NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #10

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NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #10

Tiny Archibald
0
No votes
Sam Cassell
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No votes
Walt Frazier
3
23%
Tim Hardaway
1
8%
Dennis Rodman
9
69%
 
Total votes : 13

NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #10

Postby Mandich on Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:01 pm

-12th number of the many

-#9 was won by Bob Petit

-#10 can go in many ways

-You can vote for players in any way you want: On-court impact, Off-court impact, championships etc.

Nominees:

1. Tiny Archibald (1970-71 to 1973-74)

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*He led the league in scoring once during this tenure, but played 46 minutes a game. He didn't really do much other than that. Honestly, he didn't. Archibald didn't make the Playoffs. He was a really good passer and did score a lot.

Will probably get some votes based on his reputation. You could easily make an argument that he was overrated, but he did have a couple of good offensive years during this tenure.

2. Sam Cassell (1993-94 to 2002-03)

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18.93.97.3.54711110819.6.142


* I included his lone season of wearing #20 in Milwaukee, but it really makes no difference, Cassell was hugely underrated during this period of time.

Sour Sam Cassell. His face is so sour he looks he just brushed his teeth and bit into a grapefruit. Donald Sterling once saw him naked and called him beautiful.

He was constantly amongst the best point guard in the NBA. Cassell had a great impact on teams he went to. The evidence is undeniable.

The Rockets win an asterisk championship. The Nets make the Playoffs. The Bucks make the Playoffs. He becomes the best point guard in the league in his first year in Minnesota, and they go all the way
to the Conference Finals. He goes to the Clippers and the finally make the Playoffs.

How can a player of his stature and value only make the All-star team once ?

3. Walt Frazier (1967-68 to 1976-77)

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* One half of the famed "Rolls Royce Backcourt" he made with The Pearl. They blended great and won a title for the Knicks, making them New York legends.

Walt was a very versatile player. He did everything at a high level for his position: rebounding, passing, defense. He was also very efficient in scoring in a few years. He was a scorer.

Unfortunately he played in the 70s. Those players don't get the recognition they deserve.

4. Tim Hardaway (1990-91 to 2001-02)

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18.33.38.3.53011110818.9.140


* He was a part of Run TMC. He had the killer crossover. He was shot happy. He was a good passer. He gambled a lot of defense, and wasn't very good at it when he didn't.

Hardaway also played heavy minutes during his prime. He was a really good player offensively but didn't do much until he went to Miami to play with Mourning. Mourning's epic defense meshed well with
Hardaway's offensive skills as the team made some noise in the Playoffs. Everyone remembers those epic battles they had with the Knicks.

5. Dennis Rodman (1986-87 to 1994-95)

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9.614.61.7.56411610115.4.157


* Is he the best role player of all-time ?

Some will argue me calling him a role player, because he really was so much than that.

He ran the floor perfectly in his early Pistons days. He even scored plenty of points and was extremely efficient. His rebounding and defense ? Off the charts. He became the best rebounder in the league and the best since Russell in his later Pistons years, and he remained that title to his Laker days. He won 5 titles.

What more can you want if you're a championship team ? He can play big minutes, he can run, he can defend, he can rebound, he doesn't shoot or hold the ball but hustles on every single play.

The thing is, Rodman was elite at literally everything he did on the court. EVERYTHING.

Let's run in Detroit? K I'll score 12-15 on 120+ Ortg while keeping my TS% around or over .600.

I need to rebound ? Ok I'll lead the league in Total Rebound Percentage 8 years in a row and will also be the best offensive rebounder on the planet.

I need to defend? Ok I'll lead the league in DWS and be one of the best defenders of the era, even with my 210 lbs frame.

He did all of this while being drugged out of his mind, staying out until morning, sleeping with a loaded rifle in his car and thinking about suicide. He also got suspended a lot. He had trouble with injuries.

His Hall of Fame speech is probably the best one I've ever seen. That guy is raw passion. On and off the court. He gets my vote as the most underrated player of All-time.

Other Notable Player Shoutout

BJ Armstrong wore it during his Bulls days where he was a good role player for some championship teams. Darrell Armstrong liked layups. But he was a very good player during his Magic days. Leandro Barbosa wore it in Phoenix where he was one of the better bench players in the NBA. Keith Bogans was tuted the worst starter in the NBA at one point. Manute Bol was a terrific blocker but was a twig. He barely weighted 200 lbs. Chase Budinger is doing nothing notable lately. Louie Dampier wore it way back and had some good scorign seasons. Bob Dandridge was a part of those Oscar-Kareem Bucks and helped that team win a title. Demar DeRozan had a bad year and isn't really worth his contract. Carlos Delfino dunked on Kevin Durant. Ven Flemming was a good ofensive point guard that somehow didn't make the All-star team. Jeff Foster had some good years in Indiana. He really did. Joe Fulks has the worst field goal percentage of any player that led the league in scoring. try .259 %. Eric Gordon is a good scorer and his future looks bright with Davis on his team. David Lee is still a good player that just won a title. Bob Love was a volume scorer. Tyronn Lue got stepped over. Earl Monroe wore it before he got to the Knicks and became one of the biggest stars in the league. Greg Monroe is looking to get paid this summer. Obviously it won't be by the Pistons. Norm Nixom was a good offensive player during his career. Don Ohl scored on bad teams. Joel Pryzbilla had a few good years in Portland. He was a very good rebounder and shot blocker. Adrian Smith scored. Dick Snyder was one of those 60s/70s players you never heard of but had a good career. Wally Szczerbiak just opened an "I love Bruce Bowen" website. JoJo White really wasn't that good but somehow managed to get in the Hall of Fame. Just shows you what a joke that honour has become. Maurice Cheeks was a baller in the 80s. Had some really good offensive years in Philadelphia. Mike Bibby was part of that amazing Kings team, which is one of my favourtie teams of All-time.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #10

Postby mp3 on Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:10 pm

Homer pick...

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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #10

Postby benji on Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:43 pm

Rodman is the greatest rebounder in history by parsecs, so he gets the nod over Clyde.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #10

Postby Sauru on Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:03 pm

i have to go with rodman
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #10

Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:19 pm

As great as he was and slightly under-appreciated as he still is, the best on the boards, one of my favourites...I'll very reluctantly not cast my vote for Rodman, who's going to get #91 (sorry, Metta). "Clyde" Frazier it is.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #10

Postby Kevin on Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:47 pm

Rodman over Frazier.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #10

Postby mp3 on Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:11 am

And to be honest I only really liked Rodman when he went to the Bulls.

He brought a new level of excitement to the game for me and that is also why he is my pick at 91.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #10

Postby big-shot-ROB on Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:23 am

The clown Rodman gets my vote. I have a poster of him diving into the crowd to catch a ball, you know of what picture I'm talking of:


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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #10

Postby NovU on Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:44 am

Rodman.

I don't think anyone would like to play against him. He'll drag you down to the floor, gets you mad bruh, and kill your swag whatever it takes. And it didn't matter if you're PG or Center.
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