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NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Tracy McGrady
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60%
Amar'e Stoudemire
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5%
Chauncey Billups
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30%
Chris Bosh
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Penny Hardaway
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5%
 
Total votes : 20

NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby Mandich on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:02 pm

-Third number of the many

-#0 was won by Westbrook with neither Arenas nor Lillard being really close

-#1 will be a great number to vote for, as there are numerous players deserving of being considered the best

-You can vote for players in any way you want: On-court impact, Off-court impact, championships etc.

Nominees:

1. Tracy McGrady (1997-98 to 2008-09)
P/36R/36A/36TS%OrtgDrtgPERWs/48
22.76.34.9.52110810323.1.163


* For a couple of years he was arguably the best perimeter player in the NBA. Who could ever forget that amazing 2002-2003 season with the Magic where he was simply unfair and dominated the NBA. His stats during his Orlando days were amazing as he put up 26/6.5/5 on 26.4 PER. Who does he remind you of during that time ? Who knows what could've happened if his back didn't give up on him. T-mac was a monster.

2. Amar'e Stoudemire (2006-07 to 2014-15)
P/36R/36A/36TS%OrtgDrtgPERWs/48
22.88.91.5.60811510722.3.173


*One of the most efficient and underrated players/big man of the last decade. Stoudemire was unstoppable with Nash and Marion and even played a little bit of defense in his early days. Another one of those players who got struck with injuries. #1 really has a thing for this as you'll see later on.

3. Chauncey Billups (2002-03 to 2007-08)
P/36R/36A/36TS%OrtgDrtgPERWs/48
17.73.46.6.59212110421.0.222


*The most underrated point guard of all-time. He was pretty much the perfect player, especially for those Pistons who went to the Conference finals again, and again, and again. Just look at his stats: a league leading 127 Ortg in 05/06, 99 Drtg in his championship year, topped .600 TS% three times during his Pistons days and had a Ws/48 higher than .200 five times. What a player.

4. Chris Bosh (2010-11 to 2014-15)
P/36R/36A/36TS%OrtgDrtgPERWs/48
18.77.71.8.57311210319.4.160


*Although Bosh was clearly the third option during his tenure with LeBron/Wade, he was still a really good player. He also won 2 titles, the most on the list. His numbers don't really jump out or scream elite in any category, but Bosh was consistent and was an integral part to his team. Also dropping him would probably mean putting up a fanboy favourite on the list.

5. Penny Hardaway (1993-94 to 2002-03)
P/36R/36A/36TS%OrtgDrtgPERWs/48
17.14.85.7.54311010518.5.141


* Penny Hardaway was amazing for a couple of years. As we all know, injuries got the best of him. Poor #1s. His best year was 95/96 when he put on 21/4/7 on 122 Ortg with a TS% of .605 and a PER of 24.6. He also had a Ws/48 of .229. That was his third year in the league. Granted, he didn't play a lot of defense, but he was so dominant on offense during his prime that the Magic still managed to be one of the best teams in the East.

Other Notable Player Shoutout

Rod Strickland was one of the most consistent point guards in the west during the 90s. Sadly he has no All-star appearances, but has an All-NBA 2nd team appearance in 98 when he lead the league in assists. Oscar Robertson won a title wearing #1 next to Kareem. He was well past his prime but was still very much worth mentioning. Baron Davis wore the number during his Hornets days where he was a very exciting player, but is more known for his days in Golden State. Derrick Rose continues the #1 injury curse, with being the only player on the list to win an MVP award. Sadly, he only has 2 good seasons under his belt. Gus Williams was a good player during the 70s/80s. He had some All-star level seasons as he was twice selected to be a part of the team.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby Kevin on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:16 pm

T-Mac cause reasons.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby zz21 on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:21 pm

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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby zz21 on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:22 pm

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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby NovU on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:27 pm

Shit this one's a tough one.

I have to go with Billups though T-mac and Bosh are just as sexy.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby big-shot-ROB on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:37 pm

It's hard to decide between Billups and Mac. I'll go with Billups, that 05-06 team just amazed me. TMac could have won one ring if injuries had respected him. Billup's ring makes the difference.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby mp3 on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:59 pm

No love for the "Big O" ?

I voted for T-Mac, was the most entertaining to watch in the 00's

Respect to Penny though, i loved watching the epic battles when the east was strong and the Magic had Penny/Shaq/Nick Anderson/Dennis Scott/Horace Grant....
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby Sauru on Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:20 pm

i am going with t-mac for this one though i really wish we got to see a full injury free career out of penny. dont think he would have been better just i really liked watching him play. also i cant vote for robertson because he wore the number at the end of his career. pretty sure he will have his time to shine when we get to 14
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby stereoxide on Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:28 pm

This is a tough one, I both like to watch STAT and T-Mac play but I think I have to give this to Billups. His career accomplishments are enough for me to consider him over STAT and T-Mac. Penny is a great player but sadly, injuries.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby Mandich on Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:30 pm

Tied so far, although some didn't vote.

Can't wait to get to number 3.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby Moz on Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:33 pm

Billups and Amare were on powerhouse teams hence they got success in the post season... TMac was the Jordan/Lebron of the league for 2 or 3 years until injuries derailed him so he's my pick...
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby air gordon on Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:40 pm

Better vote Billups or benji will shit his pants
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby Murat on Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:42 pm

T-Mac!

He was amazing.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby Lamrock on Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:30 am

Gotta pay the Billups
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby airBerlin on Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:30 am

Was torn between T-Mac and Penny. Went with Penny since he didn't have a single vote yet.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby JaoSming on Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:58 am

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Wanted to go T-Mac, but potential greatness =/= actual awesomeness like Mr. Big Shot himself.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:10 am

Going with T-Mac, but Penny remains a tremendous What If.

mp3 wrote:No love for the "Big O" ?


He wore #14 for most of his career, and his prime.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby mp3 on Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:05 pm

Arhh yes so he did my mistake
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby NovU on Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:32 pm

Out of this list, only one has two rings. No respect for that guy? Shame on you guys.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby Sauru on Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:20 am

NovU wrote:Out of this list, only one has two rings. No respect for that guy? Shame on you guys.



people always make the mistake that rings = better player.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby NovU on Tue Jun 09, 2015 4:32 pm

True. Greatest example being Bill Russell.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby Sauru on Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:44 pm

NovU wrote:True. Greatest example being Bill Russell.


in no way is that the greatest example. the best would probably be someone like barkley who people shit on simple for not having one. imo rings come into play when you take everything else into consideration first. rings of course has some impact on legacy but people always use them as a measuring stick which is just flat out wrong.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby NovU on Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:02 pm

Meh. He gets enough credits as one of the best ever at his position as is. Bill Russell gets ridiculous praises over Wilt, that's non sense.
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby Sauru on Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:06 pm

NovU wrote:Meh. He gets enough credits as one of the best ever at his position as is. Bill Russell gets ridiculous praises over Wilt, that's non sense.



few reasons for that

1. he does have all those rings
2. wilt was a world class asshole
3. he is still alive
4. most fans are fucking stupid
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Re: NLSC Greatest of All-time: #1

Postby benji on Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:38 pm

Sauru wrote:wilt was a world class asshole

what
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