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unhappy rookies in association

Postby debiler on Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:23 pm

Ok, I don't know if this has been reported yet or if it is an issue of the UBR patch: Whenever I play an association, my 1st round picks are completely unhappy, i.e. their motivation bar is at 0. Why's that? At the start of the season without one single game played? For example, in my 1992 Bucks association, I drafted David Wesley, who is about 70 overall. I play him as a starter for about 25 minutes per game, and still his motivation only keeps growing sloooooooowly.
On the other hand, Oliver Miller (69 ovr), whom I drafted in the second round, is completely satisfied with his role as a bench warmer and around 8 minutes.

Anybody experience this too?
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Re: unhappy rookies in association

Postby JAWSFreelao on Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:54 pm

It varies from player to player bro. It's all in the coding.
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Re: unhappy rookies in association

Postby debiler on Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:00 pm

JAWSFreelao wrote:It varies from player to player bro. It's all in the coding.

Care to elaborate? Of course it's in the coding, bro. But when the coding doesn't make sense, I would like to know if there is a reason behind it.
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Re: unhappy rookies in association

Postby debiler on Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:33 am

So nobody has an opinion on that? Curious.
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Re: unhappy rookies in association

Postby JAWSFreelao on Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:22 am

In Aleczou's trainer/REDMC, there's a way to change the loyalty/financial security/play for winner. The only way to change their morale is to change their role or give them extra minutes per game. Also, no need to throw that back at me, rather rude.
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Re: unhappy rookies in association

Postby debiler on Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:26 pm

Your first comment did sound a bit condescending. If that wasn't your intention, I'm sorry. :chug:

Still, the way the game handles the motivation of those rookies doesn't make too much sense. Even if the "play for winner" or "financial security" property is set to "extremely important", there's no way the player's motivation should be at zero. It will only start to improve veeery slowly during the season. Role changes have no effect once the motivation is that far down.
Also, when I check the players at the time of the draft, their status is already "upset" or "fed up".

The thing here is, I can't get RED MC to work on my new PC. It can't be installed properly, because some of the game files are rejected by my system because of some kind of virus signature (which obviously isn't legit). I tried deactivating my anti-virus software and toned down my security settings, still nothing. I would definitely love to check those things myself.

I have formed this crazy idea that maybe the rookies in Hawk's Retro draft classes are somehow registered by the game as regular players. Maybe that is why the rookies cannot be scouted properly and are so fed up at the time of the draft. Because the game thinks they are regular players who haven't played a single minute the whole season. Could somebody maybe check if there's an attribute in the .fdc files (1996, for example) that could cause this kind of behaviour? I'm only trying to help and improve the awesome mod that is UBR, so any input here is highly appreciated.
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Re: unhappy rookies in association

Postby JAWSFreelao on Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:40 am

I would help you, no question, but the Draft Class tab isn't free. Sorry.. And you're right. There is a way to make created players be registered as "currently active." I believe HAWK changed all the draft class-ees to "currently active." So playing no minutes in a season probably would make them upset. And that's strange, I have no idea how to help you with your REDMC debacle. Sorry man.
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Re: unhappy rookies in association

Postby debiler on Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:07 am

Thanks for your reply. I already posted this issue in the UBR thread, but nobody seemed to care. Maybe I'll just send HAWK a PM on the matter.
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Re: unhappy rookies in association

Postby JAWSFreelao on Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:11 am

Nawh I'd just try to post it again in the forum, I'm sure HAWK gets plenty of PMs as-is. And it's no trouble dude. (Y)
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Re: unhappy rookies in association

Postby debiler on Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:06 pm

Good news! HAWK tried out my suggestion and I tested it yesterday. It worked! We'll be having proper retro draft classes some day. :D
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Re: unhappy rookies in association

Postby JAWSFreelao on Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:14 am

Glad to hear it man.
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