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Sim Stats = Low Field Goal Attempts Per Game

Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:42 pm

Can anyone advise me on how to get more shot attempts when simming?

I'm seeing about 15 attempts per team, per game short of what is realistic. As a result, Players leading the league in scoring average 21 pts. It's all because less shots are being taken. I tried maxing out the shot tendencies but no effect.

any advice?
thanks
D

Re: Sim Stats = Low Field Goal Attempts Per Game

Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:52 pm

how many mins?

Re: Sim Stats = Low Field Goal Attempts Per Game

Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:38 am

Kevin wrote:how many mins?


I thought it didn't matter when you are simming? actually it's set for 10 minutes when playing but I left the default 12 minutes on when simming, so I don't think that's it. I can't increase it to 15 minutes because 12 minutes is the max

Re: Sim Stats = Low Field Goal Attempts Per Game

Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:18 pm

I use FGA per 36 minutes X 4 and it works really well but it helps to have the shot location tendencies accurate according to the sim engine, also.

Re: Sim Stats = Low Field Goal Attempts Per Game

Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:38 am

slimm44 wrote:I use FGA per 36 minutes X 4 and it works really well but it helps to have the shot location tendencies accurate according to the sim engine, also.


can you please give an example?
thanks
D

Re: Sim Stats = Low Field Goal Attempts Per Game

Fri Dec 25, 2015 4:07 am

Sure.

Say a player takes
20 shots per 36 minutes
4.8 shots per 36 minutes at the rim
2.1 shots per 36 minutes from 3-9 feet
7.4 shots per 36 minutes from 10-23 feet
5.7 shots per 36 minutes from 3pt land

That player would receive tendencies of:

Take Shot 80 (20 x 4)
48 Inside (4.8 x 10)
21 Close (2.1 x 10)
74 Mid (7.4 x 10)
57 3pt (5.7 x 10)

If all players are set to this formula, both individual players FGA and team FGA will be accurate.

Re: Sim Stats = Low Field Goal Attempts Per Game

Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:22 pm

That's not the problem Slimm

looking through everyone else's rosters I am seeing the same problem. I have yet to find one roster that has teams taking 7500 shots per season which is the average. Everyone is getting way under 7000.

Everyone has compensated by making the FG% average higher than the NBA. NBA historically .460 but look at everyone's rosters... it's about .500 or better!

So is there any way to get the CPU to take more shots per game? I'm guessing its a glitch that wont be fixed and this is the only solution?
thanks
D

Re: Sim Stats = Low Field Goal Attempts Per Game

Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:47 am

drj32, not sure whats the problem bro
sry i didnt respond earlier, i checked bball-reference and i forgot to pm, i think your problem is one. You are looking formula for 70s or early 80s, right?
Because when i reviewed few last seasons, i see really few teams(1-5) with 7200 FGA max, mostly 6000-6800. league avg is almost always 6600-6700. I dont see problem there.
It can be problematic for 70s/80s if you forgot to reduce 3s. Im not 70s specialist, so i never checked this, i think slimm also, but there is huge chance that there is some hardcoded things in game that wont allow to have ~7500FGA( i think it should be even 8000 :crazyeyes: for 70s)
One more time i dont see nothing weird in my rosters, but its late 80s, 90s, 00s and current, 70s can be problematic for you.

Re: Sim Stats = Low Field Goal Attempts Per Game

Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:23 am

skoadam wrote:drj32, not sure whats the problem bro
sry i didnt respond earlier, i checked bball-reference and i forgot to pm, i think your problem is one. You are looking formula for 70s or early 80s, right?
Because when i reviewed few last seasons, i see really few teams(1-5) with 7200 FGA max, mostly 6000-6800. league avg is almost always 6600-6700. I dont see problem there.
It can be problematic for 70s/80s if you forgot to reduce 3s. Im not 70s specialist, so i never checked this, i think slimm also, but there is huge chance that there is some hardcoded things in game that wont allow to have ~7500FGA( i think it should be even 8000 :crazyeyes: for 70s)
One more time i dont see nothing weird in my rosters, but its late 80s, 90s, 00s and current, 70s can be problematic for you.


thanks bro I appreciate the response.
numbers wise you are seeing the same thing I am seeing which makes sense but did you add 2 pt attempts + 3 pt attempts?

looking at 1996 for instance (http://www.basketball-reference.com/lea ... _1996.html)
for averages, I see 6575 field-goal attempts and 1316 three point attempts.
Are you finding the same in your rosters? ( total of about 7900 on average?)

Also is your average FG% below .500?
I think the issue is hardcoded as you suggested....
thanks

Re: Sim Stats = Low Field Goal Attempts Per Game

Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:53 am

drj32, well bro, this is why URB WHERE SIM HAPPENS

screens from 1996 roster
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i still believe that some day, some users will understand, that some mod is simply better than the other one :wink:, well maybe im just stupid and naive because after years many of them still dont understand.

Re: Sim Stats = Low Field Goal Attempts Per Game

Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:16 am

skoadam wrote:drj32, well bro, this is why URB WHERE SIM HAPPENS

screens from 1996 roster
[ Image ]
&
[ Image ]

i still believe that some day, some users will understand, that some mod is simply better than the other one :wink:, well maybe im just stupid and naive because after years many of them still dont understand.



yes you are correct, your numbers are very accurate. I'm going to revise my three-point attempts upwards by 50% and see how that affects things. Other than that, I think we are limited by the hard coding.
Thanks
D

Re: Sim Stats = Low Field Goal Attempts Per Game

Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:56 am

drj32 wrote:
skoadam wrote:drj32, well bro, this is why URB WHERE SIM HAPPENS

screens from 1996 roster
[ Image ]
&
[ Image ]

i still believe that some day, some users will understand, that some mod is simply better than the other one :wink:, well maybe im just stupid and naive because after years many of them still dont understand.



yes you are correct, your numbers are very accurate. I'm going to revise my three-point attempts upwards by 50% and see how that affects things. Other than that, I think we are limited by the hard coding.
Thanks
D


Please give me a season you are trying to replicate statistics for in the sim engine and I'll see if there is anything I can do to help. I can't promise anything as I've never tried to edit pre-1985 rosters, but I'll try and let you know what I find.

Re: Sim Stats = Low Field Goal Attempts Per Game

Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:31 am

Thanks Slimm, any year from the 1970's would do, but truthfully 1985 was very similar to 1979. If you can do it with 1985 that would work as well..
thanks
D
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