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IGN Review 9.5

Postby JaoSming on Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:03 am

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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby Houndy on Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:42 am

Well, IGN got it spot on.
I personally think that NBA 2k11 could contend for GOTY as a Dark Horse.
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby StompTheCourt on Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:56 am

man this looks incredible i still see a lot of the same moves from last year i guess they cant change all of them but overall i think ill be
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby benji on Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:59 am

:lol: 9.5

More proof that "professional" game reviewers are worthless.
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby JaoSming on Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:02 am

"This isn't just the best basketball game ever, it's the best sports game of this generation"

"but Kobe looks like an alien, 9.5"


oh suck it IGN. I loved the comment that it seems My Player is tacked on because it takes too long to be a star in the NBA. Grow a pair and grind it out like a good boy or hack the game save and get banned till 2k12.
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby Andrew on Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:19 am

I get the feeling if it was too easy to become a star in My Player, it would be criticised for being too short or shallow. You can't please everybody.
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby JaoSming on Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:22 am

if you do good in the draft combine you can get drafted in the top 10, so right there you are getting a bigger head start than 2K10. It might take someone a few tries to know how to play the game properly to get up that high...but yea.
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby Andrew on Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:28 am

Yeah, seems like that's the whole point. Maybe they just felt they needed to nitpick something.
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby benji on Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:43 am

They had to find some flaws to cover up the fact they got a moneyhat to wildly overrate the game. Putting Mr. "Oscar Worthy Story" on it is too obvious though.
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby brett35 on Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:43 pm

wow after 12 years of straight nba live, looks like im going to have to make the switch come this tuesday.
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby airBerlin on Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:24 pm

I agree, the my player mode is going to need work. I made post about it already, didn't get much of a response, but I've listened and read some posts by people that have already played the game. It sounds like your 40-50 overall PG player is going to continue to start over and steal minutes from Chris Paul if he ends up on the Hornets. That's my biggest issue with the game. I know people agree and I'm sure there's people that don't want to ride the bench and play garbage minutes.

EASY FIX:

When you start a my player mode, give a few choices for a difficulty setting. Easy, Normal, Hardcore... Whatever. If you choose easy, you start off with a player that has a overall rating of around 80, depending what position and style you pick. Hardcore, you start off around 40 like you do now. Since they're claiming they've adjusted the AI and Logic so much this time around, it shouldn't be an issue to have the my player mode know what to do with rookies of different ratings.

As far as I can tell, there's pretty much two groups of people. People that want to improve their player and work him up from the bottom (even if that includes limited minutes and/or being sent down to the D-League) and those that want to play the my player mode but don't want to grind it out (which I completely understand). Having a poorly rated player with limited skills starting somehow starting over all-stars isn't satisfying either of these groups of people.

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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby Hedonist on Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:25 pm

In this review it's the complaint again that you can't do anything with your 'scrub' My Player, but if you saw the last video by Chris Smoove he was getting open looks all the time, made me wonder about the lack of defense actually. Although it was just draft combine scrimmage but still, he made it look easy and he plays on Hall of fame.

9.5 seems a bit high to me, I'd say 8.5 maybe 9 not having played though. some improvements are solid and features, but they didn't make it perfect that much is clear already, between trades and rotations and frankly some graphics as well I've already noticed a lot without even having played. That being said some stuff is great, and they did a good job of actually listening to their gamer community. The many you tubes probably helped a lot.
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby airBerlin on Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:30 pm

I agree, the game probably doesn't deserve the 9.5 rating. If the changes they made to the association mode are as nice as they make them sound, then I could understand a 9.5 for that area.

The overall game is probably around an 8.5 or 9 like Hedonist suggested.
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby benji on Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:19 pm

If the game deserves an 8 it'll be a godsend for basketball games.
airBerlin wrote:It sounds like your 40-50 overall PG player is going to continue to start over and steal minutes from Chris Paul if he ends up on the Hornets.

Blech. How hard can it be to at least add a checkbox to this?

The fact that this isn't fixed is making me rethink buying it on day one. And the dev teams missing of an obvious and serious flaw in the best mode is making it clear there is no way this is a 9.5.

Not that IGN and especially Hillary were serious in the first place since their entire livelihood depends on giving publishers the scores they want. So throw out a ton of 9-10s this year with Jordan and no EA game, money well spent!
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby needcollec on Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:26 am

And people said my previous question wasn't interesting well if people really believe that 2k11 is really a 9.5 that means theirs not much left to do right? meaning that it will be a perfect 10 most likely in 2k12 so what will basketball games keep doing after you've created the most realistic game that's what I wanna know. I personally don't think it is a 9.5 because that would mean theirs almost nothing wrong with it and I've heard a lot about 2k having online problems (not that I've experienced it myself because this will be my 1st year with a 2k game) but the online play, glitches, and idk maybe how some of the players look in the game should all be factors considering if the game is a 9.5 with that being said if those problems exist in 2k11 how can it be a 9.5? I'm not bashing 2k11 in anyway because it is the goat in basketball games but I'm saying 9.5 is a little bit stretched....but I know I'm gonna loooooooove 2k11 and probably not buy 2k12 unless it has vast improvements as does from 2k10 to 2k11 which I cant see but if 2k does that then sheesh idk what to say man lol....Also I have a question for anyone that plays my player seeing how my player started in 2k10 is it possible to import your player in 2k11 and continue with your success?
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby Houndy on Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:10 am

The problems are minimal, not really gameplay changing.
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby airBerlin on Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:46 am

Oh and another thing I've read that I thought was kind of stupid... (kind of a spoiler?)

Those interviews that they've been advertising that you get in the my player mode. I guess they happen after EVERY game. Besides it obviously getting repetitive and annoying after grinding through the mode, it doesn't make sense. Why would people be so interested in interviewing someone that has literally HALF the "skill" (in reference to overall ratings) of say... Trevor Ariza? Obviously if you make the game winning shot (which should be unlikely since it wouldn't make sense for your player to be put in that position if he was still only rated 40) then sure, give the man an interview.

In fact, now that I think about it, maybe the interviews should be based on your role with the team. If you're a 40 overall rookie you should get a minimal amount of interviews and when you do, they should probably ask you things like: "How are you looking to improve your game?", "Do you feel like you deserve more minutes?", etc. You could still earn more interviews if you do something of importance like I mentioned above. If your player is an 80 overall sixthman, you should get more media coverage. The interviews could be like "How do you feel about not being a starter" or whatever.

YEAH, that's my two cents for 2K.

Difficulty setting for My Player mode and Interview Logic based around your role in the team.

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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby Hedonist on Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:04 am

MP mode has difficulty setting this year.

Not surprised at the interview being every game. I'd imagine it would become very repetitive anyway. But to be fair, almost every player is interviewed after every game, almost every practice, in the NBA. Just low key in the gym or lockerroom usually though.. :lol:

Not by Doris while flanked by the Head coach. But, we'll see. Do you also know how many questions per interview?
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby airBerlin on Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:07 am

What does the MP difficulty effect? Skill points earned?

No, I have no idea how many questions are asked.
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby Hedonist on Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:15 am

I don't know if it affects skillpoints, I wouldn't think so, maybe you'd even get more on higher level.

I'm assuming that it affects the level of play, and opponents more than anything. so it'll be harder to dominate basicly.

You should read this if you haven't already:
http://community.2ksports.com/community ... 17606&l=11

You said you'd play My Player mode if it was revamped or something well it has been if you read this. Music to my ears. Some things may not be great, like the interviews, and some thing may not be perfect yet like rotations or trades but you can bet the growing pains are gone of names and clones and weird stats and annoying subbing. At least I do. So I'm looking forward to it. Especially with all the in-game tweaking, like switching on defense, hockey assists, all those things, that's great imo.
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby inbar on Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:49 am

I think it's really funny that when NBA 2K11 gets a well deserved, amazing score...all the Live or "Elite" fans come out of the woodworks to bash on it. It looks really great and IGN usually gets it pretty spot on
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby DVocShoeBox on Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:13 am

benji wrote:If the game deserves an 8 it'll be a godsend for basketball games.
airBerlin wrote:It sounds like your 40-50 overall PG player is going to continue to start over and steal minutes from Chris Paul if he ends up on the Hornets.

Blech. How hard can it be to at least add a checkbox to this?

The fact that this isn't fixed is making me rethink buying it on day one. And the dev teams missing of an obvious and serious flaw in the best mode is making it clear there is no way this is a 9.5.

Not that IGN and especially Hillary were serious in the first place since their entire livelihood depends on giving publishers the scores they want. So throw out a ton of 9-10s this year with Jordan and no EA game, money well spent!


Calm down people, its based off performance, not ratings!! If I ,right now, was to back up for CP3, and he was struggling for about a month with 12pts & 5ast. Then, I come along and average 15pts with 7ast while having limited minutes. The coaches are going to say "Lets see how he plays with more minutes" and allow Paul to come off the bench. Also, in 2k11, you will not be drafted by a team that doesn't need you. So, I probably will not get drafted by a team with a superstar point guard. Instead of New Orleans, teams such as 76ers, Pacers, or even the Lakers, who doesnt have a 75 rated point guard, would pick me up. Also, this is a videogame, so loyalty is not an attribute and doesn't play a factor. I'm sure a few of you may try to continue nitpicking something about the mode, but I'm sorry for us liking to work for everything we have! :lol: :cool: Smh.....
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby Lamrock on Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:28 am

Despite common sense and what Benji says, this review does make me very optimistic and feel good about getting it. I loved the demo, and the review confirms my impressions of the defense and gameplay being vastly improved.

Like Ben said though, if this game is an 8, it will likely be the best basketball game ever. 2K10 was like a 4, but it was so chock full of essential association features that I still played the hell out of it. 2K11 may break Gran Turismo 4's record for games I've sinked the most hours into.
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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby airBerlin on Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:58 am

You should read this if you haven't already:
http://community.2ksports.com/community ... 17606&l=11


Yeah, I've read that before, and you're right - Those improvements are nice. But the main reason I lost interest in my player mode was the starting/playing time thing I mentioned in previous posts. I thought for sure they would have touched this up somehow. Oh well...

inbar wrote:I think it's really funny that when NBA 2K11 gets a well deserved, amazing score...all the Live or "Elite" fans come out of the woodworks to bash on it. It looks really great and IGN usually gets it pretty spot on


DVocShoeBox wrote:Calm down people, its based off performance, not ratings!! and he was struggling for about a month, say 12pts with 5ast, then I come along and average 15pts with 7ast with limited minutes. The coaches are going to say lets so how he plays with more minutes, and allow Paul to come off the bench. Also, mind you, in 2k11, you will not be drafted by a team that doesn't need you, so I probably wont get drafted by a team with a superstar point guard. Instead of New Orleans, teams like 76ers, Pacers, or even the Lakers who doesnt have a 75 rated point guard. Mind you this is a video, so loyalty is not a attribute and doesn't play a factor.
So, I'm sure a few of you may try to continue to nitpick something bout the mode but owell, I'm sorry for us liking to work for everything we have! :lol: :cool: Smh....


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Re: IGN Review 9.5

Postby DVocShoeBox on Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:42 am

airBerlin wrote:
DVocShoeBox wrote:Calm down people, its based off performance, not ratings!! If I ,right now, was to back up for CP3, and he was struggling for about a month with 12pts & 5ast. Then, I come along and average 15pts with 7ast while having limited minutes. The coaches are going to say "Lets see how he plays with more minutes" and allow Paul to come off the bench. Also, in 2k11, you will not be drafted by a team that doesn't need you. So, I probably will not get drafted by a team with a superstar point guard. Instead of New Orleans, teams such as 76ers, Pacers, or even the Lakers, who doesnt have a 75 rated point guard, would pick me up. Also, this is a videogame, so loyalty is not an attribute and doesn't play a factor. I'm sure a few of you may try to continue nitpicking something about the mode, but I'm sorry for us liking to work for everything we have! :lol: :cool: Smh.....


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