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Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:42 pm

Thanks for the feedback on Chris Paul, noted.

Vanny wrote:Brand and O'Neal could score mid range shots don't know why they got only 13 shoot range.

I'm not sure why the rolling eyes emoticon is necessary, it's difficult to keep track of every rating for over 400 active players and I'm always open to feedback.

Anyway, thanks for the heads up. (Y)

Vanny wrote:Btw didn't you think that Gordon and B.Davis deserves SS scorer ? I think for 21 points per game and leaders of their teams it will be right to make them SS.

I'm pretty sure both have those FSS abilities already but I'll double check that.

by **Piejie** on Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:02 am

Andrew wrote:
Piejie wrote:Andrew, is it possible for you to update the stats for player doubles?

I have been meaning to do that. I have been doing it for the All-Star teams as well as the Rookie and Sophomore teams but I'll try to get around to the other teams for the next update.

Thx, would be great

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:31 pm

I've finished updating the ratings for those teams so the next update will indeed feature corrected ratings for those additional All-Star squads.

by **dayan** on Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:28 pm

Andrew wrote:I've finished updating the ratings for those teams so the next update will indeed feature corrected ratings for those additional All-Star squads.

Oh, that's great because it was kinda funny to see different ratings for same player in NBA team and for example European team.
By the way, I have a few suggestions:
In my opinion Mike Dunleavy's quickness is unjust low. Yes, he is not very quick for his(SG) position, but it doesn't mean that you should make his quickness 58 :shocked:

. It makes him less quicker than majority of bigmans. It not so. His quickness should be 63 at least for sure.
Mickael Pietrus ranks #11 in the league in 2point FG%(55.6%). Taking into account that he finishes with dunk or close shot only 35% of his fg attempts I guess that his FG rating is underrated :wink:

. I think fg 75 for him would be right. (Y)

Andre Miller's jump is 30 in game. But actually he jumps higher! For comparison Steve Nash's jump is 55. I'm sure that Miller at least jumps not lower than Nash or maybe even higher but in game they have 25 point different. By the way Miller takes 4.3 rebound per game. I guess that if you are 6-2 and jump low it is impossible to reach same numbers :wink:

. Fix it please.
See you! :wave:

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:58 pm

Thanks for the heads up. (Y)

by **Owen** on Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:29 am

please edit the fatigue(subs) rating...so the game will get more life like minutes
im not a big fan to see starters gettin all of those minutes and bench get only 2 min per player

in all star week end mode, please fix the sub thing too...

by **Vanny** on Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:03 am

Hello Andrew! How are you ?

I have to scorers for your thinking (Y)

- Hedo Turkoglu is first offense power of Orlando from the perimetr .... but his FG 70 and 3 pt 75 couldn't make him so good from the jump shoots and 3 pt like in life. He have many 20+ points more games in NBA take a look on him please.
-Michael Redd offensive aware. All big scorers Kobe Wade etc. have offensive awarenes more than 90 ..... Redd is pure offense machine with career high season 28 points per game, and scoring and shooting 3 pt. better than oldie Ray Allen but FG and 3pt less than Gordon..... don't why EA decreased his shots ratings to 84 from 88 ... don't know why he is only 83 and Of. Aw. less than 90. He is killer in offense. Take a look on this too please :wink:

-Brandon Roy. One step left to this bo to became roockie of the year .... with 17 points per game and good jump shots he have FG rating less than 70 ... this is bad i think

Greetz and good luck Andrew! 8-)

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:27 pm

Logan wrote:please edit the fatigue(subs) rating...so the game will get more life like minutes
im not a big fan to see starters gettin all of those minutes and bench get only 2 min per player

in all star week end mode, please fix the sub thing too..

As I've said a couple of times, I am already planning on doing that.

Vanny wrote:Hello Andrew! How are you ?
I have to scorers for your thinking
- Hedo Turkoglu is first offense power of Orlando from the perimetr .... but his FG 70 and 3 pt 75 couldn't make him so good from the jump shoots and 3 pt like in life. He have many 20+ points more games in NBA take a look on him please.
-Michael Redd offensive aware. All big scorers Kobe Wade etc. have offensive awarenes more than 90 ..... Redd is pure offense machine with career high season 28 points per game, and scoring and shooting 3 pt. better than oldie Ray Allen but FG and 3pt less than Gordon..... don't why EA decreased his shots ratings to 84 from 88 ... don't know why he is only 83 and Of. Aw. less than 90. He is killer in offense. Take a look on this too please
-Brandon Roy. One step left to this bo to became roockie of the year .... with 17 points per game and good jump shots he have FG rating less than 70 ... this is bad i think
Greetz and good luck Andrew!

Thanks, noted.

by **(((Sirgii)))** on Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:05 pm

One more time Hi Andrew 8-)

I have some notes for you:
So about C.Anthony... he is doing 4.2 APG but his ballability is only 55? I think there might be some of 70, and his stealing ability is 52 but he is making 1.2 steal per game I think he needs something like 60 in stealing ,and one more thing about Anthony he is shooting FT about .811% but in the game only 79, so and one more thing about S.Parker ( http://www.nba.com/playerfile/smush_par ... stats.html ) his rating in the game are FG 66 3pt 62 . but in Lal he is scoring about
11.8 ppg his FG%=.445(272-611)... 3pt%=.383(92-240)... so pliz fix if it needs his rating.
See you :wink:

by **shox15** on Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:18 am

Hi Andrew! Have only small sugetions about few players:)
1. Andre Iguodala making 5.7 assist per game.(Kobe Bryant the same) This is more than Tony Parker, S. Marbury, J.Jhoson, Mike Bibby, R.Alston, L.Ridnour etc. But they all have playmakers freestyles and pass more than 80 ...... Iggi have 35 .... Iggi made 3 tripple doubles this season and in many games this season he have recorded more than 10 assists, so i think this is reasons to make his pass and dribbling better...... I think he deserves to be star playmaker cause in life much atacks of the Phila he playing playmaker role. Also i think so that his block rating is too much ... 70 for 0.4 BPG is too much.
2. Charlie Bell took 13.1 points per game with lot of jump shots and fg 43.7 %, 3 pt. 34.2 and makes 1.3 steals per game. I think that his FG, 3PT and steal ratings shoud be increased.
3. David West and Marvin Williams have style of shots like small mans in life, but in game their style like Rasheed etc. big mens. I think that this shoud be changed. Also i think rebound steal and jump ratings of David West shoud be increased, he take 8.5 boards and 1 steal per game.
4. Eddy Curry have career high season in New Yourk with 20 points per game and high percent 58.4. May be he deserves to be star scorer inside?

Thanx for your job !

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:02 pm

Thanks all, noted. (Y)

by **ru_roll** on Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:13 pm

Hi.
A. Biedrins plays 29M like Dalembert, but Dalembert has Fatigue=70 - Biedrins has just Fatigue=55(http://www.hoopshype.com/players/andris_biedrins.htm)... Biedrins' rebounding ratings may be also increased - he has perMinutes rebounding stats like Howard, Okafor or Duncan.

PS.
+speed(=speed, quickness, hri in game) is his strength on NBA courts.

by **dayan** on Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:52 pm

shox15 wrote:3. David West and Marvin Williams have style of shots like small mans in life, but in game their style like Rasheed etc. big mens. I think that this shoud be changed.

Agreed. Same Kirk Snyder. Andrew, fix it please.
And I'm also agreed with ru_roll about Biedrins. Andris is among top10 centers in NBA imo. I think his underrated.

by **TRWhiplash** on Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:11 pm

For my first post ever on these boards I wanted to give a bit of feedback on your rosters. It's probably a bit too late to have this stuff taken into consideration as I see the next release date is anticipated to be tomorrow, but I figure I might as well try and get it in while it's still fresh in my head. First I do want to say thank you, though, for these rosters. I barely touch a new Live game until you release your first set of rosters for it each year.

Now, since I'm a Warriors fan who lives near Boston, most of this feedback is going to be slated towards the Warriors and the Celtics.

Warriors

1. I think Azubuike's shooting ratings (and maybe offense) should be bumped a bit. He currently holds the number 7 spot for 3pt fg % in the NBA. He's averaging about 9 points per 20 minutes, which comes out to about 20 points per 48 (though I'm not sure how seriously you take per 48 stats). The entire reason that the Warriors pulled him from the D-League is because he is a pure offense, run and gun shooter who can actually knock down his shots. He was the lead scorer in the D-League before they grabbed him (though that probably doesn't mean much). Similarly he's averaging about 1.7 steals per 48, so his steals could possibly be bumped a bit too.

2. Matt Barnes is a slightly better rebounder than he's currently rated as being. He pulls down about 5 boards per 25 minutes, and has had a bunch of 10+ rebound nights when he gets to play more than 30 minutes.

3. Andris Biedrins could definitely use a bump in a few areas, like others have said. He has the 3rd highest FG % in the NBA, but he's rated at 51 in the game. Likewise like most European big men he has exceptionally good hands and is good at handling the ball and passing it out. What he lacks in muscle, he makes up for in speed as evidenced by the fact that he is having a career year in Don Nelson's fast paced, running intensive system. Considering he's averaging about 10 rebounds (3 of those offensive) and 2 blocks in about 30 minutes of play, you might look at increasing those a bit too (though they're pretty good where they are). If you look at his position in rebounding numbers (16 in rpg, 11 in orpg, 21 in drpg) 80-90% of the guys above him that get more boards (and only about 1-2 more) also get at least 4-5 more minutes of play time. It's the same situation with his blocks. Lastly, as others have said, he should definitely have a higher stamina rating. He's putting in 30 minutes per game as is, and he'd probably be averaging close to 40 minutes per game (he's young enough) if not for foul trouble.

4. Monta Ellis is probably one of the fastest players in the league right now, but he's not even rated in the 80s for speed or quickness. He's also a much stronger jumper/dunker than he's rated for. If you need proof of that, just take a look at this years past Rookie/Sophomore game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLKHC4uTKaY

5. Stephen Jackson is probably the second best defensive player on the Warriors behind Baron Davis, but he's only rated in the high 50s. He was the spark that ignited the defense in most of the games that Baron didn't play in recently. This could stand to be looked at.

Celtics

1. Al Jefferson has been an absolute monster over the last month or two. After a slow start early in the season, he's now averaging 11 rebounds, 15 points, 1.5 blocks, and shooting a little over 50% in 33 minutes. He gets double teamed more than Paul Pierce, now. He could definitely use a few boosts to reflect this.

2. Rajon Rondo is probably THE fastest player in the league right now. He's also one of the scrappiest and most active, diving after every loose ball and going for every steal and rebound that he can. He could definitely use a boost to reflect this. In about 20 minutes of play, he's managing to average 3 rebounds (pretty good for a PG) and almost 1.5 steals. I think his rebounds, steals, speed, quickness, and defensive awareness could use a bump.

I didn't intend for the list to get so big, but there you go. Thanks for your time!

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:41 pm

Thanks for the feedback, noted. Welcome to the boards TRWhiplash, I appreciate the suggestions. No need to apologise for the length, the more detailed the feedback the more useful it is.

I will actually get a chance to use this feedback for the next release as I'm going to have to push it back at most until next Sunday. The only reason I'm doing this is so that I can continue to work on fatigue ratings. I'd rather take that extra time so I can put in the extra work and be satisfied with the release. I apologise to those who are disappointed but I prefer not to rush out the updates before I've made the updates and improvements I'm aiming for in any particular release. On the bright side, you've got a bit of extra time before the next release to send in your suggestions.

by **TRWhiplash** on Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:19 pm

Andrew wrote:Thanks for the feedback, noted. Welcome to the boards TRWhiplash, I appreciate the suggestions. No need to apologise for the length, the more detailed the feedback the more useful it is.

I will actually get a chance to use this feedback for the next release as I'm going to have to push it back at most until next Sunday. The only reason I'm doing this is so that I can continue to work on fatigue ratings. I'd rather take that extra time so I can put in the extra work and be satisfied with the release. I apologise to those who are disappointed but I prefer not to rush out the updates before I've made the updates and improvements I'm aiming for in any particular release. On the bright side, you've got a bit of extra time before the next release to send in your suggestions.

The only other thing I can think of right now is to ask you're going to release some sliders with the new roster update. If not, can you recommend a set posted on the board? There are so many posted that I don't really know where to start.

by **AmarSAcharya** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:50 am

mehmet okur -- 77 three point rating, 107 three pointers made in actual nba season. (at a higher shooting % than joe johnson, ray allen, rafer alston, j.r. smith, vince carter, mike bibby -- who have all made more threes this season).

point of comparison: memo's got a 77 rating and dirk has an 84 rating. dirk has made 57 this season. memo has made 107 threes this season. dirk shoots a higher percentage, but the 3% or whatever it is doesn't make up for having 50 less made threepointers . . . unless the nba live stats get readjusted in 1.04!

by **dayan** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:19 am

Hi Andrew!

Please pay more attention at Luther Head. He playes reliable 27.9 minutes per game averaging 10.8 points per game. Very good numbers for bencher by the way. He has good touch from the perimeter: 2.2 3pointer per game(#12 in the league) with 43.2% from beyond the arc(#8 in the league) speak for itself. Considering that he is only 6-3 and rarely goes inside his 2point fg% 42.6% looks very good. He is also good ball handler and dribbler. He has great potential. I think he will be one of the best combo-guards in the future. His fg, 3pt, off.aware, pass and dribbling ratings should be increased for sure.

Also Shane Battier deserves slightly more attention from you. He's better defender and shooter than he is currently rated. Just look at stats: Battier makes 1.1 steal and 0.8 block per game and has steal-73, def.aware-77. For comparison: Raja Bell makes only 0.5 steal per game and has steal-80, def.aware-90, Bruce Bowen makes 0.9 steal per game and has steal-81 and def.aware-92. It is beyond any doubt that Battier is underrated in comparison with them.
Shane Battier's shooting: he makes 2.0 threes per game(ranks #15 in the league above Q-Rich, Terry, Brayant, Gordon, Crawford and some other great shooters) with good 43.2% from the perimeter(ranks #7 in the league below only Kapono,Nash,Gibson,Barry,Harrington and Korver). His fg% is also good for man who makes 2.0 threes per game - 44.7%. So his fg, 3pt, steal and def.aware could made better.

And look how Denver and Phila play after AI-Miller trade. Nobody would think the Sixers got the better end of that trade, but apparently, they did.Either Iverson is overrated, or Andre Miller is very underrated. :wink:

Take one more look at both of them please.

Hope you will take this into consideration in your 1.04 version.

See you! :wave:

by **Vanny** on Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:28 am

Hello Andrew!
I have some suggetions for you

Andreas Nocioni with 15 points per game and known as shooter and good scorer have offensive aware only 68 .... i think this is absolutly underrating

Take a look on him please.
And btw Baron Davis offensive aware is only 82. He is scoring leader in GS for now and J-Rich have Off. Aw. 88 but B.Diddy only 82

This is bad i think .
Greetz man 8-)

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:08 am

Thanks for the latest suggestions, as always I'll consider them but I can't promise I'll agree with each of them. Please understand if I don't make a certain change it's not without good reason. Anyway, thanks for the feedback, keep it coming. (Y)

TRWhiplash wrote:The only other thing I can think of right now is to ask you're going to release some sliders with the new roster update. If not, can you recommend a set posted on the board? There are so many posted that I don't really know where to start.

Hopefully, at some point. I don't have any specific suggestions of any other sets at this time, sorry.

Grosso wrote:And look how Denver and Phila play after AI-Miller trade. Nobody would think the Sixers got the better end of that trade, but apparently, they did.Either Iverson is overrated, or Andre Miller is very underrated. Take one more look at both of them please.

Sorry, it doesn't work like that. Just as I won't boost players so their overall looks better, I will not decrease or increase their ratings simply because their team is doing better.

by **dayan** on Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:22 pm

Andrew wrote:
Grosso wrote:And look how Denver and Phila play after AI-Miller trade. Nobody would think the Sixers got the better end of that trade, but apparently, they did.Either Iverson is overrated, or Andre Miller is very underrated. Take one more look at both of them please.

Sorry, it doesn't work like that. Just as I won't boost players so their overall looks better, I will not decrease or increase their ratings simply because their team is doing better.

No no, I didn't mean that you should increase/decrease their overall ratings. I just wanted you to take another look at their ratings as there is probably some that could stand to be updated(which maybe will in turn affect the overall rating).
But okay, if you want to see stats and numbers I'll give you some. As you saw I wrote about Andre Miller above. I hope you'll take it into consideration.
Now a couple suggestions about Allen Iverson: he makes 7.1(#10 in the league) assist and 4.36(#1 in the league!) turnover per game this season and has pass 90 and superstar playmaker freestyle. For comparison Andre Miller makes 8.1(#6 in the league) assist and 2.82(#23 in the league) turnover and has pass 84 and only star playmaker freestyle. Taking into account this stats it seems that AI's and Miller's ratings should be quite the contrary.
Also Iverson's fg rating is overrated I think. His 2point fg% is 45.7%. Taking into consideration that he makes 29% of his shots from the inside with 58.6%(http://www.82games.com/0607/06DEN4A.HTM) it seems that his 2point outside shots too far from perfect to make him 3rd best 2point shooter after Allen and Nowitzki in the game. Fg 85 is upper limit for Iverson for sure.
All the statistics I took from NBA.com.
I hope it works like that :wink:

and you'll fix it. :roll:

Greets man!

Edit:
Two more suggestions:
Dikembe Mutombo spending 18.5 minutes on the floor per game, but only because he was sitting in the back of Yao. While Yao were injured Mutombo showed that he can play big minutes and play them well. If you look at his game by game stats(http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dikembe_m ... stats.html) in last months he usally played 20+ minutes per game and there are a lot of games when he played more than 30 minutes. So I really think that his stamina rating can be boosted.
Chuck Hayes spends only his second seson in Rockets(and in the NBA too) but he always becoming real deal before our eyes. In the past he didn't get a lot of playing time but now Van Gundy rely on him more often and as a result his stats became growing. Just look at his recent games(http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dikembe_m ... stats.html). Despite the fact that he is only 6-6 Chuck not only grabs a lot of rebounds from the power forward position playing against higher and tougher opponents but also he makes a lot of steals because of his good stealability and quickness. Yes, he is more quicker than other power forwards in the league. It is undoubtedly his strenght. Because when you only 6-6 and play on power forward(and sometimes on center) the only way to beat your opponent in the rebound to be quicker than him. But currently he has like average PF's speed and quickness(61 and 60). And his steal is very low too(only 12!). Note that he averages 0.8 steal per game - good result for big man, doesn't it? Of course there Big Ben is beyond comparison, but Chuck Hayes isn't bad too. I think his steal, speed, quickness, and defensive awareness could use a boost. In my opinion steal-60, speed and quickness-70 will suit him well.
Many thanks for your time!

by **shox15** on Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:37 am

Hi Andrew again!
Please pay attention on A.Bargnani.
A.Bargnani spends a class season for the beginner and is one of the main applicants for a rank of the best beginner of year! After unpersuasive game in the beginning of a season (as Toronto and Bargnani) it has strongly added and now is a key figure in a command! I think that his ratings of an FG, 3PT and off awarness are strongly underestimated since the Bargnani is a class shooter - and very often hammering 3 pts over hands! (3PT% 37.4) When it with a ball on the perimetr a hall already shouts threeeeeee!!!

and everyone know that now there will be 3 pt bomb!

Fix it please.

by **ru_roll** on Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:58 am

Good evening.

My suggestion :
R. Felton has not a great jump shot, but he has normal shooting stats (FG%=38.7%, 3PM = 1.4, 3P%= 34,1%(35,8% in 2005-2006)) among other point guards. By example, Alston has FG%=36% and FG rating= 71, B. Davis has 3P%=27,9% and 3Prating=73(there are many more examples=). I think near 70-70(like similar point gurads) for Felton would be more rightly.

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:48 am

Grosso wrote:Now a couple suggestions about Allen Iverson: he makes 7.1(#10 in the league) assist and 4.36(#1 in the league!) turnover per game this season and has pass 90 and superstar playmaker freestyle. For comparison Andre Miller makes 8.1(#6 in the league) assist and 2.82(#23 in the league) turnover and has pass 84 and only star playmaker freestyle. Taking into account this stats it seems that AI's and Miller's ratings should be quite the contrary.

I agree that Miller should have Superstar Playmaker FSS as well. I'm not taking it away from Allen Iverson though.

Grosso wrote:Also Iverson's fg rating is overrated I think. His 2point fg% is 45.7%. Taking into consideration that he makes 29% of his shots from the inside with 58.6%(http://www.82games.com/0607/06DEN4A.HTM) it seems that his 2point outside shots too far from perfect to make him 3rd best 2point shooter after Allen and Nowitzki in the game. Fg 85 is upper limit for Iverson for sure.

If the simulation engine was better, that would be fine. As it stands he needs a high field goal rating so that he has a chance at scoring anywhere near his real life average.

shox15 wrote:Hi Andrew again!
Please pay attention on A.Bargnani.
A.Bargnani spends a class season for the beginner and is one of the main applicants for a rank of the best beginner of year! After unpersuasive game in the beginning of a season (as Toronto and Bargnani) it has strongly added and now is a key figure in a command! I think that his ratings of an FG, 3PT and off awarness are strongly underestimated since the Bargnani is a class shooter - and very often hammering 3 pts over hands! (3PT% 37.4) When it with a ball on the perimetr a hall already shouts threeeeeee!!! and everyone know that now there will be 3 pt bomb! Fix it please.

I have already addressed those ratings, I do not feel they need to come up any higher at this time.

Thanks for the latest suggestions, they've been noted.

by **dayan** on Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:37 pm

Andrew wrote:I agree that Miller should have Superstar Playmaker FSS as well. I'm not taking it away from Allen Iverson though.

Yes, I agree that Iverson should have Superstar one because of his amazing passes but considering his lack of assists(7.1 assist per game is good but he could play on partners more often) and a lot of turnovers his pass rating should be decreased I think. He can pass when he want but we all now that he is more scorer than playmaker.

Andrew wrote:If the simulation engine was better, that would be fine. As it stands he needs a high field goal rating so that he has a chance at scoring anywhere near his real life average.

Doesn't primacy rating affect on it? I thought so.

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