Talk about NBA Live 14 here. Archived discussion on NBA Live 13 and NBA Elite 11 can also be found in this section.
Fri May 28, 2010 1:11 pm
New brand name,sounds proper new configurations loved i'm game
Fri May 28, 2010 2:39 pm
This is probably what Live needs to move more realistic, they need to fix the player models dry them up and make them more realistic!!!
Fri May 28, 2010 3:45 pm
Is it the angle or is LeBron's head like 2 feet above the rim in one of those pictures? The new shooting thing sounds interesting, I like the concept.
Fri May 28, 2010 7:27 pm
It does look like his head is a bit high above the rim. Not totally unrealistic for LeBron as he really gets up there but a bit perhaps not quite that high and certainly not everyone has hops like that. Hopefully just the angle or simply a by-product of being a work-in-progress screenshot.
Sat May 29, 2010 2:27 am
This is great that Live is working on realism, but what I'm looking for this year in Live, is for the User to have as much power in games as the CPU. By that, I mean the CPU shouldn't be able to steal easier than the User etc.
Sat May 29, 2010 6:08 am
He looks huge in that image so I thinks it's the angle and frame of view. But it also looks like he isn't even moving closer to the rim. I'm taking it with a grain of salt. For all we know the images could be doctored.
Sat May 29, 2010 11:27 am
axelgomez13 wrote:This is great that Live is working on realism, but what I'm looking for this year in Live, is for the User to have as much power in games as the CPU. By that, I mean the CPU shouldn't be able to steal easier than the User etc.
Indeed. Realism is certainly important, as are innovative and effective controls along with smooth animations, but that's a quirk in the AI that needs to be ironed out.
Sat May 29, 2010 7:45 pm
is there a pc release for NBA ELITE 11?
Sat May 29, 2010 8:43 pm
No, it would appear not.
Sun May 30, 2010 2:48 pm
Hmm, I don't mind that they are going away from canned animations, I just worry that controls are going to get even more complicated & if you can't pull them off then you can't beat CPU.
Don't like the name change but I am sentimental about all those great Live games ('95, '98, '00, '04 & '05) of the past.
Sun May 30, 2010 3:33 pm
The X wrote:Hmm, I don't mind that they are going away from canned animations, I just worry that controls are going to get even more complicated & if you can't pull them off then you can't beat CPU.
I'm a little leery of the controls as well but I'll reserve judgement until we know more about them and I've had a chance to try them out. Hopefully they're not as sensitive as they were for free throw shooting when it was on the right stick.
The X wrote:Don't like the name change but I am sentimental about all those great Live games ('95, '98, '00, '04 & '05) of the past.
Same here, but perhaps it's time. Hopefully it'll be a fresh start.
Mon May 31, 2010 12:52 am
Andrew wrote:No, it would appear not.
Forever. EA: No Elite, no Live anymore forever for PC.
Mon May 31, 2010 9:46 am
Until we hear otherwise, that's what we're assuming.
Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:00 am
I don't like the name change at all the name "live" is classic but as we all know if the game delivers none of us will care about the name we will love the game. The problem i'm seeing is they are going to make it to difficult with the controls. For example basketball as you always here is a simple game it is a game of skill and strategy. So the game was already going in the right direction with the dribbling with the right analog stick I think of course they should apply more moves with that analog stick maybe add by holding either the R2,R1,L1, or L2 button to do more moves, but to shoot with the same stick that you are dribbling with just sounds to complicated, I have been playing live since 95 are u telling me I got to learn how to shoot and dunk all over again come on man. Not feeling this at all.....
We could do stuff with the shoot while still keeping them on the face buttons like adding 'quick shot" "accurate shot" "short shot" so say the circle button is the shoot button well if u tap it, it will pump fake, if u tap it with a little hold meaning letting go before the peak jump then thats a quick shot and of course less accurate but needed when trying to get it off before the buzzer or shot clock. then the "accurate shot" is where u hold the shoot button and time the release right at the peak of the jump causing for a more accurate shot, then finally the "short shot" where u hold the shoot button pass the point of the peak jump so u might actually be back on the way down and release right before u touch the ground many times like kobe when he is trying not to get his shot block and holds it a little longer before he releases of course this might make the shot short. But I think this is a way to have realistic basketball while causing us to really focus on our shooting but still keeps the dribbling and shooting buttons separate
Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:01 am
I look at it as, If your gonna call the game "ELITE" the game better be ELITE!!!
Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:52 pm
I guess i have to agree with that...I'm thinking that the name "Elite" is meaning more of the brand and how they are trying to be the elite basketball game instead of making it more aracadish at least I'm hoping. Nevertheless I don't like the change just cause I'm use to live. But think if the game is great the name won't matter. Take your pick Live changes its name from NBA Live to NBA Elite or 2K keeps its name and it looks like they will have Jordan on the cover and in the game.....I'll give that one to 2k
Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:38 pm
I'm sure the "Elite" moniker will grow on me in time. I'd definitely agree that the changes to the gameplay are the more pressing issue but as I said before I'll approach it with an open mind and reserve judgement until there's more info out there and I've had an opportunity to try it out for myself.
Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:32 pm
I don't care about the name, really! I have one major problem with the change, though. It tells me, that EA is still focusing on fixing the wrong things... They are possessed with constantly changing controls, animations, concepts, game modes and stuff. And for the last three years they have had a Dynasty Mode where players don't develop and where no one gets injured.
In Live 10 they really fixed the in-game problems, and now the game is nice and fluent. You have great control over the players and you can make great and quite realistic moves and plays. Not perfect, still errors, but generally a great experience once the ball is tipped off. But in between games it is horrible. In my Dynasty in the 09-10 season, Lebron had 6 PPG, Shaq plays PF, Nate Robinson was just traded to Atlanta for Joe Johnson and all the rookies have insane hair-styles. The NBA experience is just gone!!!
I am affraid this is a signal that EA will once again focus on yet more advanced controls, movement concepts, DNA, game modes etc. instead of creating a solid and realistic way to play your own NBA seasons.
Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:42 am
I agree, I think the controls are perfect and simple for Live 10. The main things I'm looking for in Elite 11 is improved dynasty mode (which I don't see that happening this year, I'd love to be proved wrong though), and balance between user and CPU. Also I wouldn't mind having a Be A Pro/My Player mode, because I'm all for individualism.
Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:03 am
I agree with the last two post and have been saying the same things I don't understand why they are changing the shoot control to be on the same one as the dribbling control and I hope they don't do like 2k and put the dribbling moves on the left stick to. The shooting should definetly stay the face buttons and if you what to do stuff with the shooting do it with the face buttons. Make it time sensative, or tap it twice and the player double pumps or hold R2 and shoot and it shoots off back board stuff like that. Point being there are things you can do with the shooting without having to make the game harder by us having to shoot with a stick that obviously while looking at the game could make it difficult.
Not only that, yes again it seems like they are focusing on the wrong stuff already and missing the point. See those who like this game actually love the name live and even though the shooting can use some improvements we are fine with the buttons being for shooting yet the first thing they come out with is info of a name change and change of shooting to the analog. I mean the first info should have been the man problems like a more complex dynasty mode, or bringing back 3point and dunk contest, I mean if your going to release info to get us excited let it get us excited something like "2k might have Jordan on the cover and in the game.
Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:26 am
Bullshit. Live 10's controls are sluggish. There is a delay when you try to move your player from a stand still like his feet are stuck in mud and they also take a couple steps when you try to stop. There aren't any quick first steps when you don't have the ball. Sometimes you press a button and it won't happen because before that animation could trigger, you had to finish the current animation and you may end up getting sucked into a 2 or 3-man scenario where your button press would either get discarded so you would have to press that button again, or it would be delayed for a second or so, which would result in either a bad shot because it would throw the timing off, or a pass that gets intercepted or the man is no longer open. Trigger a layup animation and notice you have a very small window to pass out of it, and you will probably end up in a 2-man collision animation before you are able to trigger it unless you pass it right after you start your layup.
The options for controls are good, like being able to direct layups and hop into a jumper or leaner, but the response is too slow and the animations are really long, slow and drawn out. It's like you press a button and just watch what happens for a little bit.
Why are you afraid of advanced controls? Don't you want to be able to control as many actions that your player can perform?
Remember that Live 07 had some special shooting using the right stick while holding a modifier. It wasn't a problem for us then. We loved having more options, even though that game was utter garbage, overall.
I like what ThaLiveKing said. The name can actually make or break this new direction of EA Sports basketball.
Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:51 am
Pdub wrote:Bullshit. Live 10's controls are sluggish. There is a delay when you try to move your player from a stand still like his feet are stuck in mud and they also take a couple steps when you try to stop. There aren't any quick first steps when you don't have the ball. Sometimes you press a button and it won't happen because before that animation could trigger, you had to finish the current animation and you may end up getting sucked into a 2 or 3-man scenario where your button press would either get discarded so you would have to press that button again, or it would be delayed for a second or so, which would result in either a bad shot because it would throw the timing off, or a pass that gets intercepted or the man is no longer open. Trigger a layup animation and notice you have a very small window to pass out of it, and you will probably end up in a 2-man collision animation before you are able to trigger it unless you pass it right after you start your layup.
IDK what game you're playin, but I'm perfectly ok with Live 10's controls. Really, I'm not afraid of change, as long as the new controls are more effective.
Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:01 pm
fluidmind wrote:I don't care about the name, really! I have one major problem with the change, though. It tells me, that EA is still focusing on fixing the wrong things... They are possessed with constantly changing controls, animations, concepts, game modes and stuff. And for the last three years they have had a Dynasty Mode where players don't develop and where no one gets injured.
I think it's worthwhile to enhance the gameplay and I'm hoping the changes pan out. However, I really hope those improvements won't come at the expense of Dynasty Mode again as I completely agree that it's in desperate need of an overhaul.
Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:36 pm
Some of info is getting me more excited about Elite, but then again, this happens every year. I NEED dynasty mode to be vastly improved.
Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:41 pm
In the GameSpot interview, they did mention that online and offline game modes were getting attention this year, which is essential for NBA Elite 11 to be a well-rounded product. Details are yet to be given of course but I found that encouraging as I was getting a bit concerned that the focus on new controls and the like would relegate Dynasty Mode to an afterthought. If it can catch up to the depth of Association Mode - or at least make great strides along with the gameplay - then I have to believe Elite's going to deliver a very solid product. Needless to say, I'm keen to find out more.
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