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Strange Drafting.

Postby EGarrett on Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:40 am

Just rented the game.

I've been doing dynasty, and I was impressed with the draft. A lot of the higher rated rookies and more useful stats.

Anyway, I had my eye on two shooting guards, both of whom were going to go in the Top 20. I drafted one (at #12), and watched to see which team drafted the other...to my surprise he slipped all the way to me in the second round.

The player I had my eye on in the second round (who was projected 2nd Round) didn't get drafted at all. I signed him as a free agent. He has 93 three-point shooting, 90 speed and decent quickness and ballhandling (in the 60's). He's a 66 OVR.

Anybody else notice weird drafting like this?
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Postby VlaDiv on Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:05 am

definitely. When I was at the end of dynasty, however, only 10 or 11 of these future drafted players were superstars, as opposed to about 90 in 2005.

Another intersting bit -
the last "real" player to retire was lebron james, who at age 44 was still a solid 81 rating after many years at 99. I never saw anybody besides kevin willis make it past 40 last year.
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Postby Abctest123 on Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:09 am

VlaDiv wrote:definitely. When I was at the end of dynasty, however, only 10 or 11 of these future drafted players were superstars, as opposed to about 90 in 2005.

Another intersting bit -
the last "real" player to retire was lebron james, who at age 44 was still a solid 81 rating after many years at 99. I never saw anybody besides kevin willis make it past 40 last year.


how many championships did he win in his career? did he ever become like the next jordan, win 6, and also still be decent until the very end of his career?
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Postby EGarrett on Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:41 am

I've noticed that a lot of the draftees are becoming great. Utah has a guy with 1 year pro who's an 81 OVR.

It's been 3 seasons and our draftees are 77, 76, and 71 OVR. 71 is the guy who we signed that went undrafted.
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Postby Jugs on Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:13 pm

Yeah the draft is whacked but the draft ratings are not bad.... i got a guy who was projected 5th overall at pick 19 and a top 20 dude with pick 39.... strange but eh
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Postby Malfa on Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:29 pm

Yepp..I got a top 10 pick right before the second round lol..
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Postby Matt on Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:56 pm

these things happen though. Some dudes on draft night slip real bad. Like Maciej Lampe, talk was he could go @ #5....he went in the 2nd Rnd to NY.
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Postby Malfa on Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:41 pm

Yes, but it doesn't happen EVERY draft.
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Postby Andrew on Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:58 pm

I kind of prefer it to second round picks/undrafted players being guaranteed busts or nothing more than six extra fouls and maybe a basket or rebound here and there.
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Postby VlaDiv on Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:59 am

drunkmofo123 wrote:
VlaDiv wrote:definitely. When I was at the end of dynasty, however, only 10 or 11 of these future drafted players were superstars, as opposed to about 90 in 2005.

Another intersting bit -
the last "real" player to retire was lebron james, who at age 44 was still a solid 81 rating after many years at 99. I never saw anybody besides kevin willis make it past 40 last year.


how many championships did he win in his career? did he ever become like the next jordan, win 6, and also still be decent until the very end of his career?


Lebron was on the Hornets and teamed with J.R. Smith from the moment he hit his first free agency 07. Bron won 3 MVP awards around his age-30 peak in '14, '15, '16. The team got its rings later on in 20' and '21 with Bron and Smith still very solid and a young "shaq" type named Chuck Saepan who could inside stop and power dunk. When lebron retired in '28, he had actually played 25 years. I did not reload and retry either. He just wouldn't retire until then. He was still very solid rated at 81, and could have been around a couple more years perhaps if he hadn't already played 25.
The other guys who won MVP awards in the future were Dwight Howard and Chris Bosh. Andrew Bogut was a perenial allstar as was shaun livingston, al jefferson and of course, Amare. I had the hawks with marvin williams and josh smith and won 11 rings. Maybe If I had just simmed, Lebron would have got more as they were very competitive.
Not sure if Lebron to the hornets is realistic, but that's what the CPU did. Anyway, it was a fun mostly simmed dynasty.
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Postby Abctest123 on Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:53 am

VlaDiv wrote:
drunkmofo123 wrote:
VlaDiv wrote:definitely. When I was at the end of dynasty, however, only 10 or 11 of these future drafted players were superstars, as opposed to about 90 in 2005.

Another intersting bit -
the last "real" player to retire was lebron james, who at age 44 was still a solid 81 rating after many years at 99. I never saw anybody besides kevin willis make it past 40 last year.


how many championships did he win in his career? did he ever become like the next jordan, win 6, and also still be decent until the very end of his career?


Lebron was on the Hornets and teamed with J.R. Smith from the moment he hit his first free agency 07. Bron won 3 MVP awards around his age-30 peak in '14, '15, '16. The team got its rings later on in 20' and '21 with Bron and Smith still very solid and a young "shaq" type named Chuck Saepan who could inside stop and power dunk. When lebron retired in '28, he had actually played 25 years. I did not reload and retry either. He just wouldn't retire until then. He was still very solid rated at 81, and could have been around a couple more years perhaps if he hadn't already played 25.
The other guys who won MVP awards in the future were Dwight Howard and Chris Bosh. Andrew Bogut was a perenial allstar as was shaun livingston, al jefferson and of course, Amare. I had the hawks with marvin williams and josh smith and won 11 rings. Maybe If I had just simmed, Lebron would have got more as they were very competitive.
Not sure if Lebron to the hornets is realistic, but that's what the CPU did. Anyway, it was a fun mostly simmed dynasty.


woohoo, bosh got mvp! so did lebron start at sf when he was with the hornets since he plays the same position as jr smith?
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Postby Its_asdf on Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:02 am

It's always interesting to sign an undrafted free agent or draft a "steal". It got pretty boring when all of the good rookies would be taken away by the worst teams in the league while I was stuck with players in the low 40s.
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Postby EGarrett on Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:53 am

The game generates a lot better players this year. Plus you can have several scouts and assign them all without exiting the screen. That makes things go SO much faster.

Has anyone else noticed the player growth yet? I had a 7'1", 275 pound Center on Miami. After Shaq retired, I moved him to starter then shockingly watched him became like Shaq part II. The next year he was 294, then 302. And he has 97 dunking.

I can't wait to see some 7'5" guy start out at 312 and get up to 340.

Plus the teams with the best players actually win games this year. Dynasty mode is kicking ass. Has anyone wrote a detailed summary of all the tweaks yet?
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Postby beau_boy04 on Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:51 pm

Does weight have any effect on the gameplay? for instance when backing down using your post player? if not then going from 312 to 340 has no meaning to me.
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Postby EGarrett on Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:20 am

In 2005 it basically determined who won those post backdown battles.

In this one, I haven't actually tested it but it seems to do the same thing.

If it didn't, I wouldn't care about weight either.

BTW, this was my 1000th post.
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Re: Strange Drafting.

Postby Laxation on Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:20 am

EGarrett wrote:The player I had my eye on in the second round (who was projected 2nd Round) didn't get drafted at all. I signed him as a free agent. He has 93 three-point shooting, 90 speed and decent quickness and ballhandling (in the 60's). He's a 66 OVR


was his name R.Ballard or soemthing?
I tried to get him in the free-agent signing :P was over the salary cap though
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Postby EGarrett on Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:28 pm

His name's Beno Rose.

(the game is in rare form coming up with ridiculous names this year. I swear I saw a late 2nd round guy named Rider Pine.)
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