Xbox One Revealed

Multiple accounts can use a single Xbox Live subscription on the One

If you joined us for the Xbox One reveal yesterday, you'll probably know that amidst all the excitement, we learned that a single Xbox Live Gold membership will cover both the 360 and the next-gen console. Good stuff -- no extra expenditure, subscription sign-ups or other irritations. But, it gets even better, as a couple of Microsoft bigwigs told Polygon that Live memberships can also used by multiple profiles. That means several accounts can be created on one console, for discrete friends lists, personal Home screens and the like, but they'll all be able to feed off the same subscription. We're not sure how this'll work exactly, but it already sounds better than the Gamertag-specific membership model on the 360, which is responsible for far too many amazing kill stats being lost to the dreaded "Guest" account.

That's something, at least.

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I don't really like what I'm hearing. I stopped buying used games as I liked my collections in pristine condition but used game market has been a major driving force in affordable gaming. They want to milk out every single penny out of your pocket now. How about the environment? After you finish a game that takes only 8 hours to finish, you are stuck with an useless physical game CD for life? Collectors wouldn't mind but that still is going to be a lot of waste.

And why can't the gaming console just stick to the gaming. Complete entertainment system? Sure, it sounds like a bonus but not really, when you're actually forced to pay for it. A lot of people won't use all the features to the fullest anyways. And the Kinect now is mandatory? LoL. Never liked it, and now I have to pay extra for the device I probably will never get to love.

Lastly, fully installing games before playing? With harkdisk space limit, you probably will be able to have so many games installed at once anyways. What if you wanna go back and play the game which you played long time ago, but only to learn that you have to install the game for hours to play it again.

More reasons to go for PS, or PC for me, unless something changes with their direction.

What about hard disk speed? Once it gets low, those last games are on the slowest part of the disk. It better be a fast hard drive.

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And why can't the gaming console just stick to the gaming. Complete entertainment system? Sure, it sounds like a bonus but not really, when you're actually forced to pay for it. A lot of people won't use all the features to the fullest anyways. And the Kinect now is mandatory? LoL. Never liked it, and now I have to pay extra for the device I probably will never get to love.

I understand why they do it and it's a sound idea, but I tend to agree. While it's handy to have extra functionality, I've pretty much only ever used my Xbox 360 for gaming. I've watched the occasional DVD, usually when I've had an issue with another DVD player and felt like watching something while I'm sorting out a replacement.

so the more details that emerge the more i dont like this system. sony must be loving all of this

What happened to games installing progressively? Like, all common assets and the first map/level is installed, and while you play it it installs the rest in the order you should encounter them to make the installation a seamless process? That would seriously help lessen initial wait time, and I thought it was a thing. Am I remembering it wrong?

they have this in Gran Turismo 5. there are so many cars in the game, they decided to save time by installing necessary ones at first, then if you load or encounter or buy oine the game hasn't "seen" yet, it will take an extra 10 seconds to install each car. that got really annoying

I understand their need to call the second one "360" to match the 3 in the competing PS3

iirc at that time 360 was the buzzword for companies then when naming their products or services, as the 360 value represents their product or service of being the complete and full (circle) package. Yahoo 360 comes to mind. So the XBox 360 represents the full (circle) home entertainment experience.

oh yeah that makes sense too

The Xbox 360 name was chosen to imply that the gamer is at the center of the Xbox experience.

"I like to refer to the first Xbox process as a painting. It was an additive process, and we didn't necessarily end up with the painting we had originally envisioned. I like to look at the Xbox 360 as a sculpture. Sculpting is a reduction process. With it, we had to know where we wanted to go before we started. Over the last three years we've been marinating in the ideas of this new system."

In formulating its plan to create a new console, Microsoft has consulted the console industry playbook, as it were, learning from it, and writing a few plays to the pages itself. "This generation, we're using our playbook; we're going to write it with an across-the-board integrated product," says Allard gleefully.

Allard and his internal Microsoft team wrote a 250-page book about the identity and goals behind the system. What is the thesis that binds the ideas of the new system? "Xenon is setting out to create living entertainment experiences powered by human energy." Emphasizing "living entertainment," Allard clarified that he did not say "interactive gaming experience." Similarly, one of the reasons the Xbox 360 isn't named Xbox 2 is because it sounded old. Xenon -- the system's development name -- is an ecosystem of gaming, Allard emphasized.

In generating a name for the system, the team threw out Xbox 2. "We've shifting the power of the gaming systems from technology to hardware to the gamer being the center of the industry, and Xbox 2 just sounds like it fits into that old scheme. We threw it out."

After numerous attempts, the team favorite became Xbox 360 because, among other reasons, it puts gamers at the center of the circle. So they decided to try it out, give it a sort of Rorschach test. Microsoft went to the public -- gamers and non-gamers, the second gamer in the household, the NASCAR dad and the soccer mom, as Allard says -- and asked them what they thought of when they heard the name "360."

One survey taker said, "Um, the first time I kissed my girlfriend on a Ferris wheel." Another responder said, "I love music. The word 360 makes me think of vinyl. Another said, "The first time I landed a kickflip on my skateboard." Another said, "When I exchanged rings with my husband in our vows, and I understood the significance of the ring, you know, a lifetime commitment." The answers, the team learned, were wildly different because of the unconventional name. But they all connected with a theme -- they were all emotional, personal experiences that evoked joy. "So, the reason we went in was different than the reason we came out."

The Design
Allard created a concept chart displaying the visual topography of the Xbox versus the Xbox 360, using the polar vertical axes of architecture and organic and the horizontal axes of wild and mild. The original Xbox was somewhere in between architectural and mild. The new system is located somewhere in between wild and organic.

Xbox One is a difficult name to shorten, in my opinion. Referring to it as "the One" feels awkward, compared to "the 360" or "the PS3" or "the PS4".

What's in a name, I guess, but it doesn't really help matters.

Xbox One is a difficult name to shorten, in my opinion. Referring to it as "the One" feels awkward, compared to "the 360" or "the PS3" or "the PS4".

What's in a name, I guess, but it doesn't really help matters.

i plan to call it............. xbox

But as we were saying before, you could well be referring to the original Xbox.

Perhaps X1 will be appropriate shorthand for it.

like XBone. x-Bone, or crossbone.

But as we were saying before, you could well be referring to the original Xbox.

Perhaps X1 will be appropriate shorthand for it.

yeah i have heard x1 a bit, its probably what i will be going with myself. i do not really like the XBone lol

i plan to call it............. xbox

Sounds like I'll be going back to the PS after abandoning the PS3 in favor of the 360. I don't need an entertainment system, I've got that, thanks for playing.

Microsoft’s Kinect patent suggest they will be always be watching

A patent filed by Microsoft for Kinect describes a camera system that monitors the number of viewers in a room. Content providers will be able to set a threshold which if exceeded would trigger a prompt for the device owner to purchase a license for more viewers.

According to Extreme Tech, via Evil Avatar, it’s that straight forward. The abstract states, “The users consuming the content on a display device are monitored so that if the number of user-views licensed is exceeded, remedial action may be taken.”

The patent is said to allow a device to limit the number of performances in a certain time period, limit the number of viewers to performances and to continually monitor viewers, also covering, “when performance of the content to an identified user exceeds a threshold.”

It also describes that the patent could be applied to head-mounted devices, large screens, gaming and media products, computers, and even mobile phones. Therefor suggesting that content providers, or copyright owner, can govern the performances in private settings.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/24/microso ... -watching/

FUCK THAT.

Penny Arcade weighs in on that:

A gamer walks into a retailer and hands over the game they wish to sell. This will only be possible at retailers who have agreed to Microsoft’s T&Cs and more importantly integrated Microsoft’s cloud-based Azure pre-owned system into its own.

The game is then registered as having been trade-in on Microsoft’s system. The consumer who handed it over will subsequently see the game wiped from their account – hence the until now ambiguous claim from Phil Harrison that the Xbox One would have to ‘check in’ to Microsoft’s servers every 24 hours.

The retailer can then sell the pre-owned game at whatever price they like, although as part of the system the publisher of the title in question will automatically receive a percentage cut of the sale. As will Microsoft. The retailer will pocket the rest.

Too much big brother watching shit for my liking, get stuffed MS.

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Isn't this the perfect opportunity for Sony and the PS4 to take a piece of the Xbox consumers by just making a solid gaming device with gaming features that gamers actually want and, not putting used game restrictions, not bundling with a sensor (like Xbox One and Kinect) which would keep the price down? I've had both the PS3 and 360, prefer the Xbox experience (probably because most everyone I know is on the xbox, also like the gamerscore system), but I don't like a lot of the things Xbox One is implementing.

Here's XOne Box Art:

its kinda funny that the xbox reveal did more for sony than the ps4 reveal did

Lol, it's shocking, the Qballer's quotes. System's camera/kinect is a Microsoft's watchdog which basically wants to fuck you over, real bad. Forget watching movies with your family, Forget watching downloaded movies, Forget prons. Just a simple Fuck you. I like that.

They also wanna control the used game market, thus more profit and more control over price.

this crap about monitoring how many people can be in the room to watch a rented movie is pretty bad. i bet that is one thing that will change(or already has) before launch

Yeah, I don't think anybody knows what that patent is even for. If it is really for limiting licensed viewing then Microsoft is going to receive some backlash.

One can only hope that these things are being blown out of proportion, and that once the console is released, the experience isn't as bad as people presumed.