NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #9

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NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #9

Andre Iguodala
2
13%
Dan Majerle
0
No votes
Tony Parker
2
13%
Bob Petit
10
67%
Rajon Rondo
1
7%
 
Total votes : 15

NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #9

Postby Mandich on Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:20 am

-11th number of the many

-#8 was won by Kobe Bryant

-#9 probably has a clear cut winner but should provide some competition

-You can vote for players in any way you want: On-court impact, Off-court impact, championships etc.

Nominees:

1. Andre Iguodala (2005-06 to 2014-15)

P/36R/36A/36TS%OrtgDrtgPERWs/48
14.35.44.8.54911010516.7.124


* In his prime, this guy was a stud. How much more player can you think of that produce north of 15 points per game with 5 assists and 5 rebounds, while being an elite defender ? All-star caliber player. Surprisingly, he only made the team once.

In his more recent years he took a step down scoring wise, but he is still an elite defender. He slipped in defense last year, but recovered greatly this year as his team went on to become the best in the
league defensively.

His mid range game isn't really that bad, but he is obviously a limited shooter. Iguodala is cash money in the transition and at finishing around the rim.

He was also robbed of a dunk contest back in 2006.

He also just won a championship and a Finals MVP.

2. Dan Majerle (1988-89 to 2001-02)

P/36R/36A/36TS%OrtgDrtgPERWs/48
13.05.13.3.53811410613.8.125


* Majerle had a pretty solid NBA career. He was a part of that amazing Suns team that could've easily won a championship if not for the injuries of Kevin Johnson. Also noted a couple off All-star
appearances in the process.

Majerle was a productive offensive player that was a good fit for the Suns system. He could spread the floor, but never shot over 40% from the three-point line.

His performance quickly turned for the worse after he left Phoenix, as he continued to log big minutes but didn't have the impact he used to.


3. Tony Parker (2001-02 to 2014-15)

P/36R/36A/36TS%OrtgDrtgPERWs/48
18.83.26.6.55010910418.9.147


* Tony Parker. He is not a top 10 point guard of the three point era, but could easily squeeze in the top 15 of many lists. Don't underestimate his impact on the Spurs championships. Charles Barkley called him the best point guard in the NBA, but Barkley always says stupid things and that's why he's so likeable.

Parker suffers a lot because of his defense, which was never really good. Although San Antonio always had the roster to be a top 10 defensive team, Parker was always the weak link.

He did thrive on offense, as he had some really good years. Parker was never an elite playmaker, but has improved his passing and has cut on his turnovers as his career went on, which is a good sign of improvement.

Parker will probably get some recognition because of his 4 rings.

4. Bob Petit (1954-55 to 1964-65)

P/36R/36A/36TS%OrtgDrtgPERWs/48
24.515.12.8.511NrNr25.3.213


* So it is pretty hard to compare player from that era to those of the three-point one. But no one can deny that he was the best power forward of those days. Bob Pettit was a real stud and was considered by many the best power forward ever until Duncan took that title from him, deservingly so.

His shooting percentages weren't elite elvel, as he cracked the top 10 in FG% only twice during his career.

But Petit led the league 4 times in PER, once in win shares, and twice in scoring. He was also a good free-throw shooter.

All things considered, Petit is by far the best player on this list, and a top-tier power forward. Clear winner in my eyes.

5. Rajon Rondo (2006-07 to 2014-15)

P/36R/36A/36TS%OrtgDrtgPERWs/48
12.05.29.2.50310510216.7.120


* For a few years, he was one of the best point guards in the NBA. He was probably tied with Deron Williams for the 2nd best point guard in the league. Rondo was pretty damn good offensively and he was just as
good on defense. He quickly became one of the best passers in the league, and a triple-double threat.

Rondo had some years where he was actually pretty good from mid-range, but all of that has obviously fallen apart.

Rondo also had some success in the postseason, but he always had trouble scoring, with some occasional games where he would go off.

The thing is, people don't get just how bad of a player Rondo has become. He suddenly went from a top 5 point guard in the league to a bonafide scrub. I'm not exaggerating. His defense was horrible in his last Celtic days. He them improved to being almost an average defender in Dallas.

Rondo is also turning into a really bad offensive player. Sure he is still a good passer, but that is all he brings to an offense,
He can't score, he can't spread the floor, he can't do anything.

Sometimes this things happen. A player goes from a perrenial All-star to a bad player. No need to be a arrogant prick anymore.

Other Notable Player Shoutout


Tony Allen continues to be one of the best, if not the best perimeter defender in the league. Luol Deng has had a very productive career thus far, ending up in a team that denied him the championship in Chicago. Richy Guerin wore it during his time in New York. Ron Harper wore it when he was a great role player for those epic Bulls teams. Serge Ibaka has established himself as one of the best shot blockers in the NBA, with an improved offensive game. Shame the injuries keep bugging him. Rashard Lewis wore it during his twighlight years in Orlando, spreading the floor so Dwight Howard could do his work. George Lynch was part of that 76ers defense that lead them to the NBA Finals. Ricky Rubio is even worse than Jason Kidd on offense, but is a very good passer. Randy Smith was a volume scorer during the 70s. Nick Van Exel wore it in Los Angeles where he scored a lot. Nikola Vucevic shows a lot of promise and looks to have a long and productive career.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #9

Postby Kevin on Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:25 am

I'd go with Ibaka but Petit's numbers are superb.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #9

Postby Moz on Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:25 am

Gotta be Pettit who along with WIlt was one of the guys who beat those dynasty Celtics team back then...
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #9

Postby Andrew on Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:14 am

As much as the early days of the professional game invite comparisons of apples and oranges...I have to go with the legend who in the long run, prevented Russell from winning ten straight titles. Bob Pettit it is.

Also...number nine...number nine...number nine...

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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #9

Postby stereoxide on Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:16 pm

Pettit because those numbers were impressive.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #9

Postby NovU on Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:55 pm

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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #9

Postby mp3 on Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:29 pm

I voted for Pettit, got to show love to the history.

Also much respect to Thunder Dan!

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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #9

Postby benji on Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:23 pm

Pettit played after the shot-clock so his stats aren't as questionable as others who played in the 1950's.

He shot 78% at the line while getting there like mad, and teammates estimated he got 4-6 putbacks a game*. I think 20/10 is absolutely reasonable with today's training to bulk him up. I mean if Shareef can average 20/9...Terry Cummings 22/9...Dan Issel 22/9...Carlos Boozer 19/10...Zach Randolph 20/10...

*Hell, the Hawks designed play at the end of game seven of the 1957 Finals was for player-coach Alex Hannum to throw it the length of the court off the backboard to Pettit. Which they managed but his shot rolled out.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #9

Postby NovU on Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:42 am

You underestimate Shareef. He was a total package in offense. He can put the ball on the floor, shoot mid range, and had great post moves.

He even played terrific on nights where he couldn't eat anything for the entire day because his religion god forbid.

I think Shareef to Petit comparison is a fair one though.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-Time: #9

Postby benji on Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:46 pm

Actually, by mentioning Shareef, Cummings and Issel I was pointing to slender PF's who had relative success in their era's, so Pettit's bulking up makes it plausible. And that those "220-230" guys put up similar stuff to the "260+" fellers like Boozer and Randolph.

I obviously don't buy the Shareef as a loser narrative. He was having a vicious 2003-04 before the trade to Portland killed his career.
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