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Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:40 pm

This is pathetic. Mycareer: I just played in my first NBA game and it was a disaster. Could do absolutely nothing against a mediocre defender. Guy knew what I was gonna do before I did it. Ended up with 0 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists, 2 blocks, 3 turnovers and lost badly.

How does a 55 guy get drafted 11th? C'mon 2k, what are you doing? Why not start us at 0, and have us shoot underhand when we start out? This is really really frustrating and reminds me that it's gonna be an unpleasurable grind AGAIN this year to get to 99. And when I do, here comes 2k17!

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:23 pm

Ikr, i got drafted as 6th pick at 56 lmao. Unless you wanna be a cheating prick and using cheat engine to insta max out yourself, theres gonna be a lotta grind. They should move it up to 65-70 imo.

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:39 pm

Honestly I thought that school\college games help us to grind some skill points and max out our ratings a bit before the draft. but in fact they are just waste our time and absolutely useless (ok maybe they useful for team training but we can do this in some other mode). the good news is that whole 1 season is also for training only 'cuz U didn't affect on anything in the rookie season. so I just maxed out difficulty to the HoF level (all VCs doubled with this difficulty level and because of HoF my team usually loosing by 30 in 4th qtr so there is a lot of game time vs benchers from the other team) and grinding VCs.

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:50 pm

MaxMBox wrote:Honestly I thought that school\college games help us to grind some skill points and max out our ratings a bit before the draft. but in fact they are just waste our time and absolutely useless (ok maybe they useful for team training but we can do this in some other mode). the good news is that whole 1 season is also for training only 'cuz U didn't affect on anything in the rookie season. so I just maxed out difficulty to the HoF level (all VCs doubled with this difficulty level and because of HoF my team usually loosing by 30 in 4th qtr so there is a lot of game time vs benchers from the other team) and grinding VCs.



Man, good idea. I've been playing 12 min quarters at pro level when I should be doing 3 min quarters at HOF just to get VC. I've been trying to get my stats up instead of VC, same stupid thing I did in 2k15.

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:49 am

I can understand not wanting to make things too easy out of the gate, and giving players something to work towards, but...yeah, 55? Someone who is meant to be an exciting prospect should be rated higher than that.

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:38 pm

55 is just too low! 65 could have been more decent.

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:41 pm

Honestly, I wouldn't be against it starting at around 70, and if need be, tuning the level-up system so that you don't hit 99 too quickly. It's a little silly to play the role of someone who's meant to be a big deal, yet is rated around the level of someone who's likely to bounce around the league as the 10th man on the roster for the duration of their career.

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:17 pm

Judge a tree by its fruit. The first thing in the mode isn't your player playing ball. It's Spike Lee explaining how terrific his joint is.

I don't play a basketball video game to see Spike Lee. I play a basketball video game to play basketball.

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:11 pm

fjccommish wrote:Judge a tree by its fruit. The first thing in the mode isn't your player playing ball. It's Spike Lee explaining how terrific his joint is.

I don't play a basketball video game to see Spike Lee. I play a basketball video game to play basketball.



Yeah, I totally don't get where 2k is going with this. They already have a great product. Why waste money and hire "celebrities" like Jay-Z and Spike Lee to try to hype it up further??? We don't need you! 2k15 was perfectly fine and much better than 2k14.

Seriously, did anyone actually buy this game who wasn't a 2k or bball fan JUST because, "hey, Spike Lee's directing...?"

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:30 pm

I don't mind starting at 55, since you start in high school and are supposed to be raw at that point. I just wish the progression was a bit faster and didn't rely so much on VC.

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:36 pm

Andrew wrote:Honestly, I wouldn't be against it starting at around 70, and if need be, tuning the level-up system so that you don't hit 99 too quickly. It's a little silly to play the role of someone who's meant to be a big deal, yet is rated around the level of someone who's likely to bounce around the league as the 10th man on the roster for the duration of their career.

Like I told earlier the progress of MyPlayer in this mode (no matter this is 2K16 or 2K12) is too quick. U start with benchwarmer 55-65 ovl. at the start of the season (or in the midseason in 2K14) and in the end of the season your ovl is about 80. In the next year you hit max rating in the midseason-endseason. then there is no way to grow. I think the best way is to let people buy upgrades for VC to max-out your rating to 80 maybe 85 and then you can upgrade your player further only through in-game trainings. and for MyPARK\Pro-AM there will be separate player that you can max-out for VCs or play with existing from MC.

fjccommish wrote:Judge a tree by its fruit. The first thing in the mode isn't your player playing ball. It's Spike Lee explaining how terrific his joint is.

I don't play a basketball video game to see Spike Lee. I play a basketball video game to play basketball.

I just start another career for C and during this cut-scenes I thought that it's seems that in every cut-scene there should be few variants for gamer to choose from. they directed like there must be some choice. but then they just cut this from the mode for any reason and in fact we have only one storyline.

Kenny wrote:I don't mind starting at 55, since you start in high school and are supposed to be raw at that point. I just wish the progression was a bit faster and didn't rely so much on VC.

agree that If there will be some kind of progression system (not for VC but for other stuff like SP in offline mode for example) during this school\college period then it'll be OK. f.e. starting with 55 ovl in school and then depending of your game upgrade player to 60-70 (during 8 NBA Rookie season I upgrade my player to 60-61 don't remember exactly) then it will be awesome. and pretty reasonable that if U upgrade Ur player to the 75 then you deserve to be 1st pick. if U can upgrade Ur player only to 60 - here you go, 27th pick

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:26 pm

JWL3 wrote:This is really really frustrating and reminds me that it's gonna be an unpleasurable grind AGAIN this year to get to 99. And when I do, here comes 2k17!
I have to think that this is part of their goal. To keep you playing just long enough for the new release. If you max out in a week, you're more likely to quickly bore of the mode, I would imagine. This way they keep you grinding long enough to get longevity out of the game until the following year's release. Doesn't sound like much fun (I don't play the mode, so I have no idea), but on some level I've got to imagine it is designed this way purposefully. As Andrew mentioned, though, if you start a guy at 65-70 and just tweak how progression works, you could accomplish the same thing without the most frustrating early components of being terrible.

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:34 pm

It all has to do with your expectations I guess. I never seek to achieve a 99 rating, because I'd rather my player have realistic flaws than be perfect. I'm more than happy to be a role player my entire career, but I know that's not for everyone.

Definitely agree with bigh0rt, though. The struggle is supposed to keep you interested for a significant period of time.

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:12 pm

Let's be realistic; your starting rating is so low because they want you to buy VC to up your skills in college.

It all has to do with your expectations I guess. I never seek to achieve a 99 rating, because I'd rather my player have realistic flaws than be perfect. I'm more than happy to be a role player my entire career, but I know that's not for everyone.


Sure, but the entire story they've hyped through the roof has you as a "once in a generation" talent, massive hype, Jordan signature shoe in your rookie season, etc. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a player whose skills are so low they'd barely make the Swedish league.

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:14 am

I wish they'd make us higher rated but with more expensive 'attribute buckets' upgrades so we improve slower.

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:19 am

Just pretend you're Anthony Bennett or Kwame Brown and being drafted top 10 with a sub 60 overall makes sense! (I spent my pre-order and quick game vc to make my player competent but shouldn't have had to)

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:53 am

Just curious: what are your stats in the first season rated around 55?

Half my shots get blocked, I play 11min, can't get by my defender, shoot like 20% FG, turn the ball over 3x, 4 ppg, 1assist, 3 rebounds, 2 steals. Every time I go into the game, my team goes down like 10 points. It's just awful. I'm the PG and I want to get rid of the ball asap so I don't mess up my team's win.

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:40 am

JWL3 wrote:Just curious: what are your stats in the first season rated around 55?

Half my shots get blocked, I play 11min, can't get by my defender, shoot like 20% FG, turn the ball over 3x, 4 ppg, 1assist, 3 rebounds, 2 steals. Every time I go into the game, my team goes down like 10 points. It's just awful. I'm the PG and I want to get rid of the ball asap so I don't mess up my team's win.

What level Difficulty are you playing on?

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:08 am

Well. I already up mine to 60 using the VC's I earned through MyGM. I stopped playing after the Houston Rockets and will only continue when my 10k VC arrives. Hopefully in a few hours :D

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:52 am

I have decided to play MyPlayer on Superstar/Sim, those being the online default settings and all. Not the best ideea. Not the worst ideea either, I am starting to become that bench player who gets it kinda right when it matters, but no where close to a sixth man. Anyway, I don't see myself to become the next best player of this generation in this rhythm. You need to be rated anywhere between 70-78 to be competitive on superstar/sim.

Just pretend you're Anthony Bennett or Kwame Brown and being drafted top 10 with a sub 60 overall makes sense


I would rather pretend being waived and playing in Asia, but fuck 2k for not giving us that option :( .
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Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:54 am

I'd say 55 is great for high school. You simply dominate there.

In college I'd expect going to low 60s (61-63, depending on your choices).

At draft time player should be like 68-70.

All done by free upgrades (with limit of upgrades per category).

Re: Starting at 55 rating is utter bs

Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:04 am

JWL3 wrote:I'm the PG and I want to get rid of the ball asap so I don't mess up my team's win.

Same here, starting at 55 with my PG is a little discouraging (I'm only playing at All-Star level). I'm on the floor for the last 2 min of the first two quarters, usually not at all in the 3rd, and sometimes just the last 40 seconds of the last quarter (or not at all if the score is tight), and since during that time my athleticism doesn't allow me to do much offensively or defensively, and I end up losing the ball by dribbling on my fucking foot half of the time, I just wanna get rid of the ball and attempt to set some screens...
It's getting a little better now that my rookie year is over, but I must say that with all of this, combined with the fact that you really make no choice whatsoever in the first part of MC (aside from the choice of university), that has somewhat lessened my interest in that game mode. Shame.
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