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NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:45 pm

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Features the top rated players at each position and a shortlist of the lowest rated players (of any position) in both games.

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:41 pm

Patrick Ewing Jr. is rated 82 and considered a lowest rated player?

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:19 pm

Probably a typo.

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:58 am

I thought Live wasnt going to use player ratings this year? I thought the Senergy (?) was taking the place of that and they were going to work more of tendencies and percentages...........hmmmmm?

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:09 am

The ratings at this point are based on their DNA data and for what DNA doesn't cover yet which is defense.

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:45 am

You still have to use a number, whether it be a value like a rating or a percentage, it's needed for the AI to make decisions. So basically they get their ratings from the DNA. Defensive ratings don't seem to matter that much since Live has always been an offensively focused game.

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:22 am

Pdub,

When you get LIVE, you'll recognize instantly who is a defensive guys vs who isn't. Game isn't "offensively focused" this year my man :)

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:58 am

Hope so, Marcus.

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:09 am

Wow, 2K is always tough on Scalabrine (he's rated a forty-four).

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:10 am

XxHyperDunk24 wrote:Wow, 2K is always tough on Scalabrine (he's rated a forty-four).


I think his overall might have been in the 30s in the default rosters of NBA Live 2005. A lot of overalls were calculated lower in 2005 (as I've been reminded having picked up the roster updates for that game again).

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:26 pm

What about arenas and mcgrady??? :(

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:28 pm

My guess is that they're in the top twenty, just not the top ten.

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:35 pm

Andrew wrote:My guess is that they're in the top twenty, just not the top ten.


you gotta be kidding me :shock:
i understand why??but how about garnett?? he was injured too,and they rank him as the best PF in the game??that's BS!!

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:38 pm

KG was far more productive than McGrady and Arenas last season. His skillset is also one that will result in a higher overall rating as he's a stronger rebounder and defender.

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:48 pm

Andrew wrote:KG was far more productive than McGrady and Arenas last season. His skillset is also one that will result in a higher overall rating as he's a stronger rebounder and defender.


alright,how about dwade the season before??he led his team to the worst record in the nba,and he wasn't even in the same level with kobe lebron or KG.however they they moved his overall 1 point (92).

let's go back to the years before (live 06,07,08),KG wasn't even in the picture,his team was down in the ranking if not the worst. but some how,he was the best player in the game(99,98,97)

i like garnett,but it is what it is.their ratings sucks!!

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:11 pm

Again, a player's ratings come down to individual production and skillsets. A team's record has nothing to do with it. Also, overall ratings aren't nearly as important as people believe them to be. It's not a matter of them adjusting the overall ratings year to year, it's a matter of adjusting the individual ratings and the overalls being calculated accordingly. And indeed, the way the overall rating is calculated is a factor here too.

Here's a good example: Josh Smith's overall has often been high in recent years because of his outstanding dunking and jumping ratings. Unless allowances are made in the calculation of overall ratings, things like that can go a long way in padding a player's overall rating. You get someone like KG who has a high dunking rating, good athletic ratings for a big man and very good offensive and defensive ratings and the resulting overall is going to be quite high. Someone like T-Mac who's had a bit of a down year individually and been injured a lot (and thus has lower endurance ratings) will end up with a lower overall. Same with Arenas, whose defensive abilities don't match his offensive skills and though he can dunk, has a lower rating than someone like KG.

But in the end, it's kind of trivial. It has a certain impact in terms of the way Dynasty Mode calculates trade value but in terms of getting them to play like themselves, the individual ratings (and Player DNA) are far more important.

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:21 pm

Andrew wrote:Again, a player's ratings come down to individual production and skillsets. A team's record has nothing to do with it. Also, overall ratings aren't nearly as important as people believe them to be. It's not a matter of them adjusting the overall ratings year to year, it's a matter of adjusting the individual ratings and the overalls being calculated accordingly. And indeed, the way the overall rating is calculated is a factor here too.

Here's a good example: Josh Smith's overall has often been high in recent years because of his outstanding dunking and jumping ratings. Unless allowances are made in the calculation of overall ratings, things like that can go a long way in padding a player's overall rating. You get someone like KG who has a high dunking rating, good athletic ratings for a big man and very good offensive and defensive ratings and the resulting overall is going to be quite high. Someone like T-Mac who's had a bit of a down year individually and been injured a lot (and thus has lower endurance ratings) will end up with a lower overall. Same with Arenas, whose defensive abilities don't match his offensive skills and though he can dunk, has a lower rating than someone like KG.

But in the end, it's kind of trivial. It has a certain impact in terms of the way Dynasty Mode calculates trade value but in terms of getting them to play like themselves, the individual ratings (and Player DNA) are far more important.


oh,now i see

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:22 am

It's a scaled rating system. So, if one guy is a better rebounder than another, his rebound rating has to be higher, etc.

Re: NBA Live 10/NBA 2K10 Rating Comparison @ ESPN.com

Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:01 pm

The overall looks good, but i hope a couple of little adjusts
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