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Postby centrifugal on Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:33 am

For all AMD users out there, do yourselves a favor and run 2k15 through Radeonpro. I was under the impression that it wouldn't work because the FPS counter was nowhere to be found. However, it turns out, this doesn't mean Radeonpro is not working. Using radeonpro made nba2k15 a whole different game.

1. Stuttering during cutscenes was gone!
2. Controls became more responsive.
3. Players felt lighter and faster.
4. Graphics became better.

The reason for 1,2 and 3 appears to be Triple Buffering. If you also manage to find the highest antialising settings that don't affect your FPS, your game will be completely stutter free. The reason for 4 is mainly anti-alising settings and ambient occlusion. Especially ambient occlusion makes everything look fantastic. The ceiling lights have this nice bloomy effect around them, the court looks more colorful and lighter, players look better and more realistic, and the floors are more shiny with reflections being more visible.

Just take note that only some of the features can override the game's settings. For instance radeonpro's v-sync won't override your 2k15 settings, so you essentially have to activate v-sync in-game. Anti-alising methods seem to be also codepended between radeonpro and in-game settings. For instance, you can set Antialising mode to superampling in radeonpro, but increasing or lowering from 2x to 8x in radeonpro won't make a difference. You have to play with antialising values in-game.

What worked best for me was adaptive antialising mode, SMAA=Ultra and Ambient Occlusion = High. Also anisotropic optimization, trilinear optimization and enable surface format optimization all turned on, and in-game antialising 4/4. Anyway, I'm still figuring things out, but this has turned the game into a much more pleasant experience than before.
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby landrol on Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:39 am

I take it that RadeonPro is something for newer higher end AMD cards?? And would it be possible for you to post some before and after screenshots?? About to get me a R9 280, so would be VERY helpful.
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby Lagoa on Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:59 am

I have a R9 270X here and Radeon Pro just not work...

Disable AA ingame....put all options on Radeon Pro and game still without AA....set Vxync off in game....puta all options on vsync on and triple buffer on Radeon Pro and just not work, game run with vsync off and screen tearing.

Sorry man, but IMO, it´s just a placebo.
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby intruda on Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:18 pm

Try to disable steam overlay.
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby MIND__LINK on Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:30 pm

Radeonpro does nothing for my 2K15 but many other games work with it
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby J Smoove on Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:40 pm

Lagoa wrote:I have a R9 270X here and Radeon Pro just not work...

Disable AA ingame....put all options on Radeon Pro and game still without AA....set Vxync off in game....puta all options on vsync on and triple buffer on Radeon Pro and just not work, game run with vsync off and screen tearing.

Sorry man, but IMO, it´s just a placebo.

I've got a 270x too. As u said nothing is working on RadeonPro, I've tried turning off game V-Sync and AA and enabling through RadeonPro several times. Nothing seems to work man. Because of that I had to turn on both options in game. Micro stutter during the cut scenes still exist.
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby J Smoove on Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:13 pm

I've got a major problem now. After using your Radeon Pro settings now I'm only getting 48FPS. Before following your instructions I was getting solid 60FPS, even though there was a little micro stuttering. I don't know what went wrong. Now it's lagging like hell. I've removed Radeon pro and all of it's profiles. As I said before now the game lags bigtime, do you know how to fix this?
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby Vlad2010 on Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:46 pm

J Smoove wrote:I've got a major problem now. After using your Radeon Pro settings now I'm only getting 48FPS. Before following your instructions I was getting solid 60FPS, even though there was a little micro stuttering. I don't know what went wrong. Now it's lagging like hell. I've removed Radeon pro and all of it's profiles. As I said before now the game lags bigtime, do you know how to fix this?

RadeonPro could not affect your NBA2K15 performance, because it is trite does not work with NBA 2K15 at the moment. Look for the problem in the other. Try to delete the video config file and change your video settings again.
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby sticky-fingers on Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:36 am

centrifugal wrote:For all AMD users out there, do yourselves a favor and run 2k15 through Radeonpro. I was under the impression that it wouldn't work because the FPS counter was nowhere to be found. However, it turns out, this doesn't mean Radeonpro is not working. Using radeonpro made nba2k15 a whole different game.

1. Stuttering during cutscenes was gone!
2. Controls became more responsive.
3. Players felt lighter and faster.
4. Graphics became better.

The reason for 1,2 and 3 appears to be Triple Buffering. If you also manage to find the highest antialising settings that don't affect your FPS, your game will be completely stutter free. The reason for 4 is mainly anti-alising settings and ambient occlusion. Especially ambient occlusion makes everything look fantastic. The ceiling lights have this nice bloomy effect around them, the court looks more colorful and lighter, players look better and more realistic, and the floors are more shiny with reflections being more visible.

Just take note that only some of the features can override the game's settings. For instance radeonpro's v-sync won't override your 2k15 settings, so you essentially have to activate v-sync in-game. Anti-alising methods seem to be also codepended between radeonpro and in-game settings. For instance, you can set Antialising mode to superampling in radeonpro, but increasing or lowering from 2x to 8x in radeonpro won't make a difference. You have to play with antialising values in-game.

What worked best for me was adaptive antialising mode, SMAA=Ultra and Ambient Occlusion = High. Also anisotropic optimization, trilinear optimization and enable surface format optimization all turned on, and in-game antialising 4/4. Anyway, I'm still figuring things out, but this has turned the game into a much more pleasant experience than before.


Interesting if true but can you tell us :
1 - your amd drivers version ?
2 - your radeon pro version ?
3 - your CCC config for 2K15 ?
4 - your radeon pro config for 2K15 ?
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby Uncle Drew on Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:06 am

I'm partial to Nvidia cards. Never liked Radeon.
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby J Smoove on Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:11 am

Vlad2010 wrote:
J Smoove wrote:I've got a major problem now. After using your Radeon Pro settings now I'm only getting 48FPS. Before following your instructions I was getting solid 60FPS, even though there was a little micro stuttering. I don't know what went wrong. Now it's lagging like hell. I've removed Radeon pro and all of it's profiles. As I said before now the game lags bigtime, do you know how to fix this?

RadeonPro could not affect your NBA2K15 performance, because it is trite does not work with NBA 2K15 at the moment. Look for the problem in the other. Try to delete the video config file and change your video settings again.

I tried deleting everything. The only thing that worked for me was, I've deleted some registry entries related to the game. First I opened Registry Editor. Then used "2K Sports" and "NBA 2K15" keywords to find entries. After deleting them the game got back to it's normal state.
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby centrifugal on Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:47 am

I've been quite negative about 2k15, so I think it's time I posted some positive news. Guys you had me thinking I was crazy. I had radeonpro working just before I had opened this thread and the next time I tried to run 2k15 through radeonpro it just didn't work. It was also quite late at night the first time it did work, so I thought maybe I was so sleepy that I had a placebo effect and thought that it worked.

It turns out I wasn't sleepy and had no placebo effect. Radeonpro does work! You just need to do the following process everytime you launch the game:

1. In radeonpro right click on the exe file (assuming you've already added the exe as a profile)
2. Click on "Apply now"
3. Right click again
4. Run game

You're done. Radeonpro takes effect. FPS counter doesn't work, and I'm not sure that all features work, but now's the time for the proof. Please watch all videos below in 1080p. You have seen my videos without radeonpro in my Cheese thread like this one:

RADEON PRO OFF
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Now compare them to this, which is from the same actual game Spurs vs Thunder:

RADEON PRO ON
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As you can see the game with radeonpro looks way better. The players look darker, the jersey shades look darker and more defined, sweat is more prominent, there is slightly more shine on the courts and the antialised edges look much better. There is a slight FPS drop sometimes, but the quality in image makes up for it.

Here comes my radeonpro settings:

Visual Tab
Anti-alising: Override application settings (2X)
Anti-alising filter: Multi-sampling
Anti-alising Mode: Supersample
Anisotropic Filtering: 16X
Tesselation Control: 64x
Vertical Sync: Always On

Advanced
Force Triple Buffering
Texture Filtering Quality: High Quality
Mipmap Quality: High Quality

Tweaks
V-sync: Always On
Triple Buffering: Checked
Lock Frame Rate up to monitor's refresh rate: Checked
Disable Aero: Checked
Force Process High Quality: Checked
CPU Affinity: All 8 cores checked

SweetFX: Enabled (However it doesn't work unfortunately, checked by clicking on monochrome and as you can see it's in color)

In order to achieve the same result as on the video, you need to set in-game antialising to 4.
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby Patr1ck on Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:48 am

What are your AO settings? I have mine set to HBAO - Medium. I couldn't get High and Ultra to work, and Volumetric caused very dark shadows on the top of players shoulders.

I have similar settings to yours but left Tessellation control at AMD optimized since this game probably doesn't use it.

V-sync: Always Off
Triple Buffering: Checked
Lock Frame Rate up to monitor's refresh rate: Unchecked

I might mess with these frame caps since my videocard is running at 90 degrees celsius after playing the game.
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby centrifugal on Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:17 pm

My AO settings are HBAO - High.

I think V-sync control through Radeonpro is not working, as I tried to lock frames to 45 (dynamic vsync) and it'd go to 60 frames regardless.

I'll try playing around with AO and tesselation control during the weekend when I'll have some more free time and see if they work and if it does what difference does it make.

What definitely works is the optimization settings in the Advanced Tab. I checked all (anisotropic, trilinear and surface format). On the other hand I did keep texture quality and mipmap quality settings to "High Quality". I also sacrificed some image quality by lowering the in-game antialising from 4 to 2 and crowd from high to medium in order to make gameplay better.

The difference was like day and night. The result was much more responsive players and smooth animations. You might want to try these if your gpu gets too hot and see if it helps.
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby Zenoni on Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:20 pm

Same thing as Lagoa, R9 270X RadeonPro does not work. Tested it with other games runs fine, don't know why just doesn't work with 2K15.
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby rakers8 on Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:38 pm

RadeonPro works for me. For those of you wondering if it's working or not, have you enabled the sound queues for RP in Windows?

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Also, I started a new thread here that some may haven't noticed but the CURE to all my graphics problems was finally setting the sample rate and bit depth of my sound card to 16bit, 44,100 KHZ. I tried every adjustment imaginable in the 2K options, RadeonPro, and the Videosettings.CFG. I tried running as ADMIN, setting affinity...literally every fix on the internet about poor performance with 2k15. The graphics looked terribly laggy and I couldn't get my frame rate above 40-45 (and it averaged around 20). Changing the sound format in windows made everything go away and now I'm running at 60FPS with VSync on a 5 year old system (Medium to High gfx settings). A friend with a better system than mine was suffering from "input lag" and choppy performance online and told me the sound fix cured his problems as well. So there's got to be SOMETHING to it.

If anyone wants me to share any of my settings, I'd be happy to because I know how frustrating it was to optimize this game to play SMOOTH. The reason I posted here in the first place is because while I was researching it, this site came up several times (including this particular post) with various fixes. Someone on here mentioned the game working PERFECTLY with the sound disabled (it did) so that led me to try the KHZ thing.

Anyway, here's a thumbnail of what I'm talking about.
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Good luck ya'll - the game is dope
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby skoadam on Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:47 pm

Hello radeon race, can you tell me me why 8970M(almost AMD Radeon R9 270X) have drops to 20 from time to time, 2minutes smooth 60fps and suddenly drop to 20-30fps, and im not talking about cutscenes. Normal gameplay. This is my first ever radeon in my long life and i just dont know should i just use newest catalyst and thats it? should i change something in drivers setting? No matter if i choose high texture quality or medium game works the same. Smooth 60fps, but from time to time random situations drops to 20-30fps. What else should i try?

Checked my GPU usage...its around 60%, when game start to drop usage is 100%. It takes 3-4seconds. Whats wrong? Game or my gpu?
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby Mile23 on Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:28 pm

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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby corleone2k on Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:52 pm

Uncle Drew wrote:I'm partial to Nvidia cards. Never liked Radeon.

duuhhhhh!!!! :crazyeyes: :lol: you should try ATI Radeon cards especially R9 series because they are the best! simple argument/equation Xbox 360/Xbox One & PS4 = Radeon Cards! 'nuff said. hehehehe.... peace dude! just my personal take..... :mrgreen: :wink: :cool: :roll: :shock: :applaud: :cheeky:
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby ThePointForward on Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:44 pm

corleone2k wrote:you should try ATI Radeon cards especially R9 series because they are the best!

Tell that to my gtx 970. I think it didn't get the memo.
corleone2k wrote:simple argument/equation Xbox 360/Xbox One & PS4 = Radeon Cards! 'nuff said.

That is why the consoles struggle to run games in 1080p (a fact).
corleone2k wrote::mrgreen: :wink: :cool: :roll: :shock: :applaud: :cheeky:

The hell is this?
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby corleone2k on Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:19 pm

Dommy73 wrote:
corleone2k wrote:you should try ATI Radeon cards especially R9 series because they are the best!

Tell that to my gtx 970. I think it didn't get the memo.
corleone2k wrote:simple argument/equation Xbox 360/Xbox One & PS4 = Radeon Cards! 'nuff said.

That is why the consoles struggle to run games in 1080p (a fact).
corleone2k wrote::mrgreen: :wink: :cool: :roll: :shock: :applaud: :cheeky:

The hell is this?

wahahahahahahahahahahah! kudos to your point of view. :bowdown2: :applaud: :cheeky: :applaud: :bowdown:
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby info-0 on Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:53 am

RadeonPro development was stopped as the guy who made this now works for Raptr (the ones who put Gaming Evolved app in AMD installer).

So yeah, switched back to ATT (ati tray tools) and it works with any game and any card I throwed at it.

Plus never was a fan of bloated RP myself. Way too many options. ;)
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby Thizzweed on Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:31 pm

I'm having some problems with 2k15. Before the patch I would really only get audio stutter and frame drops while in the shootaround area of my career. After patch #3 I started receiving this same problem in MyPark mode. The only way I have been able to solve this problem is to completely disable my audio devices, but it can get pretty boring playing without sound and being able to talk to friends. I read a suggestion to use Radeon Pro and set triple buffering as well as Dynamic Framerate control. Now I'm running into a problem where RadeonPro seems to not be doing anything, It does not even move 2k15 to the "recently played" list of games like every other game does when I launch it. Is anyone else having this problem? If so how did you solve it?
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby Patr1ck on Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:50 am

Two things i read that might help you. Disable your video cards hd audio device(unless that is one you to hear the game). Change the output audio format to 16-bit, 44100. Some have reported that this fixes stuttering.
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Re: Radeonpro + 2k15 = different game

Postby Thizzweed on Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:10 am

Two things i read that might help you. Disable your video cards hd audio device(unless that is one you to hear the game). Change the output audio format to 16-bit, 44100. Some have reported that this fixes stuttering


Hey Pdub, thanks for trying to help me. I have personally tried doing both of these also, neither of them really helped for me.
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