Any news about NBA 2K15 for PC?

[agolden]

shhh I made a stupid post. edited.

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[JaoSming]

4s look a lot like 5s huh

[agolden]

4s look a lot like 5s huh

yeah i just noticed that ahaha. I thought it said pre-order, and then I saw "NBA 2K". Whoops. I guess reserve is different than pre-order.

[jmmontoro]

A lot of companies upgraded their PC titles to NG category so it would surprise me a lot if 2K don't for NBA.
Either this companies have internal information that the NG market didn't grow anything at all like they expected and that a big portion of the pie they wanted was taken by PCs or that it's very cheap for them to port titles to PCs and a release would mean profit no matter how low it sells or a combination of the both.
Bare in mind that this theories and elaborate schemes are completely mine and they could and most probably are completely inaccurate.

[skoadam]

And im asking again, why 2k(and other studios ofc), why in the hell cant release same product same price- pc and consoles. I want to pay same price for this game. Its a niche market game so i have no problem to pay 60 or more $- 99% of pc players thinking this way- i have no doubt after 2k14 quality. They can earn not 1,5M from pc versions but 3M $ or more because many players did not buy 2k14 because of update of calendar dates in asso. Stupid unfair unwritten unknown deals with Sony and Microsoft.

[EMan]

Companies do not release the same quality product on PC because of piracy. They know that when they release a popular game to the PC, it is gonna get the hell pirated out of it (unless there is some obnoxious DRM, like what Ubisoft does).

Companies frequently lose money releasing to PC (or barely break even) and tend to make a fortune on console versions. This is why more and more of them are turning to consoles only (or favoring consoles with "superior" versions). I use the word superior lightly since 2K14 kinda sucked on all the platforms last year, despite the graphics on the console versions it was a bug-ridden, VC infested mess.

It'd be nice if every gaming platform was treated evenly, but that's just a dream that will probably never happen. PC will almost always get the short end of the stick, it sucks, but that's the way it is.

[Vlad2010]

Companies do not release the same quality product on PC because of piracy. They know that when they release a popular game to the PC, it is gonna get the hell pirated out of it (unless there is some obnoxious DRM, like what Ubisoft does).

Companies frequently lose money releasing to PC (or barely break even) and tend to make a fortune on console versions. This is why more and more of them are turning to consoles only (or favoring consoles with "superior" versions). I use the word superior lightly since 2K14 kinda sucked on all the platforms last year, despite the graphics on the console versions it was a bug-ridden, VC infested mess.

It'd be nice if every gaming platform was treated evenly, but that's just a dream that will probably never happen. PC will almost always get the short end of the stick, it sucks, but that's the way it is.

All that you say is the case, but piracy is making progress and with consoles games. If you follow to the torrent sites will see that the console versions of the AAA-games leaked out much earlier than PC analogs. Piracy is everywhere. That's it.

[benji]

Companies do not release the same quality product on PC because of piracy. They know that when they release a popular game to the PC, it is gonna get the hell pirated out of it (unless there is some obnoxious DRM, like what Ubisoft does).

Companies frequently lose money releasing to PC (or barely break even) and tend to make a fortune on console versions. This is why more and more of them are turning to consoles only (or favoring consoles with "superior" versions). I use the word superior lightly since 2K14 kinda sucked on all the platforms last year, despite the graphics on the console versions it was a bug-ridden, VC infested mess.

It'd be nice if every gaming platform was treated evenly, but that's just a dream that will probably never happen. PC will almost always get the short end of the stick, it sucks, but that's the way it is.

It's not 2007 anymore. We've solved this. Ask Valve for details regarding Russia.

Every major multiplatform game of the last four years or so has had a PC version.

And companies aren't making much money on console versions anymore either.

[Patr1ck]

Yep. With the big budgets it takes to flush out aaa titles, poor sales can break a studio. IPs that can recycle tech and resources like COD and assassin's creed can be profitable, let alone huge titles like gta. That's why many games rely on microtransactions.

[skoadam]

Companies do not release the same quality product on PC because of piracy. They know that when they release a popular game to the PC, it is gonna get the hell pirated out of it (unless there is some obnoxious DRM, like what Ubisoft does).

Companies frequently lose money releasing to PC (or barely break even) and tend to make a fortune on console versions. This is why more and more of them are turning to consoles only (or favoring consoles with "superior" versions). I use the word superior lightly since 2K14 kinda sucked on all the platforms last year, despite the graphics on the console versions it was a bug-ridden, VC infested mess.

It'd be nice if every gaming platform was treated evenly, but that's just a dream that will probably never happen. PC will almost always get the short end of the stick, it sucks, but that's the way it is.

Piracy is totally non factor from 5 years, maybe 7 years back but first of all 2k did not protect their pc products in anyway. They want to safe money on this but lost much more when they try to sold their product which is easy to crack. For me generally it looks like 2k(and others) try to safe money on productions for pc, u need more people to release games on pc, more work, more everything. I cant use word to describe this, because its not allowed here( word start with L) but im pretty sure that even niche game are worth to release on pc with same quality as consoles, there is for sure money to earn, but first studios must want to do this. On the other site, there must be much more money from big company Sony and Microsoft- this is the most important explanation for me since performance of pc's win consoles in all aspects.

[sticky-fingers]

"next gen" consoles are mid ends PC, so there's no more problem about development.
Look at Watch Dogs, Titan Fall... "Better" on PC

[Vlad2010]

"next gen" consoles are mid ends PC, so there's no more problem about development.
Look at Watch Dogs, Titan Fall... "Better" on PC

+1

[skoadam]

"next gen" consoles are mid ends PC, so there's no more problem about development.
Look at Watch Dogs, Titan Fall... "Better" on PC

this is what im talking about, maybe u misunderstand me.

[jmmontoro]

Piracy is an issue for NBA 2K, their protections are almost non existing, pirate copies on PCs can get online easily, until they solve that they'll always take hits and water down the port.
FIFA is the perfect example, they revamped their model in 13 and that version and the current one 14 weren't cracked, all pirate versions have multiple bugs, which caused many gamers to purchase their copies and open themselves to the online capabilities of the game which now are hard to give up.

[agolden]

Piracy is an issue for NBA 2K, their protections are almost non existing, pirate copies on PCs can get online easily, until they solve that they'll always take hits and water down the port.
FIFA is the perfect example, they revamped their model in 13 and that version and the current one 14 weren't cracked, all pirate versions have multiple bugs, which caused many gamers to purchase their copies and open themselves to the online capabilities of the game which now are hard to give up.

Actually, rumor has it that EA paid a lot of the warez teams to not crack the game. Their is only one good pirated copy online, and that was after a while.

[Kevin]

Oh,thats new

[jmmontoro]

That is the most ridiculous rumor I've ever heard. A good release is called a scene release, and there hasn't been a scene release of FIFA since FIFA 12. All the internal releases have massive bugs in several areas.

[ThePointForward]

You're acting like there is no piracy on consoles...
They can't blame it on piracy, because when they cut more content from the game, less people will be willing to pay for it.
If they do that it's circle of death for the game and both sides are responsible.

[ramonetis]

Someone has tried to pre-order nba 2k15 PC at a store? Or someone has asked for a twitter ronnie2k on pc version?

[Vlad2010]

Or someone has asked for a twitter ronnie2k on pc version?

Yes. Someone asked ronnie here: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/06/ ... /#comments.
The answer - 'No news about PC yet".

[Spree#8]

You're acting like there is no piracy on consoles...

Yep, most everyone is and it's incredibly ignorant. I'd recommend that everyone who thinks that do their homework and look at GTA V's torrent numbers.

They can't blame it on piracy, because when they cut more content from the game, less people will be willing to pay for it.

This too. There are few more annoying things than game developers releasing PC versions that are half-featured and/or play like shit due to being horribly optimized and/or get no post-release support at all (which quickly turns into a thing with games that release annually) and then STILL having the balls to blame piss-poor sales on piracy.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people are falling for this without any thought at all. Piracy is just an excuse to treat PC games like crap and kiss the console crowd's ass and yet some people almost sound like they approve of it.

[JaoSming]

I dont believe 2K has made any statement saying piracy is the reason for the PC version's limitations, its speculation due to other companies openly stating it.


At the same time, I log onto the PC online and see maybe 6 people online at a time (in the online menu, not playing the game, that number maxes out at just over 2,000 http://steamcharts.com/app/255480 )

I just checked the PS3 online menu, 44,320. You can say its because PC has been fucked year after year, you can say the PS3 number is inflated because of PS+, but this number has always been like this. Here is a post from 2K10, the first year of 2K PC with online enabled, and it mentioned ~500 people online viewtopic.php?f=122&t=69293#p1113491 I can't remember seeing that number go over 1,000, but I'd be happy to be wrong.

Again it sucks, again it may not be ethically right, but people are not playing on PC and of those people they are not playing online. The best we can says is "they could though!" But if you take the all time highest amount of people playing the digital PC version of 2K and compare it to Sunday morning PS3, and get 5% of that number.... if 2K can cut costs by killing PC server load by removing online features, it is understandable.

Hell, if PC even had crews or Blacktop online, would anyone even play it enough for matchmaking? I remember 2K10 online's waiting for matchmaking, it sucked.

[MkElite]

I think if a next gen version for PC came out, it will draw huge attention to it, even from non sports gamers on PC just because of the fact that its next gen and once they play it, they will end up like me...didn't want to play 2K but when I played I ended up making a YouTube channel which today has 8 million views.

I can imagine modding on next gen version, and then getting millions of YouTube views, which only promotes the game sales on PC and Consoles.

Just hope we will see some next gen stuff this year...but most likely it won't happen.

I dont believe 2K has made any statement saying piracy is the reason for the PC version's limitations, its speculation due to other companies openly stating it.


At the same time, I log onto the PC online and see maybe 6 people online at a time (in the online menu, not playing the game, that number maxes out at just over 2,000 http://steamcharts.com/app/255480 )

I just checked the PS3 online menu, 44,320. You can say its because PC has been fucked year after year, you can say the PS3 number is inflated because of PS+, but this number has always been like this. Here is a post from 2K10, the first year of 2K PC with online enabled, and it mentioned ~500 people online viewtopic.php?f=122&t=69293#p1113491 I can't remember seeing that number go over 1,000, but I'd be happy to be wrong.

Again it sucks, again it may not be ethically right, but people are not playing on PC and of those people they are not playing online. The best we can says is "they could though!" But if you take the all time highest amount of people playing the digital PC version of 2K and compare it to Sunday morning PS3, and get 5% of that number.... if 2K can cut costs by killing PC server load by removing online features, it is understandable.

Hell, if PC even had crews or Blacktop online, would anyone even play it enough for matchmaking? I remember 2K10 online's waiting for matchmaking, it sucked.

[skoadam]

JaoSming, again and again i cant play online on pc because i cant, because 2k online gaming is screwed up for pc in many countries outside States. I've got all originals game from 2k9(no online) to 2k13 and i never played one full match online. Why? because of lags, because of lowered lvl of details. Why this is happen? Because of 2k, not because of piracy for f sake, cmon stop comparing ps3 versions, net code with pc's, this is just unfair for fair people.

[JaoSming]

I never said piracy was the reason.

2K probably doesn't have servers near you. I'm not defending them but its obviously not changing if its like this for you year after year. If you don't like it, don't give them your money.

The PS3 comparison was about people playing the game, the userbase in comparison to PC, not about netcode.