Wed May 27, 2015 9:59 pm
GritterAndGrinder wrote:It is now posted to MediaFire as NBAJam.rar (requires WinRar to unpack)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/u3o680msjcuwm8u/NBA_Jam.rar
Wed May 27, 2015 10:00 pm
Wed May 27, 2015 10:01 pm
2KShiftLeader wrote:GritterAndGrinder wrote:It is now posted to MediaFire as NBAJam.rar (requires WinRar to unpack)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/u3o680msjcuwm8u/NBA_Jam.rar
Dude Your Sure About This
Wed May 27, 2015 10:02 pm
GritterAndGrinder wrote:and Yes, the "street baller," Mark Gryph, IS inspired by King Gryph's majorly swagged out 2k15 myplayer.
Wed May 27, 2015 10:10 pm
2KShiftLeader wrote:GritterAndGrinder wrote:and Yes, the "street baller," Mark Gryph, IS inspired by King Gryph's majorly swagged out 2k15 myplayer.
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Wed May 27, 2015 10:16 pm
GritterAndGrinder wrote:2KShiftLeader wrote:GritterAndGrinder wrote:and Yes, the "street baller," Mark Gryph, IS inspired by King Gryph's majorly swagged out 2k15 myplayer.
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Mine doesn't look nearly as awesome (mostly due to 2k14 only having flat beards), but you'll recognize the similarity
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Wed May 27, 2015 10:33 pm
2KShiftLeader wrote:GritterAndGrinder wrote:2KShiftLeader wrote:GritterAndGrinder wrote:and Yes, the "street baller," Mark Gryph, IS inspired by King Gryph's majorly swagged out 2k15 myplayer.
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Mine doesn't look nearly as awesome (mostly due to 2k14 only having flat beards), but you'll recognize the similarity
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Is That PC?
Wed May 27, 2015 11:59 pm
Thu May 28, 2015 2:47 am
2KShiftLeader wrote:Can You Add MyPlayer Onna Team???
Thu May 28, 2015 6:48 am
Thu May 28, 2015 10:20 am
GritterAndGrinder wrote:And quite frankly this whole nonsense has pissed me off quite a bit. If files are made free to begin with, who gives a damn about giving credit for them? I don't make these for the glory and honor of a bunch of computer gaming junkies like myself, who will never know my real name nor see my face. I make them so there's more content out there for people to enjoy even more the game we all love. Honestly don't care who's work went into UBR. I like the mod, so i play it. that's all i know. If anyone wants to take my roster and make changes to it and post it, I couldn't care less if you credit me. I just want to post it so maybe someone will get enjoyment from playing it or a later incarnation of it. ok?
Thu May 28, 2015 11:02 am
Andrew wrote:Good work on the release! Just a reminder, anything under 100 MB can be uploaded directly to our Downloads section for safekeeping; we don't delete files unless there's an issue with them, or the author requests it. We can (and have) lost great updates that were hosted externally, so we're all for preserving files as much as we can. Any questions about our upload facilities, just let me know.GritterAndGrinder wrote:And quite frankly this whole nonsense has pissed me off quite a bit. If files are made free to begin with, who gives a damn about giving credit for them? I don't make these for the glory and honor of a bunch of computer gaming junkies like myself, who will never know my real name nor see my face. I make them so there's more content out there for people to enjoy even more the game we all love. Honestly don't care who's work went into UBR. I like the mod, so i play it. that's all i know. If anyone wants to take my roster and make changes to it and post it, I couldn't care less if you credit me. I just want to post it so maybe someone will get enjoyment from playing it or a later incarnation of it. ok?
I don't want to derail the thread, but you ask a fair question and I do believe in answering that question honestly whenever it comes up is in the best interest of the community.
Since the early days of our patching community, giving credit and asking permission to re-use or modify someone else's work has just been the done thing, in order to keep things friendly, respectful, and so on. It's become a contentious issue at times, because some people have insisted on re-releasing other people's work without asking, or at the very least, mentioning who and where it came from. Although there's no legal leg to stand on - modding is something that Visual Concepts or EA Sports could shut down with a cease-and-desist, if they wanted to (but fortunately they don't seem to want to) - it instead comes down to a self-regulating code of honour and etiquette.
It's disheartening to see something you've spent a lot of time on re-released by someone else, especially when they're directly or indirectly claiming it as their own work, without any acknowledgement. There is some ego involved in that, of course - as someone who was reluctant to let other patchers use my NBA Live rosters as a base for years, I'll freely admit that - but it remains an understandable position, especially in cases where no courtesy is shown to the original author.
Note that I'm not saying you're doing that, in fact you're doing quite the opposite and taking a respectful approach with everything. I'm just trying to explain why it's been an issue for us in the past, and why it's a sensitive matter for some modders.
We have been encouraging people to adopt a more open source approach and share their work, but it's a big philosophical shift and it's not something that we can (or intend to) enforce as a rule. The situation with UBR obviously works out quite well, as most people have the assets pre-installed, saving everyone time and multiple big downloads. It's one of those things where we'll make our recommendations, recognise everyone's right to decline permission, and make sure that credit is given when it's due and whenever possible (as patchers do leave the community and are sometimes difficult to get a hold of, years later), but everything is handled on a case-by-case basis, because some people are more comfortable with their work being redistributed than others. As such, we support both stances, because people do have different feelings about the matter and very valid reasons for feeling the way that they do.
Anyway, I hope that clears a few things up. I'm certainly happy to answer any further questions and provide clarification if need be. Like I said, it's been a bit of a touchy issue through the years, with certain incidents shaping our respective feelings toward the situation.
Thu May 28, 2015 11:13 am
Thu May 28, 2015 11:26 am
Andrew wrote:Absolutely. If my posts came across as being accusatory at all, then I certainly apologise. What I wanted to address there was Maestrio's insistence that the issue and those requests in general should be ignored, on top of him obviously having some axe to grind with HAWK23 and UBR.
In any case, keep up the good work.
Thu May 28, 2015 4:06 pm
Thu May 28, 2015 9:41 pm
GritterAndGrinder wrote:2KShiftLeader wrote:Can You Add MyPlayer On A* Team???
What do you mean by that? can anyone add theirs, or can i add yours?
Thu May 28, 2015 9:45 pm
Thu May 28, 2015 9:54 pm
*UBR2KShiftLeader wrote:I Would Try It.....But...I Don't Have URB
Thu May 28, 2015 10:08 pm
Kevin wrote:*UBR2KShiftLeader wrote:I Would Try It.....But...I Don't Have URB
Thu May 28, 2015 10:10 pm
Different author.2KShiftLeader wrote:Kevin wrote:*UBR2KShiftLeader wrote:I Would Try It.....But...I Don't Have URB
But It Still Means The Same Thing.....
Thu May 28, 2015 10:13 pm
Kevin wrote:2KShiftLeader wrote:Kevin wrote:Different author.2KShiftLeader wrote:I Would Try It.....But...I Don't Have URB
But It Still Means The Same Thing.....
Fri May 29, 2015 12:59 am
Kevin wrote:The glowing ball was made by michaelvlutz
Fri May 29, 2015 1:03 am
2KShiftLeader wrote:I Would Try It.....But...I Don't Have UBR
Fri May 29, 2015 1:14 am
GritterAndGrinder wrote:2KShiftLeader wrote:I Would Try It.....But...I Don't Have UBR
You can still try the settings with any other mod and give me some feedback on them. I'm hoping atleast someone who downloads this has a buddy to play with, cause my roommate is outta town so i cant test pvp
Fri May 29, 2015 3:04 pm
2KShiftLeader wrote:GritterAndGrinder wrote:2KShiftLeader wrote:Can You Add MyPlayer On A* Team???
What do you mean by that? can anyone add theirs, or can i add yours?
Mine.