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Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:12 pm
I hardly understood your post, but I'm guessing you want to know how we shoot?
My shot, people have always told me to release it higher because a low release coupled with my short height makes it alot harder to shoot under pressure. Personally I have never found it to be a problem, and I'm still one of the best shooters in my school. The way around having a low release and getting blocked alot is just becoming a quicker shooter.
I also find its not always best to release the shot at the highest point of your jump because unless someone is lunging at you or you have a very good jump, the taller defender will usually still block you. What I do is release it on the way up and as fast as possible without making it a bad shot, this way the defender never has a chance to get their hand up.
Anyway my shot looks pretty much identical to this but my upper body doesn't lean back as far -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZubvPYD8u0Y
Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:36 pm
I know so many people that can has sick handels every thing good but they dont know how to shoot they shoot like with 1 hand. If you see one of those type of players just shoot you will say they are so shit but once they do every thing else its different so what do you guys think does it matter does it look like a shitty or a good player?
I think my brain is leaking out of my ears.
Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:52 pm
I do not have a set shooting style. Go figure.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:08 am
My shot right now is kind of Ray Allen/Anthony Parker.
A couple of years ago, it was almost like Marion's

But it went in a lot so...ehhh
Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:34 am
I don't have any problems having an Allan Houston shooting style, though it took me a while to get that stroke. I started off having a Reggie Miller form before moving onto a Penny Hardaway form; and for a short time I had a Chris Webber form, then finally settled on the "proper" form that ended up looking like Houston's. Go figure.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:47 am
My style is a lot like Michael Redds. I am even a leftie like him, and the only difference is that I recently started releasing before the peak of my jump and alot quicker which has improved my shot.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:29 am
I honestly thought he was talking about guns at first...that's way more interesting to me.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:37 am
Jae wrote:I know so many people that can has sick handels every thing good but they dont know how to shoot they shoot like with 1 hand. If you see one of those type of players just shoot you will say they are so shit but once they do every thing else its different so what do you guys think does it matter does it look like a shitty or a good player?
I think my brain is leaking out of my ears.
I think mine may be too....you shoot with two hands?
I don't think I've ever seen a male who shoots with two hands before.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:07 am
I kinda have a shot form like how AI does in NBA 2k7, kind of fading back with very little elevation and landing on one foot. But that's usually only when I'm taking a shot on the move or I'm pulling up off the dribble. When I'm catching and shooting or wide open I have a set shot for the most part.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:32 am
Apparentely mine looks like Carmelo's. I don't particularly want it to but the only other style I can really do is Reggie Miller's and I'm not going there.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:33 am
My shot apparently looks like a "left handed Milt Palacio" fadaway.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:24 am
I tried to model my shot after Battier's. I think I'm pretty close to it. It took me basically an entire summer to alter my shot to the point where I consider myself an above-average shooter.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:31 pm
Well, I guess I kind of agree with "go with whatever works." Most important thing is practice and repetition...
But I also believe that proper mechanics, proper balance will give you a better shot overall, with more consistency and ability to get it off in different circumstances...
As far as my shot goes, I tried to model off of Kobe Bryant, but also off of J.J. Redick. Whether I was successful, well... that's up to someone other than me to decide...
I usually have my right foot half-step ahead of my left and my right elbow locked in over my right knee. That gives me consistent and smooth motion from chamber to release, and as long as my feet are set, I don't really even have to focus on the rim... and I always try to get full extension...
I've had great deal more success with that stroke than my previous one (which was nonexistent). But really, I think a lot of that has to do with practice--I would shoot for 300, 500 when I was really hitting, makes per session...
Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:39 pm
I struggle with keeping my elbows tucked in and straight when i shoot, so I recently started trying to shoot with the ball slightly towards my right. For some reason, I can't get my hand to go all the way back and make it parallel with my arm when my are bent at a 90 or so, they'd have to be bent at around a 45 angle to have that happen. Another reason for this may be for the fact I can't seem to get much power in my shot when I'm using "proper" technique. Previously, my shot looked like a bad imitation of Yao's jumpshot. I would shoot with the ball aligned in the middle. I don't usually follow through either, it would just leave my hand, and that be the end of it, I wouldn't extend my arm all the way (it'd start at say a 45 degree angle, and finish with me flicking my wrist, and right arm at about a 90 degree angle), sorta like Iverson's chuck at the net kinda shot (but still looks more like Yao's, just the fact that its a quick throw-up at the net).
I'd be amazed if anyone understood that by the way

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To summarize, it looks like a quick release, poor imitation of Yao's shot, but with no follow through. Doesn't look all that ugly, but it aint working well. Anyone wanna gimme shooting tips?
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Abctest123 on Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:18 pm
It's physically easier and more sensible to align the ball to your right hand (shooting hand) if you want to keep your elbow tucked in. In fact, you can even push your right side towards the basket more--that way, you line up to the basket, get your elbows tucked in, even if not every thing's ninety-ninety-ninety.
I think the power problem has more to do with either your legs (where most of your power should come from) or your mental state. Consider that a 10-12 year old child can shoot from from 3-range (if a bit forced), then you should easily be able to reach. I suggest over-practicing, that is, practicing from farther away until you can move in and get comfortable.
Also, if you move the ball from the chamber (where you catch and hold the ball as you get ready to shoot) to the release point faster, then you get more power (i.e. range).
Ideally, you shouldn't need much power in your arms because more power means less control. So get deep and really bend your knees and explode up and just let your arms shoot.
By the way: this whole "shoot at the top of your jump" is 1. misguided and 2. overrated...
What they actually mean is to release at the peak of your jump, which means you should already be in your shooting motion as your feet leave the ground. Some people start to shoot after they jump and they release on the way down--so what happens? Less power, more power in the arms so less accurate, and more likely to get blocked.
Some coaches even teach that you should release just as you come off the floor to transfer all the power from your legs directly into your shot. Whatever the case, the most important thing is you release as high as you can and as quick as you can.
*Food for thought: quicker release means you're less likely to get blocked. However, the longer the ball maintains contact with your fingers, more control you have. (So, compare a runner--which leaves the hand quickly and thus less likely to get blocked--to a regular lay up or a finger roll, both of which are far more accurate, but more likely to get blocked).
So, it's all about finding a balance and what works for you. And of course, practice practice practice...
Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:40 am
Stephon Marbury here, full elevation (if you can relate that with a jumper) and a high release.
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