I Have to Be a Thug in MyCareer

[erudain]

They REALLY need to add in a white guys voice in this. Seeing my white PF sound like a black guy STILL weirds me out lol.

My blue eyed, blonde, white-as-milk Argentinian SF talks like a guy who has lived all his life in a ghetto in south side Chicago.....talk about immersion

[capwulf]

This is a disgusting thread. I had no idea there were so many closet racists on this site.
The fact that this thread is still open is disturbing and begs some difficult questions about the moderation.
Let me be clear. Sounding 'black' does not equal criminal. This whole "of the flesh" rhetoric is a way on attempting to put a pseudo-intellectual face on a patently racist philosophy. Language is not right or wrong it doesnt define ethics or morality. Its a way of vocally expressing ideas, thats it. If you have issue with ones way of speaking and think someone is below you or less intelligent because of it , then you are displaying YOUR ignorance and intolerance.
I was raised in a neighborhood of intelligent hardworking honest people, who also happen to speak in ebonics. My grandmother was a doctor my grandfather was a detective. My dad was an engineer my mother was a pricipal. And you, my good sir, are an idiot.
And dis is all I'll say about dat.

[landrol]

This is a disgusting thread. I had no idea there were so many closet racists on this site.
The fact that this thread is still open is disturbing and begs some difficult questions about the moderation.
Let me be clear. Sounding 'black' does not equal criminal. This whole "of the flesh" rhetoric is a way on attempting to put a pseudo-intellectual face on a patently racist philosophy. Language is not right or wrong it doesnt define ethics or morality. Its a way of vocally expressing ideas, thats it. If you have issue with ones way of speaking and think someone is below you or less intelligent because of it , then you are displaying YOUR ignorance and intolerance.
I was raised in a neighborhood of intelligent hardworking honest people, who also happen to speak in ebonics. My grandmother was a doctor my grandfather was a detective. My dad was an engineer my mother was a pricipal. And you, my good sir, are an idiot.
And dis is all I'll say about dat.

"I" didn't mention anything about being my MyPlayer sounding like a "thug", but he definitely doesn't sound white. They need to be more diverse when it comes to your MyPlayer voice. White, asian, black, different European accents....etc. People have their own perceptions based on what they've encountered in life, or haven't encountered. Someone hearing that MyPlayer voice, based on the ppl they've been around, might PERCEIVE that as sounding like a "thug". Doesn't mean they are racist in any way lol. Stop being so jumpy with the race card, based on my own perceptions, I don't see anything blatantly racist about this thread.

[Nightfly67]

This is a disgusting thread. I had no idea there were so many closet racists on this site.
The fact that this thread is still open is disturbing and begs some difficult questions about the moderation.
Let me be clear. Sounding 'black' does not equal criminal. This whole "of the flesh" rhetoric is a way on attempting to put a pseudo-intellectual face on a patently racist philosophy. Language is not right or wrong it doesnt define ethics or morality. Its a way of vocally expressing ideas, thats it. If you have issue with ones way of speaking and think someone is below you or less intelligent because of it , then you are displaying YOUR ignorance and intolerance.
I was raised in a neighborhood of intelligent hardworking honest people, who also happen to speak in ebonics. My grandmother was a doctor my grandfather was a detective. My dad was an engineer my mother was a pricipal. And you, my good sir, are an idiot.
And dis is all I'll say about dat.

What's racist about finding that the voices sound like that of a black person? I don't think anyone here is taking an issue with the way a person is speaking, just that it would be nice to have more variety. Black people do have their own lingo, just like white people, Hispanics, Asians... The funny thing is, you just called it "Ebonics" yourself.

[zz21]

To be honest i would really like a pitch shift option for the voices. they always seem kind of high pitched except for last years.

[Troyork]

What's racist about finding that the voices sound like that of a black person?

1) You're confusing cultural norms and racial norms. If a black person, a white person, a Hispanic person and an Asian person were to live within 1 block from each other, there's an 80% chance that they'd actually talk with the same kind of speech.
2) To be a bit more pedantic, saying someone "sounds like a black person" implies that they are suddenly less of a black person if they don't speak like that, even if they are visibly black.

And then there's the problem with the original post.

[landrol]

What's racist about finding that the voices sound like that of a black person?

1) You're confusing cultural norms and racial norms. If a black person, a white person, a Hispanic person and an Asian person were to live within 1 block from each other, there's an 80% chance that they'd actually talk with the same kind of speech.
2) To be a bit more pedantic, saying someone "sounds like a black person" implies that they are suddenly less of a black person if they don't speak like that, even if they are visibly black.

And then there's the problem with the original post.

lolwut?!? WTF are you smoking?? And are you sellin any of it? Need to get my hands on THAT shit right there!! lol

[Nightfly67]

What's racist about finding that the voices sound like that of a black person?

1) You're confusing cultural norms and racial norms. If a black person, a white person, a Hispanic person and an Asian person were to live within 1 block from each other, there's an 80% chance that they'd actually talk with the same kind of speech.
2) To be a bit more pedantic, saying someone "sounds like a black person" implies that they are suddenly less of a black person if they don't speak like that, even if they are visibly black.

And then there's the problem with the original post.

I'm not confusing anything really. It's a simple fact that most black people talk a certain way. I live in a very mixed neighborhood, and the black people talk different than the white people. So do the muslims, Americans/Canadians/Australians and so forth. If I hear a white person talking like the MyPlayer voices, I will say that that white person talks like a black person. If a black person talks like Hispanic person, I will say that that black person talks like a Hispanic person. Nothing racial about that at all, unless you like to pull out the race card for everything.

Your second point is quite racially motivated. Of course a black person isn't any less black when they don't speak "ebonics". That doesn't even make any sense! If you feel that way, then you must be insecure with your own identity,

[Troyork]

I'm not confusing anything really. It's a simple fact that most black people talk a certain way.

First, don't think that using the word "most" exempts what you said from being a stereotype in addition to being an anecdotal fallacy. Second, can you tell me where I can find this fact in my anthropology textbook?

If I hear a white person talking like the MyPlayer voices, I will say that that white person talks like a black person. If a black person talks like Hispanic person, I will say that that black person talks like a Hispanic person. Nothing racial about that at all, unless you like to pull out the race card for everything.

Recap: you literally mentioned race in both of those scenarios then said there's nothing racial about this. You also are saying that I am pulling out the race card because of something you explicitly said about race. Just want to get this clear.

Your second point is quite racially motivated.

You say that as if this discussion is not about race.

[landrol]

I'm not confusing anything really. It's a simple fact that most black people talk a certain way.

First, don't think that using the word "most" exempts what you said from being a stereotype in addition to being an anecdotal fallacy. Second, can you tell me where I can find this fact in my anthropology textbook?

If I hear a white person talking like the MyPlayer voices, I will say that that white person talks like a black person. If a black person talks like Hispanic person, I will say that that black person talks like a Hispanic person. Nothing racial about that at all, unless you like to pull out the race card for everything.

Recap: you literally mentioned race in both of those scenarios then said there's nothing racial about this. You also are saying that I am pulling out the race card because of something you explicitly said about race. Just want to get this clear.

Your second point is quite racially motivated.

You say that as if this discussion is not about race.

So, me(as a Caucasian man) having a Caucasian player, and not wanting him to sound black.......is me being a racist?? What planet are you on man??

[bigh0rt]

We were in a semi-reasonable and useful conversation for a small stretch there. But we've wandered too far astray and I see no hood coming from this, nor is it really relevant to the game anymore. People have weighed in. Some real good suggestions have been me tioned, and ithers have come off as pretty unintelligent. Anyway, IBTL.