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Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby Fifedawg on Mon May 19, 2014 12:58 am

Works directly with REDitor! Please download the FAQ from here for any questions you may have. http://www.sendspace.com/file/mrcjvz

Special thanks to Slimm44 for allowing me to use his Formula's to create this spreadsheet. You can view how his formula's where created from here viewtopic.php?f=153&t=93347

Download here:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0vy33x


NBA Players that played from 1951-1999 don't have shooting ratings & tendencies due to the fact that there where no records kept of shooting range statistics before the 2000-01 NBA season. In the FAQ, you will see by recommendations for how to edit those players on the above spreadsheet. In the link below I've done a few of the great NBA/ABA players that you can use in your rosters by simply copying there ratings and plugging them into REDitor. I've made the players and listed the season statistics I used to rate the players. The season I choose for each player is based on what I thought where these players most efficient seasons. This list now contains 160 of some of the best NBA & ABA players.

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https://www.sendspace.com/file/q9uyr6
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby retromanas on Mon May 19, 2014 2:58 am

Fifedawg, Welcome back man! Please finish your amazing work with 90's seasons, 80's seasons and etc. player ratings as you did from 00-01 season till present season. This could be really helpful and easier to add player ratings for those seasons players too.
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby Angelo on Mon May 19, 2014 4:22 pm

Thanks for this man :D
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby Fifedawg on Tue May 20, 2014 10:41 am

broken wrote:Fifedawg, Welcome back man! Please finish your amazing work with 90's seasons, 80's seasons and etc. player ratings as you did from 00-01 season till present season. This could be really helpful and easier to add player ratings for those seasons players too.


Hey thanks Broken. Only problem with doing a spreadsheet for the era's before the 2000-01 season his just coming up with the Shot Ratings & Tendencies for those players that work with the game engine. I'm working on another spreadsheet at the moment by doing players from those era's but the problem is that I can only do one player at a time. What players are you looking for exactly?
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby retromanas on Tue May 20, 2014 5:36 pm

Fifedawg wrote:
broken wrote:Fifedawg, Welcome back man! Please finish your amazing work with 90's seasons, 80's seasons and etc. player ratings as you did from 00-01 season till present season. This could be really helpful and easier to add player ratings for those seasons players too.


Hey thanks Broken. Only problem with doing a spreadsheet for the era's before the 2000-01 season his just coming up with the Shot Ratings & Tendencies for those players that work with the game engine. I'm working on another spreadsheet at the moment by doing players from those era's but the problem is that I can only do one player at a time. What players are you looking for exactly?


You know, i haven't a specific player i want, of course i want that you finish that spreadsheet you started with 90's era's players. With that hard work player at a time, when can you expect release that spreadsheet?
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby Fifedawg on Wed May 21, 2014 11:32 am

Gvie me about 2-3 weeks
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby retromanas on Wed May 21, 2014 5:19 pm

Fifedawg wrote:Gvie me about 2-3 weeks


Great, i'll wait for that. Just to make sure, my favorite era of seasons from 1989-90 season till 1999-00 season, can you make that kind of spreadsheet with all of those era's players?
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby Fifedawg on Sat May 24, 2014 8:29 am

I think what I'm gonna do is start doing players for the 1999 Season thru 1951 and do all the best NBA and ABA players first.
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby Alpha_ on Sat May 24, 2014 10:28 am

Great job!
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby retromanas on Sat May 24, 2014 3:11 pm

Fifedawg wrote:I think what I'm gonna do is start doing players for the 1999 Season thru 1951 and do all the best NBA and ABA players first.


Awesome, that's even better! (Y) quick question, so this will be another spreadsheet or every season will be in one spreadsheet? i guess this will be a lot work for you and i don't wanna rush you, but i'm interestd when can we expect of release of this spreadsheet? can we copy and paste player ratings of your spreadsheet with free version of Reditor too?
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby Fifedawg on Tue May 27, 2014 10:52 am

broken wrote:
Awesome, that's even better! (Y) quick question, so this will be another spreadsheet or every season will be in one spreadsheet? i guess this will be a lot work for you and i don't wanna rush you, but i'm interestd when can we expect of release of this spreadsheet? can we copy and paste player ratings of your spreadsheet with free version of Reditor too?


Yeah it will be another spreadsheet just like the other one with shot ratings & tendencies included and yes you copy and paste into REDitor. I've uploaded the first draft of it and you can download in the first post.
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby retromanas on Tue May 27, 2014 4:11 pm

Fifedawg wrote:
broken wrote:
Awesome, that's even better! (Y) quick question, so this will be another spreadsheet or every season will be in one spreadsheet? i guess this will be a lot work for you and i don't wanna rush you, but i'm interestd when can we expect of release of this spreadsheet? can we copy and paste player ratings of your spreadsheet with free version of Reditor too?


Yeah it will be another spreadsheet just like the other one with shot ratings & tendencies included and yes you copy and paste into REDitor. I've uploaded the first draft of it and you can download in the first post.


Great! thank you for info and i will be always waiting for your weekley updates on this spreadsheet (Y)
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby dmx_133 on Thu May 29, 2014 6:39 am

hello, great job
In the list i don't find andre roberson from OKC :-(
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby dmx_133 on Thu May 29, 2014 6:39 am

Sorry is in on the list ;-)
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby dmx_133 on Thu May 29, 2014 7:18 am

What slider can use to play 12 min quarter ?
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby Fifedawg on Thu May 29, 2014 10:53 am

You find the list of sliders here viewtopic.php?f=153&t=93347
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby dmx_133 on Thu May 29, 2014 8:43 pm

Have you do coaching profile to ?
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby dmx_133 on Sat May 31, 2014 2:12 am

The rating are very special ... When i apply this rating scale, P.Mills had 77 Overall Rating Tony Parker had 76 !!!
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby Fifedawg on Sat May 31, 2014 9:28 am

dmx_133 wrote:The rating are very special ... When i apply this rating scale, P.Mills had 77 Overall Rating Tony Parker had 76 !!!


Two things make Mills rate slightly ahead of Parker and that's his defense and 3 pt shooting. Those ratings, among some others, weigh heavy on a players overall rating in 2k for point guards. We both know that Parker is a better player than Mills based on his career numbers but when we break it down for this season you will see why they are very closely rated.

Look at Patty Mills numbers per 36 minutes vs Parker's for the 2013-14 season

Mills
Fga 15.7
Fg% 46.4
3pt% 42.5
Reb 4.0
Asts 3.5
Stls 1.6
Ppg 19.5
Offensive Win Shares 3.4
Defensive Win Shares 2.1

Parker
Fga 16.5
Fg % 49.9
3pt% 37.3
Reb 2.8
Asts 7.0
Stls 0.6
Ppg 20.4
Offensive Win Shares 3.9
Defensive Win Shares 1.9

As you can see Parker is a better playmaker and better % shooter than Mills, but Mills makes up for it with 3 pt accuracy, rebounding and defense. So as the numbers reflect, Mills would be very close to Tony Parker's productivity for this season if they both where given the same minutes per game.

What would probably work better, for a players overall rating standpoint, would be to take 3 year averages of every vital statistic and create a player from those numbers and you would most definitely see the difference in Parker and Mills but my goal here to accurately recreate the players statistics for each season using the 2k engine.

As far as both players are rated number wise, point guards are notoriously rated low compared to say Centers but don't be worried at all at these ratings because they have little to no effect on game play.
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby dmx_133 on Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:04 am

Ok i understand ;-)
For the old roster like 1998 have you a formula for the rating and tendencies ?
And for the coach profile ?

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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby Retroswald13 on Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:45 am

Thank you sir! Nice to see you back :applaud:
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby Fifedawg on Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:48 pm

dmx_133 wrote:Ok i understand ;-)
For the old roster like 1998 have you a formula for the rating and tendencies ?
And for the coach profile ?

thanks


I do but it takes some hand work for seasons from 1999 season and older so what I have been doing is just creating some great older players and posting them to the first post in the thread which by the way needs updating. I'll be doing this sometime later this week. As for Coaching profiles here is the link on a formula on how to make Coach Profiles for any season

http://www.sendspace.com/file/12ccxz
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby mo2thewillyo on Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:00 pm

This ratings spreadsheet doesnt go all the way from A to Z. It stops in the S...Smiths.

Hope you include an updated file.... want ratings for Lance Stephenson, Deion Waiters, Klay Thompson from the 2013-2014 season. Thanks
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby Fifedawg on Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:26 am

mo2thewillyo wrote:This ratings spreadsheet doesnt go all the way from A to Z. It stops in the S...Smiths.

Hope you include an updated file.... want ratings for Lance Stephenson, Deion Waiters, Klay Thompson from the 2013-2014 season. Thanks


You sure bro? I just downloaded it myself and the list was complete from A-Z. Try downloading the file again.
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Re: Player Rating & Tendency Spreadsheet (1951-2014)

Postby Fifedawg on Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:46 am

Updated first post. Now there are 160 players listed from 1951-1999 that have complete ratings & tendencies. To input into your roster follow the instructions in the FAQ which you can also download.
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