Trade Logic & CPU Offers

So far, I've received a few trade offers from the CPU that are a bit iffy. So, I did an exercise (as the Lakers) by searching for trade offers for Roy Hibbert in MyLeague (4 games into the 2015-2016 season). I have Trade Negotiation Difficulty set to 100, though I can't say I've see that changing this value makes any difference in both 2K15 & 2K16

I know that alot of work has gone into improving team decision-making and trade offers etc this year, so I'd be curious to know if anyone from 2K Sports is reading and might be able to provide some insight into why these offers might be made. Ie. does the trade logic take into account actual stats or is it based solely on Ratings, Age, Contract, Team Status, Team Needs etc? Is the game simply accounting for the fact that sometimes teams will just make bad trades (even though in this case this represents 2-3 out of the total 3 offers I received)?

Jazz Receive: Roy Hibbert (ovr 77), 2018 LAL 2nd Round Pick
Lakers Receive: Rudy Gobert (ovr 77), 2016 UTA 2nd Round Pick
According to Team Intel, Jazz are rebuilding and lists Gobert as on an "expiring" contract, though Jazz still have team option for next year, plus qualifying offer rights. Rudy's profile says the he'd like to stay once his contract is up.

Lakers Receive: Andre Drummond (ovr 83), Reggie Bullock
Pistons Receive: Roy Hibbert (ovr 77), 2017 LAL 2nd Round Pick
According to Team Intel, Pistons are rebuilding and lists Drummond as on an "expiring" contract, though though still RFA. Drummond's profile says he's likely to test FA.

Lakers Receive: Demarre Carroll, Norman Powell
Raptors Receive: Roy Hibbert (ovr 77), 2017 LAL 2nd Round Pick
This one I can understand I suppose since Raptors need rim protection and have depth at SF but not at C. Still... it probably doesn't accurately reflect Raptors goals for 2015-2016 and the exploding salary cap.

Last edited by PoundedChicken on Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:12 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Some of those I really don't like at first glance, so we're going to evaluate internally come Monday. I went through Trade Finder with Hibbert and took notes as well. Any cases like that, please make sure to mention them in this thread so that we can test them in-house and see if there's some underlying factor that makes the AI think they should go through that isn't immediately apparent, and if further tuning is needed.

I only did one trade so far, but I think it's unrealistic and I just robbed Raptors here. I checked Valanciunas on trade finder and got an offer (as the Pacers): Jordan Hill + Ian Mahinmi <------> Bismack Biyombo, Jonas Valanciunas. That's a custom roster, but I only added some major injuries like Embiid's or Exum's and made some moves that happened in real life. I didn't even update Valanciunas contract to 4yr/64M that he just signed and he is listed as expiring in his 4th year on rookie contract. I did add Bennett instead of a guy named Robers or Roberts (he was 64 ovrl SG on that roster) so maybe that affected things, but it's still hard to imagine why Raptors would do that trade. They're listed as rebuilding on a team intel screen.

Definitely appears to be AI valuations of larger expiring contracts. I just looked for trade offers using probably the most untradeable contract - the recently waived Gerald Wallace (ovr 68, $10.11m). Although I did receive some reasonable offers, I also received the following:

76ers get Tyler Zeller (ovr 76), Avery Bradley (ovr 77)
Celtics get Gerald Wallace, Furkan Aldemir
Yes Boston just offered to take his contract back again.

76ers get ATL 2017 1st Round, Tiago Splitter (ovr 76)
Hawks get Gerald Wallace

76ers get Kemba Walker (ovr 81), Spencer Hawes (ovr 71)
Hornets get Gerald Wallace, Tony Wroten (ovr 75)

76ers get Derrick Favors ovr 82), Bryce Cotton (ovr 67)
Jazz get Gerald Wallace, Isaih Canaan (ovr 72)

Definitely appears to be AI valuations of larger expiring contracts. I just looked for trade offers using probably the most untradeable contract - the recently waived Gerald Wallace (ovr 68, $10.11m). Although I did receive some reasonable offers, I also received the following:

76ers get Tyler Zeller (ovr 76), Avery Bradley (ovr 77)
Celtics get Gerald Wallace, Furkan Aldemir
Yes Boston just offered to take his contract back again.

76ers get ATL 2017 1st Round, Tiago Splitter (ovr 76)
Hawks get Gerald Wallace

76ers get Kemba Walker (ovr 81), Spencer Hawes (ovr 71)
Hornets get Gerald Wallace, Tony Wroten (ovr 75)

76ers get Derrick Favors ovr 82), Bryce Cotton (ovr 67)
Jazz get Gerald Wallace, Isaih Canaan (ovr 72)

Accept 3rd offer, get Kemba then release Hawes.

Definitely appears to be AI valuations of larger expiring contracts. I just looked for trade offers using probably the most untradeable contract - the recently waived Gerald Wallace (ovr 68, $10.11m). Although I did receive some reasonable offers, I also received the following:

76ers get Tyler Zeller (ovr 76), Avery Bradley (ovr 77)
Celtics get Gerald Wallace, Furkan Aldemir
Yes Boston just offered to take his contract back again.

76ers get ATL 2017 1st Round, Tiago Splitter (ovr 76)
Hawks get Gerald Wallace

76ers get Kemba Walker (ovr 81), Spencer Hawes (ovr 71)
Hornets get Gerald Wallace, Tony Wroten (ovr 75)

76ers get Derrick Favors ovr 82), Bryce Cotton (ovr 67)
Jazz get Gerald Wallace, Isaih Canaan (ovr 72)

Accept 3rd offer, get Kemba then release Hawes.

Then you don't have any realism in your franchise. It's not cool

Also got this one while trying to see if player will waive their No Trade Clause (NOT easy).

(Note. Trade Negotiation Difficulty was set to 0 for this offer)

Lakers get Jimmy Butler, Taj Gibson, Doug McDermott
Bulls get Kobe Bryant, Tarik Black, Ryan Kelly, Future 1st Rounder

What I'm noticing is that the cpu is still trying to make lateral trades. They will trade an 80 rated player for another 80 rated player of the same position straight up. I saw the CPU in season 1 do Tony Parker for Jeff Teague. Straight up like that 1 for 1. Both the Spurs and the Hawks were "Contending" at the time of trade.

I think overall ratings still outweigh any other trade factor heavily.

I believe the trade logic gets worse during the draft. You see a lot of promising stars even draft picks traded for lesser guys. Like #4 pick being traded for 17 to select someone.