...

He's also one of Chris Bosh's best friends.

He's also one of Chris Bosh's best friends.

If I remember correctly, the Raptors signed Jack in a try to make Bosh re-sign with them

Amir Johnson and Weems are all waaaaay better players.

lolz

I like this for New Orleans. They said they wanted to limit CP3's minutes this season and now they can with a good back-up in Jack. David Anderson is just a throw in, and Marcus Banks is horrible (but an expiring deal).

I don't see any positives (outside getting worse than terrible) for the Raptors. It seems like Colangelo just added another Euro to his Euro-League all-star team. Maybe Bayless will be solid for them, but minus three pointers, his game is pretty similar to Barbosa.

Amir Johnson and Weems are all waaaaay better players.

lolz

I like this for New Orleans. They said they wanted to limit CP3's minutes this season and now they can with a good back-up in Jack. David Anderson is just a throw in, and Marcus Banks is horrible (but an expiring deal).

I don't see any positives (outside getting worse than terrible) for the Raptors. It seems like Colangelo just added another Euro to his Euro-League all-star team. Maybe Bayless will be solid for them, but minus three pointers, his game is pretty similar to Barbosa.

The key for the Raptors in this trade is Peja's $14.5 million expiring contract. Banks was also an expiring but he's making like $4.5 million in comparison. Like I said earlier, it's not like they were gonna do anything this season anyways. They're hoping for a good high draft pick (so am I).

Jack has been annoying to watch lately. It's like a scrimmage when this guy is on the floor, not running plays at all literally nothing is happening. He's just dumping the ball to anybody and is really hard to watch on the break.

Amir Johnson and Weems are all waaaaay better players.

lolz

I like this for New Orleans. They said they wanted to limit CP3's minutes this season and now they can with a good back-up in Jack. David Anderson is just a throw in, and Marcus Banks is horrible (but an expiring deal).

I don't see any positives (outside getting worse than terrible) for the Raptors. It seems like Colangelo just added another Euro to his Euro-League all-star team. Maybe Bayless will be solid for them, but minus three pointers, his game is pretty similar to Barbosa.

lol

Amir Johnson is 3rd in Offensive Rebound Rate (not even first on the team lol), and he is the ONLY player in the NBA who shoots 60% from the field and 90% from the stripe.

Just because he couldn't get minutes on your Pistons and they dumped him doesn't mean he's garbage.
If he can cut down on his fouls he is going to be a fine player, and he's great running the floor which is how we like to play.

Weems and Bayless are the same. Cast offs, busts, whatever, but young and with potential AND something to prove and the Raptors are taking a flyer on players like that. Weems is shooting 50% from the field and was clutch in two wins (Magic and Celtics). I don't know Bayless well but I think he won't have a hard time replacing what Jack provided which was not much. And he's cheaper and younger and more athletic, also much younger than Barbosa even if they're alike. If Bayless pans out great, if he doesn't it's like whatever. Jack going is great either way, he was pouting and too expensive. We had two overpaid mediocre players at the same position, I'm sure you can relate. Bayless is young and desperate for an opportunity to play and excited about joining a young running team, instead of Jack who was frustrated being on a bad team.

We're rebuilding and I think Colangelo has done a great job kickstarting it this summer. And while doing so we've even hit a little winning streak so I don't know about worse than horrible, .5 games behind the stacked Detroit. But the point is overpaid win-now players are going out. Like Turkoglu, who everybody said was untradeable. Jose was almost traded for Chandler until MJ cockblocked it. And now Jack. Maybe Barbosa's next. Hopefully he'll opt out anyway, he's 30 or so so I think he might be looking for one last long term deal. So no, Peja is not relevant. It could have been anybody, he's just an expiring contract. But of course he's a Euro so then everybody can't help regurgitating the cliches but when Belinelli and Turkoglu are traded then that's irrelevant. Whatever.. I wouldn't mind if BC would steal Jerebko from you guys though, we have cap room now.

Oh and David Andersen did fine but his contract was needed in the deal and Ed Davis is about to return so in that sense it works out well, because he needs to play.

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Jack has been annoying to watch lately. It's like a scrimmage when this guy is on the floor, not running plays at all literally nothing is happening. He's just dumping the ball to anybody and is really hard to watch on the break.

yeah yesterday on the pick and pop plays they run with jason smith/david west, he would throw a dangerous skip pass to the guy in the corner instead of hitting the big man for the open mid range J