GOODBYE NLSC..GOODLUCK WITH THE UPCOMING GAME..

[Maverick]

Hex Gods working together! Hex the hell out of those cloth files boys!

[exrxixxx]

exrxixxx, there are only 2 quality settings in NBA 2K14, low and high. Low quality uses static uniforms, high quality uses the moving uniforms. When compared to 2K12, which actually had a "low" PS2 quality setting, 2k14's low settings = 2K12's medium settings.
the 2Kx or the 3DM tools have never been able to properly export the moving cloth models. We simply have not been able to edit them. What TP has found is the 3D data for these moving uniforms, in hex.
The 3 models are thin/fat/regular



So, this data in the cloth_u.iff file (all practice uniforms use U, so easier to edit IMO) is located with the following hex offsets

Thin Model - 52FC
Fat Model - 7D9FC
Regular Model - 4167C

If you want an isolated look at these parts, I exported them with 2Kx tool. data starts at 51D0 in each file. These offset will probably work in the other cloth files too

OK, I've got a point for some things I did not know earlier. This makes situation more difficult

[seanbarkley]

It would be good if giolove came to this thread to tell us what he did to his wishbone_collar.iff and cloth_tri.iff files. Even being a little bit buggy (see shoulder area) the reesults where quite good. I'll check if he changed hex values in the files, but if he modified the 3d model I don't know how to check it.



Link to he files: http://forums.nba-live.com/downloads.php?view=detail&df_id=6221
http://forums.nba-live.com/downloads.php?view=detail&df_id=6226

[tatlopuyo]

It would be good if giolove came to this thread to tell us what he did to his wishbone_collar.iff and cloth_tri.iff files. Even being a little bit buggy (see shoulder area) the reesults where quite good. I'll check if he changed hex values in the files, but if he modified the 3d model I don't know how to check it.



Link to he files: http://forums.nba-live.com/downloads.php?view=detail&df_id=6221
http://forums.nba-live.com/downloads.php?view=detail&df_id=6226

you can use hxd to analyze the difference between bliss and gio cloth_wishbone.iff

anyways, this cloth files is too complicated..what i changed to get the effect from the sample pic i posted is the values 00004041...the problem is when u put higher values to it it becomes larger but when u lower the values..theres no effect.

[seanbarkley]

you can use hxd to analyze the difference between bliss and gio cloth_wishbone.iff

anyways, this cloth files is too complicated..what i changed to get the effect from the sample pic i posted is the values 00004041...the problem is when u put higher values to it it becomes larger but when u lower the values..theres no effect.

I can't tell because I'm not at home now, but if cloth_wishbone.iff and cloth_classic files have the same structure, have you tried to check which values do classic cloth files have there instead?

[JaoSming]

my plan is to create a HoS profile for these values, making testing and editing a bit easier. Probably only U shaped regular first, then for the others. I'm not done with this yet, just havent had time to sit down and do anything yet.

[JaoSming]

so, this is definitely the 3D Model. I have no idea how we are going to accurately edit it though.

For those that know how to use Hex on Steroids (those who dont, there are threads and tutorials) I have attached the profile for the Regular U shaped jersey top. So decompress the cloth_u.iff, load it up in HoS with this profile, edit and save as you please.

So, in HoS you get a bunch of point data. I took this data and created a point file, then imported that into SketchUp to see what it looked like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxWA_imO-nU

phpBB [video]

Yep! That is a uniform top alright. So here is the issue, how do we edit this? When I import and export from SketchUp, there is no way to keep the order of the vertices. So what gets imported first, may get exported in a different position, which the game won't like.

Basically, we need to figure out a way to import a point cloud into a 3D editing program, then export it with each number in the correct position. For those curious, here are all those points.

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and here is the HoS profile (create your own folder in Documents/Hex on Steroids/Profiles and put this file in it).

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[maumau78]

One raw solution is multiply every point for a 4x4 scale matrix ....this is easy but will scale every point along x,y,z axes.....then import them back...another solution is using MAXSCRIPT in 3D Studio Max...I'll work on it today....hope I can help you on this.....
BTW great work Jao & TP

[maumau78]

One raw solution is multiply every point for a 4x4 scale matrix ....this is easy but will scale every point along x,y,z axes.....then import them back...another solution is using MAXSCRIPT in 3D Studio Max...I'll work on it today....hope I can help you on this.....
BTW great work Jao & TP

Ok Jao how can import edited data back with hex on steroids?

[JaoSming]

you can copy/paste it into the table, then hit save and choose the file. I actually got it working though!





not easily, but working.
open cloth_u with HoS profile
copy XYZ data
open a "dummy" n2km file in HoS with a different profile
paste cloth_u data into the n2km file
import & edit in Blender
export like normal
open new "dummy" n2km file in HoS
copy XYZ data
open cloth_u, paste & save.

not easy, but fuggin working. I'll create the 15 HoS profiles needed for the thin/regular/fat and 5 collar types as soon as I can (remember, I have a newborn and a toddler running around, it took me longer than I wanted to find time to do this).

After I do that, I will do up a video tutorial for you guys. High fives all around, and thank you TP for finding these values

[maumau78]

Jao what about "dummy" n2kf file....how to create it?

and also :u models.rar you shared 3d files not the HoS profile......

[seanbarkley]

Wow Yao huge advances dude!I'd love to help with these but what you guys are doing is beyond my knowledge...

Those Humphries pictures look promising, you are getting it!

[TJMcGOAT]

not easy, but fuggin working. I'll create the 15 HoS profiles needed for the thin/regular/fat and 5 collar types as soon as I can (remember, I have a newborn and a toddler running around, it took me longer than I wanted to find time to do this).

After I do that, I will do up a video tutorial for you guys. High fives all around, and thank you TP for finding these values

OMG I cannot believe that you and TP finally figured out how to edit the high-res jerseys! This is taking our current gen PC-game to another level!
Keep up the good work!

[zz21]

not easy, but fuggin working. I'll create the 15 HoS profiles needed for the thin/regular/fat and 5 collar types as soon as I can (remember, I have a newborn and a toddler running around, it took me longer than I wanted to find time to do this).

After I do that, I will do up a video tutorial for you guys. High fives all around, and thank you TP for finding these values

[-scarface-]

Bros, awesome... just awesome, we are getting closer to next gen

[JaoSming]

:bowdown:

Jao what about "dummy" n2kf file....how to create it?

and also :u models.rar you shared 3d files not the HoS profile......

So the dummy file is a file that I used when modding stadiums for Blacktop mode, where I traced the lines of a court with the stadium seats. Since there are 663 points in this model, this injects those 663 points inside that floor model. So the faces and such still do not show up properly, but it is editable. It is very similar to how we did 3D CF editing back in the Live PC days before Ebodit came out.


Also, I tried taking the tight static uniforms and converting, but they have more vertices than this model, so it can't be converted directly.


Sorry about the HoS profile confusion, here it is.

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[seanbarkley]

Don't you have any teaser for us yet Yao??

And a short question: were u able to edit succesfully armholes to make them smaller?

[JaoSming]

Don't you have any teaser for us yet Yao??

And a short question: were u able to edit succesfully armholes to make them smaller?

we can edit any/all things. I want to be clear though, I am not making the tight uniforms. I'll make it possible, but I'm not spending the time to do it, sorry.

[seanbarkley]

Don't you have any teaser for us yet Yao??

And a short question: were u able to edit succesfully armholes to make them smaller?

we can edit any/all things. I want to be clear though, I am not making the tight uniforms. I'll make it possible, but I'm not spending the time to do it, sorry.

No prob man what u have gotten is huge!!

[JaoSming]

and new thread is created here!
viewtopic.php?f=153&t=94556

I'll be sure to double check discussions there and here. It would be best if someone would create 1 tight model, then I might be able to hop in and help with the neck types and applying it to the other bodytypes.

[maumau78]

and new thread is created here!
viewtopic.php?f=153&t=94556

I'll be sure to double check discussions there and here. It would be best if someone would create 1 tight model, then I might be able to hop in and help with the neck types and applying it to the other bodytypes.

Really want to help you and create a tight 3d model.....but with your HOF profiles I'm getting this when I try to open cloth_u.iff

System.FormatException: Incorrect String Format
in System.Number.ParseDouble(String value, NumberStyles options, NumberFormatInfo numfmt)
in System.Convert.ToDouble(String value)
in HexOnSteroids.ProfilesWindow.LoadProfile(String p, Boolean fromMain) in e:\Development\Visual Studio 2010\Projects\HexOnSteroids\HexOnSteroids\ProfilesWindow.xaml.cs:riga 292
in HexOnSteroids.MainWindow.mnuFileOpen_Click(Object sender, RoutedEventArgs e) in e:\Development\Visual Studio 2010\Projects\HexOnSteroids\HexOnSteroids\MainWindow.xaml.cs:riga 150
in System.Windows.RoutedEventHandlerInfo.InvokeHandler(Object target, RoutedEventArgs routedEventArgs)
in System.Windows.EventRoute.InvokeHandlersImpl(Object source, RoutedEventArgs args, Boolean reRaised)
in System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEventImpl(DependencyObject sender, RoutedEventArgs args)
in System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEvent(RoutedEventArgs e)
in System.Windows.Controls.MenuItem.InvokeClickAfterRender(Object arg)
in System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
in MS.Internal.Threading.ExceptionFilterHelper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate method, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)

None

I'm using HOS 0.5.7 I think....

[JaoSming]

make sure you have the latest version, and make sure you decompress the file first.

[maumau78]

make sure you have the latest version, and make sure you decompress the file first.

Hex on Steroids

Im' using the one above.....I've decompressed the file as before...same error
Cna you share your HoS folder with me?

Thanks

[tatlopuyo]

thanks jao.

[JaoSming]

make sure you have the latest version, and make sure you decompress the file first.

Hex on Steroids

Im' using the one above.....I've decompressed the file as before...same error
Cna you share your HoS folder with me?

Thanks

are you sure you are using the 2k14 cloth files and not the 2k13 ones from Bliss' tight uniform mod?