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Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:41 am

Dommy73 wrote:Last I checked, PS4's CPU is running at 1.6GHz, so devs are forced to multithread. 2 threads just aren't going to cut it IMO.


The PS4 and Xbox One use AMD CPUs based on Jaguar, a CPU architecture designed with mobile in mind. Modern Intel CPUs blow away AMD CPUs in terms of performance per core and can run at almost twice the clock speed. Plus i3's actually do have hyperthreading.

crazy_me_87 wrote:depends heavily on WHAT I3. a 1.5ghz Laptop version of a I3 or a 3.5GHZ Desktop version. thats a huge difference Troyork so please be a bit more precise


Good point. However, Jaguar was not designed to be compared to Core CPUs, laptop or desktop. You compare Jaguar to Atom. To be fair, I think it's obvious that, even with a Broadwell i3, Intel's graphics won't cut it. You'll need a discrete GPU, so no chance of running this on say, a Surface Pro 3.

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:08 am

i hope i3 processor is enough to run so i dont have to upgrade.

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:19 am

what kind of fps can i expect?

Asus 144hz 1080p monitor
Win 7 Pro (64 bit)
Intel 4670K 4.5GHz (1.28V) Cooled by Corsair H100i
Nvidia GTX 780 SLI 1GHz GPU Clock (3.2GHz Memory Clock) 3GB GDDR5 384 Bit Bus Width
8GB (4GBx2) DDR3 1600MHz
Samsung 840 Pro 512GB SATA 3 or 3TB Seagate Barracuda 64MB Cache 7200RPM
PSU Corsair AX 860

i also have 3D Vision 2 and does anyone know if the game will be compatible thanks

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:25 am

Do you guys think i could run 2k15 decently? Im only using a laptop

CPU: i7 4500u 1.8Ghz Turbo boost 3.0Ghz
GPU: GeForce 750m 4GB DDR3
Ram: 8GB DDR3
HDD: 1TB

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:33 am

>The PS4 and Xbox One use AMD CPUs based on Jaguar, a CPU architecture designed with mobile in mind.
Yes, I'm aware.
>Modern Intel CPUs blow away AMD CPUs in terms of performance per core and can run at almost twice the clock speed.
Blocked thread is blocked thread, you'll just get it done faster, question is if it will be fast enough.
>Plus i3's actually do have hyperthreading.
Which is mostly irrelevant, since hyperthreading provides 5% performance boost at max when gaming. We tried it.

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:42 am

Yall think i am crazy? Just wait and see.. hehe.

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:48 am

Yall say 1 year old hardware. Keep in mind also how long they have been developing that hardware before they released it. Probably 3-5 years. Dont think they changed their hardware the last minute coz something stronger comes out. So thats my prediction. Dual core for the minimum and atleast an i3 for the recommended. Thats just my thoughts.

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:53 am

Dommy73 wrote:Blocked thread is blocked thread, you'll just get it done faster, question is if it will be fast enough.


You might need to clarify because this comes off as "ehh... it'll just be fast. What's important is... will it be fast?"

Dommy73 wrote:Which is mostly irrelevant, since hyperthreading provides 5% performance boost at max when gaming. We tried it.


I'd like to know which games you tested on, since 99% of PC games pretty much dont take advantage of it... shoot, 99% of PC games don't even take advantage of quadcore processors.

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:58 am

tatlopuyo wrote:Yall say 1 year old hardware. Keep in mind also how long they have been developing that hardware before they released it. Probably 3-5 years. Dont think they changed their hardware the last minute coz something stronger comes out. So thats my prediction. Dual core for the minimum and atleast an i3 for the recommended. Thats just my thoughts.


I3 for recommended yep.. sry but that actually sounds crazy

not ONE recently released game wich was ported from PS4 has such low requierments as you claim

why would 2k15 be any different than any game that was released for PS4 and PC this far?

only because you wish?

you do realise that when 2k14 on the PS4 came out everyone even those who never heard of NBA where amazed by the Graphics... it was unanimously the best looking next gen game

and now you say we shall believe it is WAY LESS demanding than every other PS4 Port??

thats just stupid, sry to say that

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:18 am

crazy_me_87 wrote:
tatlopuyo wrote:Yall say 1 year old hardware. Keep in mind also how long they have been developing that hardware before they released it. Probably 3-5 years. Dont think they changed their hardware the last minute coz something stronger comes out. So thats my prediction. Dual core for the minimum and atleast an i3 for the recommended. Thats just my thoughts.


I3 for recommended yep.. sry but that actually sounds crazy

not ONE recently released game wich was ported from PS4 has such low requierments as you claim

why would 2k15 be any different than any game that was released for PS4 and PC this far?

only because you wish?

you do realise that when 2k14 on the PS4 came out everyone even those who never heard of NBA where amazed by the Graphics... it was unanimously the best looking next gen game

and now you say we shall believe it is WAY LESS demanding than every other PS4 Port??

thats just stupid, sry to say that


PS4 Port, not PS4 port – not so important i think. Much more important – engine architecture, devs, who porting it to PC, optimization. Just watch a lot of PC ports from PS3/XBOX360 – some games run perfectly, some lagging crazy with crap graphics (direct port, without optimization).

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:29 am

Troyork wrote:
Dommy73 wrote:Blocked thread is blocked thread, you'll just get it done faster, question is if it will be fast enough.

You might need to clarify because this comes off as "ehh... it'll just be fast. What's important is... will it be fast?"

Well I should've said I was after physical cores, not threads. My mistake there.

Troyork wrote:
Dommy73 wrote:Which is mostly irrelevant, since hyperthreading provides 5% performance boost at max when gaming. We tried it.

I'd like to know which games you tested on, since 99% of PC games pretty much dont take advantage of it... shoot, 99% of PC games don't even take advantage of quadcore processors.

We did it as part of an experiment in paralel computations class last year and tried it on newer games, which actually support quad core cpus as they're usually recommended for them. I can recall BF3, Skyrim and ArmA 2.

I recently read nice comparison: "Hyperthreading is like eating with both hands. You'll save time used for reaching down to the plate, but that doesn't mean your mouth can take more food.
Anyway hyperthreading is basically just an intelligent manager.

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:50 am

Vlad2010 wrote:
crazy_me_87 wrote:
tatlopuyo wrote:Yall say 1 year old hardware. Keep in mind also how long they have been developing that hardware before they released it. Probably 3-5 years. Dont think they changed their hardware the last minute coz something stronger comes out. So thats my prediction. Dual core for the minimum and atleast an i3 for the recommended. Thats just my thoughts.


I3 for recommended yep.. sry but that actually sounds crazy

not ONE recently released game wich was ported from PS4 has such low requierments as you claim

why would 2k15 be any different than any game that was released for PS4 and PC this far?

only because you wish?

you do realise that when 2k14 on the PS4 came out everyone even those who never heard of NBA where amazed by the Graphics... it was unanimously the best looking next gen game

and now you say we shall believe it is WAY LESS demanding than every other PS4 Port??

thats just stupid, sry to say that


PS4 Port, not PS4 port – not so important i think. Much more important – engine architecture, devs, who porting it to PC, optimization. Just watch a lot of PC ports from PS3/XBOX360 – some games run perfectly, some lagging crazy with crap graphics (direct port, without optimization).


and 2k is some superhuman company who will optimize 2k15 way better than every other game 2014 has been?

they can only do so much... why are some of you so adamant about that o.O are you afraid the requierements are too high? is anything implying 2k wont do some optimizing miracle blasphemic??

i just dont get it.

common sense would be to look at other recent games and expect simmillar things.. but nope some of you are like "nooo 2k15 is a completly different story"... huh ?? why? why the hell should it be less demanding than Fifa 15?? both sports games both next gen... what miracle is 2k supposed to pull of to make it work with less than other sports games? o.O

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:55 am

crazy_me_87 wrote:and 2k is some superhuman company who will optimize 2k15 way better than every other game 2014 has been?

No, but their devs can gain superhuman programming abilities.

The Ballmer Peak is real.

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:12 am

Dommy73 wrote:
crazy_me_87 wrote:and 2k is some superhuman company who will optimize 2k15 way better than every other game 2014 has been?

No, but their devs can gain superhuman programming abilities.

The Ballmer Peak is real.



:D lets hope so.. or some here who claim 2k15 will run at 7-9 yo PCs (dual core.. 2gb ram...) will look really silly

my PC is 5yo.. and only will be ok propably because i did what most here seem to be horrifingly afraid of.. upgrade..

i got 4gb of extra Ram to get 8gb now.. and replaced my Radeon 4890 with a gtx 660 OC 2gb

it cost me 150€ total and was dead simple to install..

i dont know why many here seem so close to panic

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:24 am

Official system requirements
Minimum:
OS: Windows 7 64 bit or higher
Processor: Intel Core2 Duo or better
Memory: 2 or more GB RAM
Graphics: DirectX 10.1 compatible (512 MB) or better
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Hard Drive: 50 or more GB available space
Sound Card: 9.0c compatible
Additional Notes: Keyboard or dual-analog gamepad
Recommended:
OS: Windows 7 64 bit or higher
Processor: Intel Core i7 or better
Memory: 4 or more GB RAM
Graphics: DirectX 11.0 compatible (2 GB) or better
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Hard Drive: 50 or more MB available space
Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c compatible
Additional Notes: Dual-analog gamepad
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Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:25 am

Not sure if this has been posted, but the system requirements have been released!

http://store.steampowered.com/app/282350/ Check them out for yourself.

System Requirements
Minimum:
OS: Windows 7 64 bit or higher
Processor: Intel Core2 Duo or better
Memory: 2 or more GB RAM
Graphics: DirectX 10.1 compatible (512 MB) or better
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Hard Drive: 50 or more GB available space
Sound Card: 9.0c compatible
Additional Notes: Keyboard or dual-analog gamepad


Recommended:

OS: Windows 7 64 bit or higher
Processor: Intel Core i7 or better
Memory: 4 or more GB RAM
Graphics: DirectX 11.0 compatible (2 GB) or better
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Hard Drive: 50 or more MB available space
Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c compatible
Additional Notes: Dual-analog gamepad

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:29 am

Dommy73 wrote:We did it as part of an experiment in paralel computations class last year and tried it on newer games, which actually support quad core cpus as they're usually recommended for them. I can recall BF3, Skyrim and ArmA 2.


Prime examples of games that don't utilize the CPU very well to begin with. They will run nearly the same whether you use dual core. quad core, hexacore... or even single core with hyperthreading (source).

And that eating analogy is bad because hands do not process (or digest, in this case) food, but threads actually can process data. The hands in that analogy would be... having multiple pools of RAM? Hyperthreading would be like eating with two, albeit smaller, mouths.

Also, just as a note, the PS4 and Xbox One allocate 2 of the cores to the OS, so games only can utilize 6 of the CPU's cores (source).

EDIT: Well, oh, look at that. Core 2 Duo in the minimum settings.

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:34 am

These requirements are a little vague...
i7 What? Details?
Just any Directx 11 card?

I hope they come out with some more detailed requirements soon.

Anybody with 32 bit windows is going to have to upgrade to 64 bit.

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:37 am

columbusbobby23 wrote:These requirements are a little vague...
i7 What? Details?
Just any Directx 11 card?


Game requirements are never really specific like that (and really don't need to be).

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:39 am

Troyork wrote:I'd like to know which games you tested on, since 99% of PC games pretty much dont take advantage of it... shoot, 99% of PC games don't even take advantage of quadcore processors.


And those 99% of games don't matter anymore as they are older games based on older game engines. Almost every AAA game from the past two years should use at least 4 cores. Watch Dogs seems to use up to 6 in some reviews I read. Dommy's comment was about how HyperThreading isn't that useful, aka the same thing you were mentioning in the comment I quoted. A desktop i3 is almost certain to be safe because it has a good CPU architecture. I can't say the same for AMD Dual-Cores or Intel Core 2 Duos. If you think games from now on will only utilize 2 cores you are in for trouble.

.:edit:.

Have you played Skyrim? That game has a CPU bottleneck and there's a hell of a difference from playing on a old Dual-Core to a Quad-Core. BF3 not so much. X1 CPU is around 1.6-1.7GHz but the PS4 supposedly overclocks/boosts up to 2.7GHz according to Sony. The reasons you will see recommendations for more than Quad-Cores is because AMD CPUs are a bit of a bottleneck compared to Intel CPUs. A FX 4XXX series can't match a i5 so a FX 6XXX or 8XXX is recommended. Minimum specs won't mean a smooth 30FPS even on low settings.

.:edit:.

Just saw Steam's Requirements. Basically Recommended Settings show that you will probably need a top notch Quad-Core aka i7/i5. That means a weak CPU aka the minimum requirements Core 2 Duo's luck will end with the minimum settings. Now that we know vague requirements everyone can decide what they do.

.:edit:.

My fears have been confirmed. At least 50GB of space. Space isn't an issue, it's the stupid data cap on my broadband connection. Hopefully they sell physical disks, otherwise I'll just download it on the school campus.

Must haves

64-bit OS
50GB+ of Storage Space
DX10.1/11 Video Cards

The rest is up to the user's choice now. Good luck
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Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:45 am

^I know those games don't really matter. Most games that came out pre-2012 don't really take advantage of the CPU like newer, "next-gen" PC games do, so the experiment he did would have not been a good foundation for prediction on newer games. That's specifically why I asked him. Also, to be clear, my stance wasn't that i3 was all you needed to game maxed out at 60fps. I was just saying that the game would certainly be playable on one.

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:45 am

OMG GUYS steams requirements are confirmed to be true confirmed by 2k they optimized the game SOOOO WELL but its grand theft auto IV all over again same requirements for both this is amazing so does this mean i can get 60 fps with these computer specs

CPU:Intel Core2 Duo E8500 3.16 GHZ
GPU:Nvidia Gt 520 2 GB
RAM:4 GB

do u guys think now that i can play 60 fps on lowest settings and will upgrading my ram to 8 gb help my frames even go higher

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:49 am

@Troyork - Yes I know what you meant. Just to be clear wasn't attacking any of your statements

@djherokiller - Well it's good news for everyone with not so powerful PCs. Your CPU will probably be fine for the lowest settings, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to expect 60FPS with a GT 520. Who knows. Going from 4GB to 8GB of RAM is not going to magically help you gain a significant amount of Frames for your FPS.

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:54 am

xKrNMBoYx wrote:@Troyork - Yes I know what you meant. Just to be clear wasn't attacking any of your statements

@djherokiller - Well it's good news for everyone with not so powerful PCs. Your CPU will probably be fine for the lowest settings, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to expect 60FPS with a GT 520. Who knows. Going from 4GB to 8GB of RAM is not going to magically help you gain a significant amount of Frames for your FPS.


the requirements are official guys but im hoping for a more of a detailed requirements when this goes up on canyourunit.com because all it says is intel core2duo or higher doesnt say the model and for even reccomanded for gpu it says direct x 11 video card with 2gb of video ram or higher or something like that and i have a nvidia gt 520 that is dx11 with 2 gb of video ram so does that mean my card also fits the reccomanded like thats what ppl will think so im hoping its more specific

Re: 2K15 PC Specifications Speculations

Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:57 am

@djherokiller - Yes the System Requirements need to be more specifics. A 7750 with 2GB would get killed by a 7850 with 1GB of VRAM. The video card needs to be good in general and not in one specification. For now your PC matches the requirements and even without them you will be able to play the game. But as I said expecting 60FPS on any setting because your PC met the "Minimum Requirements" is a stretch.

Don't worry much about your CPU for now. At 3.XXGHz there shouldn't be that many Core 2 Duos that are faster at stock settings. You can always overclock it a little or a lot, then there is the Phenom II X4 CPU you have access too. What you need to do is upgrade to a 64-Bit version of Windows if you're running a 32-bit version.
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