The Great Analytics Ranking

[benji]

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_ ... kings#!nba

Discusses all the teams with details, but top and bottom teams:

ALL-IN
Dallas Mavericks
Houston Rockets
Philadelphia 76ers
San Antonio Spurs

BELIEVERS
Atlanta Hawks
Boston Celtics
Cleveland Cavaliers
Detroit Pistons
Golden State Warriors
Memphis Grizzlies
Oklahoma City Thunder
Portland Trail Blazers
...
SKEPTICS
Chicago Bulls
Denver Nuggets
Los Angeles Clippers
Minnesota Timberwolves
New Orleans Pelicans
Washington Wizards

NONBELIEVERS
Brooklyn Nets
Los Angeles Lakers
New York Knicks

[Mandich]

This really shows the impact analytics have today. Few low-seeded teams here are doing well.

Suck it LA.

[NovU]

All in my ass.

Rondo move contradicts statistic argument. Rondo for Wright was not 82game.com stat kind of move. Especially Rondo coming of couple terrible seasons was not based on stats just as OKC screwed up with Perkins who was never the same player once he got there. I am not entirely Cuban and his decision makers are fully committed. Effort is there.

Morey might be a stat guy but obviously lucked into stud Harden and his reputation is coasting on that trade alone. Btw you didn't need group of hardcore stat gurus to tell Harden was a stud, anyone that visits b-r and such knew about him already. But Morey virtually went from being an invisible man to a stat genius. He's made some dubious moves by then. For instance, Lowry was traded for a salary cap relief then lost Goran Dragic for nothing.

I will share my views more later on other teams as I read more.

[benji]

Rondo move contradicts statistic argument. Rondo for Wright was not 82game.com stat kind of move.

You don't know anything about the Mavericks methodology. It was the same one that blew traditional advanced stats on Jason Kidd out of the water because of role/fit changes. Same with Monta Ellis.

I am not entirely Cuban and his decision makers are fully committed. Effort is there.

All In doesn't mean they make every single decision based on stats, just that they employ stats to a significant amount in their decision making.

But Morey virtually went from being an invisible man to a stat genius.

Unless, you know, you were reading or participating in anything in stat circles. He started the Sloan Conference in 2006.

[NovU]

Rondo move contradicts statistic argument. Rondo for Wright was not 82game.com stat kind of move.

You don't know anything about the Mavericks methodology. It was the same one that blew traditional advanced stats on Jason Kidd out of the water because of role/fit changes. Same with Monta Ellis.

Fair enough. I still think it was a risky move though I have to admit I liked the upside if they could time travel Rondo to Big 4 Rondo. Same risk the Thunder took with Perkins. He was never the same coming back from injury but they took him in and paid pre-injury worthy contract.

All In doesn't mean they make every single decision based on stats, just that they employ stats to a significant amount in their decision making.

True hence the reason 'all in' does not suit them entirely. I definitely could see the effort but I am actually more sold on Hollinger's Grizzlies than Morey's Rockets.

[air gordon]

that is strange the bulls graded out as a skeptic even they have a hired advanced guy. the link on tshe short write up say they use the stats as a tool in evaluating draft prospects and in scouting reports. is this some kind of propaganda article? it's either you're all in or not lol

boozer got bitch slapped by Thibs when boozer was complaining about lack of playing time. Thibs is a big study film guy but even he cited some stats to justify leaving him on the bench and playing Taj instead

[NovU]

I don't think there is any propaganda here. Rankings are just subjective. Author is telling his view on each teams how they implement analytics and gurus.

I think he has it about right with the Heat btw.

[Andrew]

During his diatribe against analytics on TNT earlier in February, Charles Barkley asked, "What analytics do the Spurs have?"

The answer, Barkley might be surprised to learn, is plenty. Quietly, the Spurs have been leaders in applying and integrating analytics for years.

Whoops.

There does seem to be some overlap in the Believers and Skeptics sections; perhaps they felt three categories of "Completely invested and leading the charge", "Making use of", and "Generally disregard and downplay them" would have been too broad.