✪ [Cam]'s Mods ✪ #TheReturn & Complete Association Mod info: Post 1250 + Poll

[Arius]

Edit: Actually, I won't be using the TNT mod afterall so my vote doesn't matter..

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[johnwest1985]

First of all i really love your mod !! Im using a rather medium good laptop but it doesnt effect my fps and it looks amazing !!

just amazing

just one thing.. i do think it gets on the redish side on the players skins... i dont know what u can do about that.. here som exampels :





maybe its quite hard to see but ingame it seems even more red..

i think this redness doesnt effect other things in the arena to much though and i love the floors !!

What do u think ??

[GloryD]

BETA v0.2 (Compilation 11.5 Skin w/ face lighting)~Next-Gen Arm Sleeves + Cam's Lower Body Edits I vote for this as well

[jay-r]

Tried the latest global. As I've said earlier - not a fan of the indian type skin. Bosh looks creepy Back to previous version Too bad I am missing out the TNT stuff, but I hope you switch back to better looking skin types you've used before

BTW, congrats CAM you reached the jackpot in respect of view count

[johnwest1985]

agree about the skin types again... on your last version... they look kind of indian.. otherwhise just awesome

[Brianbscotty]

I guess my I'm wondering if you are going to put out a global after seanjean puts out his AC4. I love the beta volume 1, but am finding myself in the "don't like the red tones" camp. I would love to see all of your awesome edits in a global with the fixed skin colors. As much as people are raving about next-gen, that's one thing I think they have jacked up. They made black people red. I agree with the others who say it's borderline creepy. As much as I loved your latest sweat, I would trade it being so visible for more authentic skin tones. That, along with your gear and body edits (save the legs, I really like default) and the TNT stuff would be my personal favorite.

I think this is what I'm trying to say. This is from my Cavs vs. Pelicans game. Somehow Kidow got Jrue to be black. Now I have Williams and he is reddish. When I watch the videos for next gen and see how guys are trying to capture that "next-gen look" they tend to end up with the Indian look. I think Jrue looks more realistic. Can you adjust the lighting or colors in the global to achieve a balance between realistic skintones like Holiday's and still have a decent amount of sweat?

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[Mindozavr]

thank you cam, it works perfectly!

[GloryD]

I guess my I'm wondering if you are going to put out a global after seanjean puts out his AC4. I love the beta volume 1, but am finding myself in the "don't like the red tones" camp. I would love to see all of your awesome edits in a global with the fixed skin colors. As much as people are raving about next-gen, that's one thing I think they have jacked up. They made black people red. I agree with the others who say it's borderline creepy. As much as I loved your latest sweat, I would trade it being so visible for more authentic skin tones. That, along with your gear and body edits (save the legs, I really like default) and the TNT stuff would be my personal favorite.

I think this is what I'm trying to say. This is from my Cavs vs. Pelicans game. Somehow Kidow got Jrue to be black. Now I have Williams and he is reddish. When I watch the videos for next gen and see how guys are trying to capture that "next-gen look" they tend to end up with the Indian look. I think Jrue looks more realistic. Can you adjust the lighting or colors in the global to achieve a balance between realistic skintones like Holiday's and still have a decent amount of sweat?

Speaking for myself I never get the reddish skin tones on players...that is more so on your ENB if anything.

[Brianbscotty]

This is Kyrie with the same enb I have been using with all of Cam's globals. This is from 11...


This is Dion.


Now with the Beta, the redness has come back in both. I feel that both look the most lifelike with the skintones from the 11 series. Problem is the newest gear is in the Dedication ones, which have turned the brothas red again. I haven't changed enb's in a month. The skintones changed.

[GloryD]

I have never experienced the redness that people have brought up but I stand corrected.

[Brianbscotty]

I have never experienced the redness that people have brought up but I stand corrected.

I hope you didn't feel I was correcting you. I didn't mean it to sound that way. He was asking for feedback, and I kind of put a query in as to whether he was going to go with SJ1414's new work. Looking at his (SJ's) preview, it looks like he has fixed the skintone issue. I think Cam was using his old stuff with the red undertones as a base. I think what really is my underlying hope is that the direction of all of this will turn away from the "next-gen" attempts, and go for realistic. I think Kidow's Jrue Holiday looks the most realistic of any CF to date, color wise. I'm still hoping for a Dion Waiters that is authentic. He is not brown, he is dark, dark brown. 2k just seems to have a problem with getting guys dark enough. And I actually prefer to not be able to see the tats, if it means authentic skin tones. That's why I chose to use the ENB I did. I think it was Yenz' off of Moddingway. It was a version that was darker with highlights on tats. As much as everyone is raving about the CrystalClear, I think it is way too bright. But that's a personal preference issue. I'm just hoping to get the base skin tones right. I think that Jrue would still be burple, regardless of how bright the ENB makes it. All in all, I love this global, it has really added so much to my gaming experience. I'm not complaining, just dreaming of the ultimate global!

P.S. I was just checking the Kemba Walker above, and you can see the reddish cast in his skin, too.

[Mindozavr]

BETA v0.2 (Compilation 11.5 Skin w/ face lighting)~Next-Gen Arm Sleeves + Cam's Lower Body Edits I vote for this as well

+1

[iPenny24]

BETA v0.2 (Compilation 11.5 Skin w/ face lighting) - ~Next-Gen Arm Sleeves + Lagoa's Lower Body Edits ( i vote for this) in my opinion cam skinny lower body edit was too skinny for me

[spiderman333]

Sir Cam, here are my request.. nice global.. LIVING LEGEND GLOBAL MASTER Cam..

BETA (Cam's Skin)
~Normal Arm Sleeves + Cam's Lower Body Edits

BETA v0.2 (Compilation 11.5 Skin w/ face lighting)
~Normal Arm Sleeves + Cam's Lower Body Edits

[Maverick]

Thanks again [Cam]! You're just a Saint. Bout the Poll, you already know my vote.

[stielar]

Cam,

After trying a few globals, I have come to the conclusion that the best one is your 11.5 global (default leg lenth). And I'm using the one with the default lower body. The reason why I prefer this over your latest beta, or any of your versions with different leg sizes, is that the animation seems odd. I think you did something with the shoes or the legs and the animation just feels weird to me (like it skips some frames or that the animation is not so smooth like it is with default bodies/shoes).

Has anyone else noticed that or am I the only one?

[-scarface-]

Cam, my man... I have to tell that your latest global is PERFECT to me! You did it dude, but don t stop, keep doing what you do, I am sure you can do better.

Big THANKS to you bro!

[Moz]

I too see some redness tone specifically to the face... aside that everything is fantastic

[iPenny24]

Cam,

After trying a few globals, I have come to the conclusion that the best one is your 11.5 global (default leg lenth). And I'm using the one with the default lower body. The reason why I prefer this over your latest beta, or any of your versions with different leg sizes, is that the animation seems odd. I think you did something with the shoes or the legs and the animation just feels weird to me (like it skips some frames or that the animation is not so smooth like it is with default bodies/shoes).

Has anyone else noticed that or am I the only one?

On my side yes there is some. I tried all compilation the skinny version has little bit laggy and odd animation, for some reason the only working fine for me is the lagoa's long leg lower body edit.
and i find the skinny one was too skinny so unrealistc. But this is just beta version so i know cam will realeased the final version of this great global..

[zz21]

If you don't mind maybe just link your mod to my global thread/link? I've already had the misfortune of someone reproducing my global without permission, though since you asked it wouldn't be a problem it's just that with your mod being out there I fear my global being reproduced from other venues. I hope you understand where I'm coming from!

yea man no problem!

[GloryD]

Cam would you consider using the sleeve from SJ's Global and make it the same look as Lagoa's next gen sleeve? I think that would be the perfect sleeve.

[jay-r]

Recommend trying out Frossst1109 NEW ENB + SWEETFX for 2k14 -> http://www.moddingway.com/file/38987.html

Looks awesome with cam's v11/v11.5 global:

[Maverick]

Nice find! Thanks for sharing.

[[Cam]]

First of all i really love your mod !! Im using a rather medium good laptop but it doesnt effect my fps and it looks amazing !!

just one thing.. i do think it gets on the redish side on the players skins... i dont know what u can do about that.. here som exampels :

maybe its quite hard to see but ingame it seems even more red..

i think this redness doesnt effect other things in the arena to much though and i love the floors !!

What do u think ??

agree about the skin types again... on your last version... they look kind of indian.. otherwhise just awesome

Glad you like it man, the red skin tone come from SJ's global base, he reduced it upon his official gratitude release but it's still slightly there. I was hoping to use his AC4 global as the base for my official release as the skin tones are more neutral, however with SJ announcing his retirement I don't know the status of this

Tried the latest global. As I've said earlier - not a fan of the indian type skin. Bosh looks creepy Back to previous version Too bad I am missing out the TNT stuff, but I hope you switch back to better looking skin types you've used before

BTW, congrats CAM you reached the jackpot in respect of view count

Yeah as I said above it's something I can't reduce fully as the red is in SJ's hex edits. I'm looking for a mentor to teach me how to hex edit skin tones, I'll reach out to a few people and see if I can learn how to do so. Thanks for pointing out the view count though haha that's pretty cool milestone

I guess my I'm wondering if you are going to put out a global after seanjean puts out his AC4. I love the beta volume 1, but am finding myself in the "don't like the red tones" camp. I would love to see all of your awesome edits in a global with the fixed skin colors. As much as people are raving about next-gen, that's one thing I think they have jacked up. They made black people red. I agree with the others who say it's borderline creepy. As much as I loved your latest sweat, I would trade it being so visible for more authentic skin tones. That, along with your gear and body edits (save the legs, I really like default) and the TNT stuff would be my personal favorite.

I think this is what I'm trying to say. This is from my Cavs vs. Pelicans game. Somehow Kidow got Jrue to be black. Now I have Williams and he is reddish. When I watch the videos for next gen and see how guys are trying to capture that "next-gen look" they tend to end up with the Indian look. I think Jrue looks more realistic. Can you adjust the lighting or colors in the global to achieve a balance between realistic skintones like Holiday's and still have a decent amount of sweat?

Yeah the plan is to use SJ's AC4 as a base for my official Dedication release but the status of this is unknown with him potentially retiring before releasing his AC4. I plan on reaching out to him to see if he'll allow me to use the base so we'll see. I didn't enjoy the red tones myself but I haven't really noticed them lately as I've been looking for other things to fix, and I also use an ENB that doesn't effect colors but it may just be me; however with it becoming an issue more are vocalizing I'll be sure to address it for sure. I'll try to use default 2k skin tones and maybe adjust some layers to achieve the sweat I did but it'll take a lot of trial and error. I don't really care for the next-gen look, I care about realism, that's why I go for the edits I do. I'm also adjusting my lower body edits for the next version using 2k's default as a base, just making them longer and keeping my accessory and shoe edits. As it is a BETA there is a lot that needs tweaking so thanks for pointing everything that you've observed out

thank you cam, it works perfectly!

Anytime man

Speaking for myself I never get the reddish skin tones on players...that is more so on your ENB if anything.

I have never experienced the redness that people have brought up but I stand corrected.

Yea it varies man, it could be an ENB thing, even if you replace an ENB or sweetfx if you don't remove all the correct files, the colors and such are all effected accordingly. Also cyberfaces with redder tones than the defaults can cause the redder skin as it's in the hex edits already, just enhancing the already red effect. But I can't say for certain as the red tint is there in SJ's Gratitude base.

This is Kyrie with the same enb I have been using with all of Cam's globals. This is from 11...
Now with the Beta, the redness has come back in both. I feel that both look the most lifelike with the skintones from the 11 series. Problem is the newest gear is in the Dedication ones, which have turned the brothas red again. I haven't changed enb's in a month. The skintones changed.

I'll definitely look into it, like I said I'll try to achieve 2k11/realistic sweat with default skin-tones/learn hex editing enough to adjust the tones myself

Cam,

After trying a few globals, I have come to the conclusion that the best one is your 11.5 global (default leg lenth). And I'm using the one with the default lower body. The reason why I prefer this over your latest beta, or any of your versions with different leg sizes, is that the animation seems odd. I think you did something with the shoes or the legs and the animation just feels weird to me (like it skips some frames or that the animation is not so smooth like it is with default bodies/shoes).

Has anyone else noticed that or am I the only one?

I haven't played as much as I would like to so I can't say I've noticed. I'm going to be doing body edits over again for the official release, maybe even another BETA for you all to test out, we'll see.

Cam, my man... I have to tell that your latest global is PERFECT to me! You did it dude, but don t stop, keep doing what you do, I am sure you can do better.

Big THANKS to you bro!

Thanks bro! Glad you like it, I of course am looking to improve, glad you like it man

I too see some redness tone specifically to the face... aside that everything is fantastic

Thanks man I'll fully address the red skin tones for everyone below.

On my side yes there is some. I tried all compilation the skinny version has little bit laggy and odd animation, for some reason the only working fine for me is the lagoa's long leg lower body edit.
and i find the skinny one was too skinny so unrealistc. But this is just beta version so i know cam will realeased the final version of this great global..

Yea the skinny legs I hadn't touched since I first implemented them, I plan on starting from scratch for my lower body edits to achieve the best results

yea man no problem!

Thanks bro! Good luck with your project!

Cam would you consider using the sleeve from SJ's Global and make it the same look as Lagoa's next gen sleeve? I think that would be the perfect sleeve.

Yea I can try and combine the textures in some way, Lagoa made a texture to fit the shape of the bump he made in the arm sleeve, I'll test out some textures and see how things look.

Recommend trying out Frossst1109 NEW ENB + SWEETFX for 2k14 -> http://www.moddingway.com/file/38987.html

Looks awesome with cam's v11/v11.5 global:

Great screens as always bro, definitely gotta give Frost's ENB a look, he always makes good ones.

Alright guys a couple of things:

Here's the status of the vote for body types for the official release w/ TNT textures:
BETA (Cam's Skin)
~Next-Gen Arm Sleeves + Cam's Lower Body Edits - 1
~Next-Gen Arm Sleeves + Lagoa's Lower Body Edits - 0
~Next-Gen Arm Sleeves + Default Legs - 0
~Normal Arm Sleeves + Cam's Lower Body Edits - 1
~Normal Arm Sleeves + Lagoa's Lower Body Edits - 0
~Normal Arm Sleeves + Default Legs - 0

BETA v0.2 (Compilation 11.5 Skin w/ face lighting)
~Next-Gen Arm Sleeves + Cam's Lower Body Edits - 3
~Next-Gen Arm Sleeves + Lagoa's Lower Body Edits 1
~Next-Gen Arm Sleeves + Default Legs - 0
~Normal Arm Sleeves + Cam's Lower Body Edits - 1
~Normal Arm Sleeves + Lagoa's Lower Body Edits - 0
~Normal Arm Sleeves + Default Legs - 0

Skin Tones:
I'm very aware of the red tint to the skin tones stemming from SJ's Gratitude global release however at this time I've done all I can do to minimize the effects aside from hex edits. My plan was to use SJ's AC4 global base for my Dedication official release however SJ has declared he's retiring and I am unsure if he will be releasing AC4 at this point. I'll try contacting him but nothing is guaranteed. I'll also be contacting those I know of that know how to hex edit skin tones, however if anyone that knows how to hex edit can contact me with at least a quick run through of A. where the skin tone values can be found B. where lighting and shadows can be found C. how to edit the values (I know this could be asking a lot) but if someone is willing to be patient with me I can promise the best global imaginable for you all to enjoy. In the stead until I can hex edit, I'm going to try to use 2k's default skin tones and edit various lighting and occlusion layers to see if I can achieve the same sweat effect.

Body Edits:
With the varying reception to body edits at this point and issues arising of glitches of animations in the game I'm going to create body modifications from scratch. Starting with the default legs and going from there. However I want to show you all something. For those who think my legs are too skinny and unrealistic. Here is a picture of 2k's DEFAULT legs for skinny body type (which covers A LOT of players)

DEFAULT | My Lower Body Edits

I will be creating my new lower body edits from these legs for normal and muscular body types and reverting my old "normal/muscular" body type legs to skinny body types


I have a lot in store for you all and a lot of work ahead of me, but I'll be sure to keep you all updated so stay tuned guys

[Medevenx]

Do you think you can connect the Calf Sleeves to the short socks? Amazing stuff Cam! Also just removed all the undershirts from the players in my roster for the Tight Jersey Mod. Turns out it was just 8 players remaining with an undershirt lol